CO - Tim Watkins, 61, shot to death, Mount Herman, 14 Sept 2017 #1

[sumzero]

He does, I would have thought that the most serious one but it was reduced to a class A Misdemeanor. Then there is a FTA warrant but it is not a felony!

None of the IN warrants may be extraditable. At least, I’ve found nothing to indicate otherwise. :-\

 

[foxbluff]

What he's been charged and convicted for to date certainly doesn't suggest cunning or manipulative imo.

That's true enough, however, he seems awfully good at avoiding prison. That imo comes under cunning and manipulation.

Plus, imo, for every crime LE has charged him with over the years, he's gotten away with several others that LE never knew about.

 

[Shiressleuth]

I guess we will now be hearing demands for answers from CO to find TW's killer. Everyone there has been quietly assuming additional charges were coming for DN.

We stil don't know that they're not do we? They took all their stuff for testing so that's still in process or they have the results and they were negative. Media should start asking questions. All these sealed documents are very convenient for LE - they don't have to answer questions.

 

[sumzero]

Understood but there are 100's if not 1000's of other POI. I'm trying to remember how his name made it to MSM.

moo

One tip was made to the El Paso Co sheriff:

http://www.fox21news.com/news/local...-aware-of-mt-herman-menacing-arrest/866339562

I’ve seen nothing about 150 tips.

 

[Jax49]

None of the IN warrants may be extraditable. At least, I’ve found nothing to indicate otherwise. :-\

Someone mentioned a F4 earlier, but all I'm finding is the F6.

moo

 

[Shiressleuth]

None of the IN warrants may be extraditable. At least, I’ve found nothing to indicate otherwise. :-\

Well if that's so he's back on the streets.

 

[sumzero]

Someone mentioned a F4 earlier, but all I'm finding is the F6.

moo

Me, too. It’s always good practice to double check. (And that goes for my own claims, too. )

 

[Shiressleuth]

One tip was made to the El Paso Co sheriff:

http://www.fox21news.com/news/local...-aware-of-mt-herman-menacing-arrest/866339562

I’ve seen nothing about 150 tips.

I posted the link up thread already. I'll bump it if I can find it.

 

[sumzero]

The release of the sketch produced hundreds of tips in general:

http://www.koaa.com/story/36486870/...do-to-question-man-about-murders-of-two-girls

...not hundreds of tips about DN.

Of note: The article mentions multiple gunshot wounds to TW.

 

[Deleted member 189081]

Guys I really think if DN had anything to do with TW murder LE wouldn't risk letting him out from behind bars. I am really concerned upset for TW and his family as I really think they deserve answers. Alongside the community don't know as I said in a previous post if they have a killer in their midst The only thing I can think of for not asking for help is that they already have their suspect and dotting I's crossing T's before pouncing. It is all so very sad

 

[Shiressleuth]

http://www.koaa.com/story/36415229/...e-than-150-tips-related-to-mt-herman-homicide

This link dated before DN was arrested, states they received 150 tips at that time. If anyone sees requests for tips later than this that haven't already been posted, please link if you can

:bump:

Here's the link I posted yesterday re the 150 tips. A couple of posters have queried this fact today.

 

[sumzero]

Guys I really think if DN had anything to do with TW murder LE wouldn't risk letting him out from behind bars. I am really concerned upset for TW and his family as I really think they deserve answers. Alongside the community don't know as I said in a previous post if they have a killer in their midst The only thing I can think of for not asking for help is that they already have their suspect and dotting I's crossing T's before pouncing. It is all so very sad

I hear you. I wonder what TW’s family could do, if anything, to raise awareness. As for a murderer being on the loose, this is something we all live with, since one-third of all murders go unsolved.

 

[Shiressleuth]

He does, I would have thought that the most serious one but it was reduced to a class A Misdemeanor. Then there is a FTA warrant but it is not a felony!

There are also driving and drug paraphernalia charges that he FTA for in Greenwood - this was why they were originally looking for him.

 

[Deleted member 189081]

I hear you. I wonder what TW’s family could do, if anything, to raise awareness. As for a murderer being on the loose, this is something we all live with, since one-third of all murders go unsolved.

Well I suppose that is up to the family they may be quite comfortable with the way things are progressing behind the scenes and the general public don't need to know anything just yet. They will know how to raise awareness if they want or need to IMPO

 

[MistyWaters]

That's true enough, however, he seems awfully good at avoiding prison. That imo comes under cunning and manipulation.

Plus, imo, for every crime LE has charged him with over the years, he's gotten away with several others that LE never knew about.

Okay, we'll have to agree to disagree. My definition of cunning and manipulative is committing crimes for personal gain or benefit and then avoiding charges. Most of his recent charges he's been convicted of fall into what I would define as self-serving stupidity, often common to people with drug and alcohol dependency which may or may not be responsible for his lack of stability. Being homeless with a criminal record imo is hitting rock bottom. Very hard to work ones way up, even if there's a genuine desire.

2016

April: Nations was arrested in Greenwood for driving on a suspended license. Court documents show police also found what appeared to be marijuana inside his vehicle. Again, he skipped town.
August: Nations was arrested again for driving on a suspended license in Hendricks County.
November: Nations was charged with possession of marijuana.

 

[Jax49]

One tip was made to the El Paso Co sheriff:

http://www.fox21news.com/news/local...-aware-of-mt-herman-menacing-arrest/866339562

I’ve seen nothing about 150 tips.

The way I understand it there were 150 tips about TW's murder, not about DN.

 

[MistyWaters]

The way I understand it there were 150 tips about TW's murder, not about DN.

That's how I read it, 150 tips about the murder of TW, not on DN.

As for the connection between DN and the Delphi murders, after Colorado media reported the possible connection, ISP released this statement ---

"Indiana State Police released the following statement on the investigation:
"We are aware of the arrest of the person in Colorado and are investigating to see if he could be a suspect in the Delphi double murder investigation. Please keep in mind the Indiana State Police has received more than a thousand photos of persons alleged to be similar in appearance to the composite sketch of the Delphi person of interest. Each and everyone of these tips are investigated for any potential connection to our case. We will give the same attention to the person arrested in Colorado, but right now there is nothing that definitively connects this person to our investigation. If that should change - with this tip, or any other tip - rest assured we would be sharing such news with all media sources."
http://abc7chicago.com/police-suspe...y-connected-to-delphi-double-murders/2462208/

 

[minazoe]

What he's been charged and convicted for to date certainly doesn't suggest cunning or manipulative imo.

Superficial charm and good intelligence
Absence of delusions and other signs of irrational thinking
Absence of nervousness or neurotic manifestations
Unreliability
Untruthfulness and insincerity
Lack of remorse and shame
Inadequately motivated antisocial behavior
Poor judgment and failure to learn by experience
Pathologic egocentricity and incapacity for love
General poverty in major affective reactions
Specific loss of insight
Unresponsiveness in general interpersonal relations
Fantastic and uninviting behavior with alcohol and sometimes without
Suicide threats rarely carried out
Sex life impersonal, trivial, and poorly integrated
Failure to follow any life plan

MOO

 

[Shiressleuth]

Pardon me, but I was asking Daey34.

Psrdon me I thought I was helping.

 

[MistyWaters]

Superficial charm and good intelligence
Absence of delusions and other signs of irrational thinking
Absence of nervousness or neurotic manifestations
Unreliability
Untruthfulness and insincerity
Lack of remorse and shame
Inadequately motivated antisocial behavior
Poor judgment and failure to learn by experience
Pathologic egocentricity and incapacity for love
General poverty in major affective reactions
Specific loss of insight
Unresponsiveness in general interpersonal relations
Fantastic and uninviting behavior with alcohol and sometimes without
Suicide threats rarely carried out
Sex life impersonal, trivial, and poorly integrated
Failure to follow any life plan

MOO

What's that old saying.....something about even negative attention better than none? I'm just imagining how glorified he would feel if he reads all the energy a bunch of strangers are investing into him and his life. He's just not worth it.

For me it's time to exit him as a topic.