Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #46

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  • #921
House Donated?

I'm days behind, trying to catch up including this 53 min podcast.
The Puma Path house?
Can someone pls give an approx timestamp for stmt in above post? TiA.

ETA: Profiling Evil: `
Transferred to foundation maybe a better word than donated, sorry
 
  • #922
I agree. I posted a few pages back . Denver Hitman, ex-con meeting Sat.-possible middleman for payoff, phony motel for phony job uses bleach for diversion- casts eyes on usual suspect on purpose- he's clean-deed done by Denver pro- but.....most believe the "tale" and his actions dictate guilt...can't exclude this theory ...I beg someone to disprove a possible hitman...IMO Motown
Everything is too chaotic. Leaving at 4 or 5 am, the bicycle, chlorine. He would have checked into the hotel on Saturday if he had a planned hit man. Plus his kids were coming home on Sunday.
 
  • #923
Title Ins for PP property?
@oviedo
IIRC, IN gdnship statutes require Gdn/BM to file an inventory/accounting of prop's, accts, assets, within 60 days (or 90?) of apptmt. If BM has not filed that yet, should be filed soon.

Does anyone know whether IN court order contains a list of the various Gdnship properties (which presumably would include or be derived from the Gdn's ct-filed inventory/accounting -- say, for ex, PP home in CO., to which the G'dnship applies, and is therefore subject to BM's authority to act, sell, etc.

Would title ins co. require that before 1. commitment to issue title policy, or 2. actually issuing title ins policy itself?
Or perhaps list (in Schedule B, IIRC) in Exclusions, SM's ownership interest in PP?


Still a few days behind on this thread, sorry if already covered.

The title company wants evidence that one person is authorized to act on behalf of another. That will give the closing agent the basis to prepare the appropriate deed to extinguish the absent person's interest in the property. The title company will issue a preliminary title report but it will have exceptions on Schedule B that address the missing/incapacitated person's interest. Exceptions need to be cleared (court order/death certificate in this case) prior to closing the transaction and before a policy of title insurance is issued.

MOO
 
  • #924
I agree. I posted a few pages back . Denver Hitman, ex-con meeting Sat.-possible middleman for payoff, phony motel for phony job uses bleach for diversion- casts eyes on usual suspect on purpose- he's clean-deed done by Denver pro- but.....most believe the "tale" and his actions dictate guilt...can't exclude this theory ...I beg someone to disprove a possible hitman...IMO Motown

IMO, if this is a paid hit, organized by BM, someone needs to go back to Hitmen School For Dummies.

Where does one even find these professional people? Or you trust someone who was in jail & think they are a mastermind to pull this off, then trust them after the fact? If it’s the latter, when can this person start using the money they got? They better be careful with that one with an active LE investigation.

BM should not appear to be on the defensive, that weekend, especially on Sunday, figuring out what to do next if this was a paid hit. That’s just one example. This just seemed like poor, last minute planning.

I think, if you want the job done, you do it yourself, then convince yourself to be favored by God afterward.

IMO
 
  • #925
I agree. I posted a few pages back . Denver Hitman, ex-con meeting Sat.-possible middleman for payoff, phony motel for phony job uses bleach for diversion- casts eyes on usual suspect on purpose- he's clean-deed done by Denver pro- but.....most believe the "tale" and his actions dictate guilt...can't exclude this theory ...I beg someone to disprove a possible hitman...IMO Motown
MOO If a plan it is not pro.
Having BM be last person to see her voids the benefit to BM of using a proxy.
 
  • #926
IMO, if this is a paid hit, organized by BM, someone needs to go back to Hitmen School For Dummies.

hahahahaha.

Common sense. This was no hit.

Mafia dramas notwithstanding, the vast majority of intimate partner crimes are not done by others. Something like strangulation or asphyxiation are up close and personal. A "paid hitman" doesn't care about the body being left where it fell. They have no need to stage a scene, clean up someone's house, take items and plant them elsewhere. A hitman isn't going to create some convoluted missing person case. They do a violent act in as little time as they can, and they get the heck out and as far away as quickly as they can.

Besides, you think a husband who's into $$$$$ and getting as much as he can for himself is going to part with thousands?

IMO
 
  • #927
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I was looking over the above photos from when SM and BM purchased the PP property. I am going by memory, so don't hesitate to correct me if I am wrong, the two photos of the kitchen originally posted with the current listing, were a shot of the dishwasher and the edge of the fridge and the desk area.

I think whatever happened to Suzanne happened in between the island and the sink. There aren't any photos of the kitchen in the current listing because there are cupboard doors missing, maybe some granite and definitely floor tiles. The clean up contaminated the laundry room and the back hallway to the garage and Suzanne and the rest of the clean up materials left the house via the garage.

MOO
 
  • #928
I agree. I posted a few pages back . Denver Hitman, ex-con meeting Sat.-possible middleman for payoff, phony motel for phony job uses bleach for diversion- casts eyes on usual suspect on purpose- he's clean-deed done by Denver pro- but.....most believe the "tale" and his actions dictate guilt...can't exclude this theory ...I beg someone to disprove a possible hitman...IMO Motown
I think this is highly unlikely due to the fact the whole point of hiring a hitman is to have a rock solid alibi - and everything about BMs alibi screams panic. MOO.
 
  • #929
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I was looking over the above photos from when SM and BM purchased the PP property. I am going by memory, so don't hesitate to correct me if I am wrong, the two photos of the kitchen originally posted with the current listing, were a shot of the dishwasher and the edge of the fridge and the desk area.

I think whatever happened to Suzanne happened in between the island and the sink. There aren't any photos of the kitchen in the current listing because there are cupboard doors missing, maybe some granite and definitely floor tiles. The clean up contaminated the laundry room and the back hallway to the garage and Suzanne and the rest of the clean up materials left the house via the garage.

MOO

Yes, it seems those photos were omitted for a reason. Not a stretch to guess why.

Assuming LE disturbed that area during the execution of a search warrant, I'd love to know how that sounded during questioning.

Just how much can you blame on mountain lions and meth heads?

JMO
 
  • #930
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I was looking over the above photos from when SM and BM purchased the PP property. I am going by memory, so don't hesitate to correct me if I am wrong, the two photos of the kitchen originally posted with the current listing, were a shot of the dishwasher and the edge of the fridge and the desk area.

I think whatever happened to Suzanne happened in between the island and the sink. There aren't any photos of the kitchen in the current listing because there are cupboard doors missing, maybe some granite and definitely floor tiles. The clean up contaminated the laundry room and the back hallway to the garage and Suzanne and the rest of the clean up materials left the house via the garage.

MOO


I thought it looked a little bit strange/stained (?) under the hot tub. IMO, that hot tub is the biggest connection to the smell of chlorine in the house and the hotel room.
 

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  • #931
when is an arrest going to be made?! i know LE has to do it’s due diligence, but how much more could they be waiting on, other than a body? Is it a general consensus that forensic evidence would be processed by now? Maybe the latest “evidence” found during AM’s search last month is still being processed.. ?
I wonder if they’re waiting for another search party to conclude..
Once it snows heavily, it’s over until spring...
:(:(:(
 
  • #932
when is an arrest going to be made?! ...
:(:(:(
Unfortunately, there won't be an arrest until the DA feels that they can get a conviction.

Without the witness testimony in the Patrick Frazee case, I'm not sure that he would have been arrested. IMO, that's why Krystal Kenney was given such a sweetheart deal.

JMO.
 
  • #933
Unfortunately, there won't be an arrest until the DA feels that they can get a conviction.
i know :( but i guess my point is how much more evidence does the DA need?! it is so frustrating! :eek:
 
  • #934
Besides the power line right-of-way, I'm also bugged by where the victim's remains could be, I wonder if we are over thinking this and she's closer than originally thought. It's hard to watch a remote site for LE activity. To effectively dispose of one or more coolers, you would need a backhoe attachment for the Bobcat. Plus you would end up with a mound of dirt for each hole that would need to be spread out. That's about an hour or two if you count attachment changeover from the backhoe to the bucket, as well as loading and unloading the Bobcat, unless she's in the nearby wooded areas.
 
  • #935
i know :( but i guess my point is how much more evidence does the DA need?! it is so frustrating! :eek:
You may not be aware of this, but there's an election coming up in CO and the DA that serves Chaffee County is one of the positions the citizens will be voting on. The current DA has been temporary, though that temporary DA is also running for the slot. Until the election concludes and the winning candidate is determined, nothing is going to happen. And, if there's a brand new DA, that person will get sworn in January 2021.

Following true crime cases is a test of one's ability to deal with the reality that it can take a long time even to get to an arrest. Long time can be several months, a year, or years, in some cases.

IMO
 
  • #936
i know :( but i guess my point is how much more evidence does the DA need?! it is so frustrating! :eek:
MOO Enough evidence to rule out alternatives explanations.
MOO taking the truck to Indiana:
Possibly SM killed as early as 5pm in Salida after a sandwich, hidden there and ultimatedly taken on the trip to Indiana to be disposed of in a more competent iteration of Gannon Stauch scenario.
 
  • #937
Besides the power line right-of-way, I'm also bugged by where the victim's remains could be, I wonder if we are over thinking this and she's closer than originally thought. It's hard to watch a remote site for LE activity. To effectively dispose of one or more coolers, you would need a backhoe attachment for the Bobcat. Plus you would end up with a mound of dirt for each hole that would need to be spread out. That's about an hour or two if you count attachment changeover from the backhoe to the bucket, as well as loading and unloading the Bobcat, unless she's in the nearby wooded areas.

I agree. I strongly believe he would not have risked leaving the grounds in any vehicle. Not out the driveway, anyway. Does anyone know if there is an alternative road or trail to leave the property? During the search, several people mentioned a back road to Denver. Does this road connect to the Morphew's? Otherwise, she's close. Who's owns the property (properties) surrounding the Puma Path home? Would it belong to a good friend of BM's?

JMO.
 
  • #938
I agree. I strongly believe he would not have risked leaving the grounds in any vehicle. Not out the driveway, anyway. Does anyone know if there is an alternative road or trail to leave the property? During the search, several people mentioned a back road to Denver. Does this road connect to the Morphew's? Otherwise, she's close. Who's owns the property (properties) surrounding the Puma Path home? Would it belong to a good friend of BM's?

JMO.
Except MOO, its just an assumption she made it back to PP on 5/9.
MOO an assumption naturally made and fortified by BM saying he left her there asleep at 5am 5/10.
 
  • #939
i know :( but i guess my point is how much more evidence does the DA need?! it is so frustrating! :eek:

As unfortunately Suzanne is not going anywhere, there is no hurry, however unfair that seems to feel.
LE is working hard behind the scenes and actually, it’s worth to wait longer, as in the meantime Suzanne could be found which would make the case stronger, could provide extra evidence too, which in turn would help secure a conviction.
BM keeps digging a hole underneath his feet every time he opens his mouth and every time he decides to make some move to put his hands on more money. Although motive is not necessary to convict, BM keeps to show what the motive could be. This is good for the case.

IMO
 
  • #940
IMO, if this is a paid hit, organized by BM, someone needs to go back to Hitmen School For Dummies.

Where does one even find these professional people? Or you trust someone who was in jail & think they are a mastermind to pull this off, then trust them after the fact? If it’s the latter, when can this person start using the money they got? They better be careful with that one with an active LE investigation.

BM should not appear to be on the defensive, that weekend, especially on Sunday, figuring out what to do next if this was a paid hit. That’s just one example. This just seemed like poor, last minute planning.

I think, if you want the job done, you do it yourself, then convince yourself to be favored by God afterward.

IMO
bbm
Ita.
In addition, hoping that (paraphrased by me), "...if even one person was saved by God from this, Suzanne would be o.k. with her own death (aka murder)..."
Imo.
 
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