Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #45

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  • #361
RBBM
Well, first post here. I’ve followed this case from the beginning and Suzanne’s case is what led me to Websleuths. I feel like I know some of you by now
Anyhow, perhaps BM was friending only male friends on FB because he wanted it to appear that SM had gone back to Indiana to meet someone. Who? Doesn’t matter. If LE wastes time chasing that, it buys time for BM. Maybe someone also arranged that FB checkin on SM’s page in Alexandria, IN on May 17th. Just one more in a line of tales to draw attention away from the truth of her disappearance. Who knows how many anonymous “tips” LE has had to field that were meant to distract and waste time.

I hope I quoted this properly. It’s all IMO. I almost gave up on the case after the craziness of the search by AM, our awesome fellow WSers and others. But I’d like to see it through to some closure. SM reminds me of my own Mom. I think I would have liked to meet her.

JMO

Dear @EucalyptusBloom,

I join everyone in welcoming you to Websleuths!

Your post is very insightful as well as deeply compassionate. Thank you.
 
  • #362
Within the DWs circle of friends (all close in age to BM), the females she knows had her show up as PYMK or friend suggestion (not friend request). She knows of two males (one was a friend of BM, one was a friend of AM) who received actual friend requests.

It's possible that men may have seen her in the PYMK or friend suggestions, but the DW isn't aware of any. It's possible that some women got actual friend requests, but the DW isn't aware of any. There were about six females that she's aware of in the PYMK/friend suggestion category, and two males that she knows of directly (and a few more that she was aware of indirectly and unable to verify) that got friend requests.

Hope that helps. MOO.
very helpful Hoosier!

2 specific friend requests from SM to older men from her childhood/school days.
Reading my own things into this. Speculating......

Someone was jealous of likely fleeting crushes or romances of a young beautiful Suzanne.
Utilizing this delusion of maybe carrying a torch.....leaving a light on??? as his original what happened to SM. She ran off with a childhood sweetheart.
Somewhere through the night he abandoned this idea.

food for thought for sure

moo
 
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If the public needs to know something in order to keep themselves safe, then I’m obviously for that.

But if you’re out there answering media questions, and giving investigative information away, that doesn’t only inform the public.

It informs the killer as well.

Has AM given ‘investigative information’ away?
 
  • #365
sorry for the ghost reply.

I give up, what does RBBM mean? I think I have figured out all of the “my opinion only” shorthand, but this has me stumped. And I am sure I is embarrassingly simple....
 
  • #366
very helpful Hoosier!

2 specific friend requests from SM to older men from her childhood/school days.
Reading my own things into this. Speculating......

Someone was jealous of likely fleeting crushes or romances of a young beautiful Suzanne.
Utilizing this delusion of maybe carrying a torch.....leaving a light on??? as his original what happened to SM. She ran off with a childhood sweetheart.
Somewhere through the night he abandoned this idea.

food for thought for sure

moo

Contemporaries of AM would not be contemporaries of SM from her school days. There is a considerable age difference between AM and his "little sister", resulting in a huge gap in school years. IMO
 
  • #367
I want killers arrested. That’s way more important than compromising an investigation by saying “this is a homicide investigation.”

That has a tendency to shut people up, and unnecessarily complicates things.

You want a media circus? Because that’s how you get a media circus.
No more rings added to this circus plz
 
  • #368
sorry for the ghost reply.

I give up, what does RBBM mean? I think I have figured out all of the “my opinion only” shorthand, but this has me stumped. And I am sure I is embarrassingly simple....

You are doing fine Sally, that is a tough one. Respectfully Bolded By Me
I leave this (below) in my watched threads...I have been waiting years for someone to add/update r/t. Does is mean in reference to?

Websleuths Lingo
 
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  • #369
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
Within the DWs circle of friends (all close in age to BM), the females she knows had her show up as PYMK or friend suggestion (not friend request). She knows of two males (one was a friend of BM, one was a friend of AM) who received actual friend requests.

It's possible that men may have seen her in the PYMK or friend suggestions, but the DW isn't aware of any. It's possible that some women got actual friend requests, but the DW isn't aware of any. There were about six females that she's aware of in the PYMK/friend suggestion category, and two males that she knows of directly (and a few more that she was aware of indirectly and unable to verify) that got friend requests.

Hope that helps. MOO.


I have a confession to make and another possible explanation...
When I first joined Websleuths I was checking out FB profiles of some friends of my “suspect” and accidentally sent a few of them a friend requests. I was petrified after two responded! I then closed down my FB account for months. If you aren’t FB savvy it could easily happen.
 
  • #370
It is what they do. That doesn't make it right. I'd categorize along the lines of two wrongs not making a right.

And I'll say again, it appears to be a stretch to say that the case would be compromised by simply being honest about the fact that its not a missing persons investigation.

IMO
I understand your frustration. However, this is a missing person investigation. LE is trying to find out what happened to her.
 
  • #371
sorry for the ghost reply.

I give up, what does RBBM mean? I think I have figured out all of the “my opinion only” shorthand, but this has me stumped. And I am sure I is embarrassingly simple....
RBBM = Respectfully bolded by me.

sorry, Murphy1950 already answered, thanks!
 
  • #372
Many threads ago, when I was pursuing random abductor, I considered a stalker type abduction, this was a very interesting theory, but I considered stalker was in an old rv(invisible) observing the Ms house. It had a lot of possibilities from stalker POV.
I don’t quite see the necessity of this from BMs angle, there are just so many other ways of disappearing SM. IMO

LE at this point should have every person in that RV area identified and vetted. IMO

I’m not ready to go back to my stranger passing thru, opportunist predator, yet.

I could totally see that happening, tho. Drifter type predator passing thru off the radar...

IMO, our predators
are much closer to SM, her whole family was targeted.
If the whole family was targeted, then why is BM still alive, and why didn't the perpetrator choose a time when the daughters were home and not out of state on a camping trip? Because IMO, for the whole family to be "targeted," wouldn't the perp want to be certain that everyone was there at home at that particular time?? I'm not understanding.....
 
  • #373
It is what they do. That doesn't make it right. I'd categorize along the lines of two wrongs not making a right.

And I'll say again, it appears to be a stretch to say that the case would be compromised by simply being honest about the fact that its not a missing persons investigation.

IMO

BBM:

They were honest about it. Right out of the gate.

It's not their fault that people weren't listening carefully.

The CCSO characterized it as a criminal investigation back in May.

Specifically, Sheriff Spezze labelled it a criminal investigation:

https://nypost.com/2020/05/14/reward-for-missing-colorado-woman-suzanne-morphew-soars-to-200k/

SABBM:

Spezze declined to comment when reached Wednesday by The Post on whether Morphew’s husband is cooperating with authorities or if investigators suspect foul play in the case.

“This is an open criminal investigation,” Spezze said.
___________________________


And, too, there's this:

//heartoftherockiesradio.com/chaffee-sheriff-addresses-morphew-case/ Suzanne or determining the circumstances behind her disappearance."

SABBM:

Our sole focus is either finding Suzanne or determining the circumstances behind her disappearance and the only way to do this is to keep the information gathered as the result of this investigation under seal.

Translation: "We are focused on either finding Suzanne's body or in otherwise gathering enough evidence to bring the perpetrator to justice."

When LE says their focus is on finding Suzanne or determining the circumstances behind her disappearance, that is not an attempt to be disingenuous with the public.

They think she's the victim of foul play, and their focus is on either finding her body or, if that doesn't happen, gathering enough evidence to support a no-body prosecution.

LE really can't say it any more plainly short of naming a suspect.

JMO.
 
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:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:


I have a confession to make and another possible explanation...
When I first joined Websleuths I was checking out FB profiles of some friends of my “suspect” and accidentally sent a few of them a friend requests. I was petrified after two responded! I then closed down my FB account for months. If you aren’t FB savvy it could easily happen.

I think many of us have made errant FB friend requests. The PYMK function on FB tosses up suggestions and if you hover a little too close, boom, you’ve just friend requested. However, given the circumstances of that weekend, it isn’t hard to assume that this was not Suzanne scrolling through her brother’s guy friends. There are other more likely possibilities involving algorithms and syncing new contacts, or even different FB searches that generated the requests.
 
  • #375
Theory, MOO, of how Saturday/Sunday may have gone down. It is a far fetched theory but I put it together trying to use the info we have as of now.

Presuppositions:

  1. MG has a crush on BM which he has been nurturing because it strokes his ego. She will do almost anything for him.
  2. SM is upset at BM. It is MD weekend, her daughters are away, and BM has worked Friday night, Saturday, and will be working on Sunday.

Saturday morning BM picks up MG for work at the Salida site. He’s left SM home, angry at him.

He gets a hold of JP and asks if he can work on Sunday.

To get SM off his back BM decides to go home and play nice with her for a couple of hours. Meanwhile, she is at home texting her bff about the upcoming wedding and telling her how ticked off she is at BM.


BM goes home, tries to placate her, takes her to lunch in town. When they get home BM figures he deserves a little hanky panky for his trouble. Instead, SM get right back on the phone/FB with her bestie. He is enraged, maybe slaps the phone out of her hand, she pushes back. He gives her a shove and she falls hitting her head against the stone fireplace.

He is now in panic cover up mode.

He begins cleaning up.

Maybe he drags the body out to the garage (or to the spot where the antlers with the skin attached were later observed leaning against the house). He may have put the body in a cooler or coolers using some of his tools to dismember her.

He realizes SM was in the middle of a convo when he slapped the phone out of her hands. Her phone is broken. He impersonates SM on her FB using his phone and tries to close out the conversation. It sounds strange to SM’s bff. He also sends out some friend requests so it will seem like SM is still alive and well.

He needs to get rid of the body.

Maybe he does something using his bobcat.

He then brings the bobcat to the Salida site around 11:30 pm and swaps out his bucket or other attachment with the one in Salida so if LE checks his, there will be no evidence on it.

He goes home to Puma Path to finish cleaning up.

He needs to be out of town the following day when SM is reported missing. He stays up most of the night planning out his strategy. He decides to use MG as an integral part of his alibi. He drives to her house at 4:00 am but then thinks better of it and texts her instead to arrange for the work crew in Broomfield.

He then drives to Broomfield himself possibly discarding evidence along the way.

He is supposed to bring the bobcat with him to complete the job but can’t because of the swapped attachment.

He checks into the HIE, cleans his tools, and collapses for a few hours on the bed.

Later in the day he puts the bike story in motion.

He leaves Broomfield before the work crew shows up.

JUST A THEORY. MOO
 
  • #376
I think many of us have made errant FB friend requests. The PYMK function on FB tosses up suggestions and if you hover a little too close, boom, you’ve just friend requested. However, given the circumstances of that weekend, it isn’t hard to assume that this was not Suzanne scrolling through her brother’s guy friends. There are other more likely possibilities involving algorithms and syncing new contacts, or even different FB searches that generated the requests.

I agree it wasn’t Susanne... I am guessing that BM left social media up to others in his family and the friend requests were accidents
 
  • #377
If the whole family was targeted, then why is BM still alive, and why didn't the perpetrator choose a time when the daughters were home and not out of state on a camping trip? Because IMO, for the whole family to be "targeted," wouldn't the perp want to be certain that everyone was there at home at that particular time?? I'm not understanding.....
Add in the the odds/likelihood that they are not home ...during a lockdown/quarantine and Mothers Day to boot. Someone needs to hone their skills.
 
  • #378
Theory, MOO, of how Saturday/Sunday may have gone down. It is a far fetched theory but I put it together trying to use the info we have as of now.

Presuppositions:

  1. MG has a crush on BM which he has been nurturing because it strokes his ego. She will do almost anything for him.
  2. SM is upset at BM. It is MD weekend, her daughters are away, and BM has worked Friday night, Saturday, and will be working on Sunday.

Saturday morning BM picks up MG for work at the Salida site. He’s left SM home, angry at him.

He gets a hold of JP and asks if he can work on Sunday.

To get SM off his back BM decides to go home and play nice with her for a couple of hours. Meanwhile, she is at home texting her bff about the upcoming wedding and telling her how ticked off she is at BM.


BM goes home, tries to placate her, takes her to lunch in town. When they get home BM figures he deserves a little hanky panky for his trouble. Instead, SM get right back on the phone/FB with her bestie. He is enraged, maybe slaps the phone out of her hand, she pushes back. He gives her a shove and she falls hitting her head against the stone fireplace.

He is now in panic cover up mode.

He begins cleaning up.

Maybe he drags the body out to the garage (or to the spot where the antlers with the skin attached were later observed leaning against the house). He may have put the body in a cooler or coolers using some of his tools to dismember her.

He realizes SM was in the middle of a convo when he slapped the phone out of her hands. Her phone is broken. He impersonates SM on her FB using his phone and tries to close out the conversation. It sounds strange to SM’s bff. He also sends out some friend requests so it will seem like SM is still alive and well.

He needs to get rid of the body.

Maybe he does something using his bobcat.

He then brings the bobcat to the Salida site around 11:30 pm and swaps out his bucket or other attachment with the one in Salida so if LE checks his, there will be no evidence on it.

He goes home to Puma Path to finish cleaning up.

He needs to be out of town the following day when SM is reported missing. He stays up most of the night planning out his strategy. He decides to use MG as an integral part of his alibi. He drives to her house at 4:00 am but then thinks better of it and texts her instead to arrange for the work crew in Broomfield.

He then drives to Broomfield himself possibly discarding evidence along the way.

He is supposed to bring the bobcat with him to complete the job but can’t because of the swapped attachment.

He checks into the HIE, cleans his tools, and collapses for a few hours on the bed.

Later in the day he puts the bike story in motion.

He leaves Broomfield before the work crew shows up.

JUST A THEORY. MOO
Good theory. With what we think we know, it works.
Moo
 
  • #379
If you notice, the recommendations given out when members of the public ask are always the things someone's mom would advise: lock doors and windows of home and cars, don't go out into remote areas alone or without telling someone where you're going, what time, and what time you expect to be back. Take your cell phone, wear clean underwear (ok that's a bonus nag from a mom), I mean there are many parents and grandparents here. Think of all the things you'd tell your kids to do. LE says the same things, along with, if you need help or believe you're in danger, call 911. If you see something, say something. If you have information related to this case call the tip line.

IMO
With all due respect @Madeleine74, as a mom of 3 boys, and 6 grandsons, telling them to wear clean underwear is not a “bogus nag”. :p:D:)
 
  • #380
This is an appalling sentiment. Why don't we just throw anyone in court and sue them without evidence? I hope the Moorman family and the CO courts have more integrity. IMO
Honestly no one's gettin' nuttin if all the owned items are safely hidden under that non profit. My thoughts would be on LEs side and I was hoping illegal activity in the finance department would allow the government to confiscate assets with a no body case/conviction. I really am talking in an OJ scenario, not out of spite. moo
 
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