Cobra: Tapes, Interviews & Case Discussion

[Flossie JMO]

I bumped the file on Snodgrass which contains an article which proves Daniel Snodgrass did go to the HaLeighBug Foundation to donate and he caused problems while he was there.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/florida/news-article.aspx?storyid=134030&catid=4

Thanks, I did see that, and it's according to JR, JMO I would like to know if it's true.

 

[Crosby87]

KOOL, I missed the portion of the tape that talks about DS being in possession of photo's of Misty Croslin as well. I agree that if indeed Misty was acquainted with DS that lends more validity to the discussion. I can only hope that Law Enforcement has the particulars of this and has delved into it deeply.

The discussion about Misty Croslin's risque pictures being found among the photos at DS's house is located near the end of the interview. If you fast forward the tape please confirm what I heard is accurate. I did listen to the interview several times. Thanks.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

I don't know about you guys, but this information is highly suspect. Coincidences, alot of them then. His taking himself to Haleighs donation site sounds alarms off to me. Maybe LE is watching him. He needs to be watched, several of his behaviors including the sheds, the supposed risque photos. I wish we could verify that these photos do exist. Can't one of us ask Cobra point blank if he has seen those photos? Surely he would know something about them, being supposedly Peggy Cone the investigator in the case has them and questioned Misty S.

He posts on another site, has anyone asked him there, surely others are wondering this same thing by now and have had to have asked? Guess I need to go read the comments section.

 

[Crosby87]

You know, since MC apparently "knows" DS and he had risque pictures of her, is it possible he was trading drugs to her for these pictures? Maybe she went over there and scored the night of Haleigh's disappearance and he added a little something to whatever he gave her that konked her out and he slips in and grabs Haleigh, hence no forced entry, or maybe he went back over to the home w/ her and waited for her to pass out. Maybe they were doing the "deed" on the couch and this is what Jr. saw as the couch bouncing. Now, Misty's lie detector tests come back as she is lying because she suspects this is what happened and she feels guilty for doing this and giving him the opportunity to take Haleigh? And she doesn't want to say she did this because #1 it is embarrassing for her and #2 she knows RC would prob. kill her, maybe she is scared DS would kill her. This may be the "key" she is with holding. IMO. Maybe that is where she was when RC was calling and TC went to the trailer.

curvecuti, According to Martha Stewart who wore a GPS monitor while under house arrest, the device can easily be removed. Also GPS's are known to falter around water. Two psychics said a man with the initial 'M' was involved in committing this crime against HaLeigh and 'M' is with DS when Cobra shows up to arrest Snodgrass. It is possible DS coerced his friend to do his dirty work for him and 'M' snatched HaLeigh when Misty was passed out from the drugs he produced to throw off LE. On the other hand, if the account of the bouncing couch witnessed by ButterBean is true, it is entirely possible DS removed his bracelet and was the one Ronnie Jr saw on the couch having sex with Misty and Daniel took HaLeigh on his way out to keep her quiet when she threatened to tell Ron. If DS did take HaLeigh, I doubt he stopped to prop the back door and later that evening when Misty came to and found HaLeigh gone, she propped it open herself drawing from her cousin joe's standard method of operation, to stage an abduction by an unknown predator. If DS was in Ron's house, his prints should be on the couch. Call out to LE: give Marty a lie detector test.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/07/05/entertainment/main706388.shtml

 

[Crosby87]

Curve I have always had a suspicion that when Law Enforcement came forward and and said that "Misty was the key" they had a reason for it and I truly don't think they were building a murder investigation around her. I think at this point anything might be possible. DS has a roommate, or had a roommate did he not? What is that saying birds of a feather flock together? I don't know.

I know that back at the start of this case I found a website that Misty had uploaded a lot of photos to. I also remember that she had aspirations of modeling and some of the pictures on the site were in reference to that. I thought I had it bookmarked but I didn't and the site got shut down anyway...or went private I can't remember. But, I don't think that it is outside the realm of possibility that Misty might have been approached by DS under the ruse of getting pictures made or for the drug angle. Misty has been divorced from Ronald for a short time and it would appear that if she was indeed over at that apartment complex for the purpose of obtaining drugs. I hope that someone is watching over Misty.

I saw the pictures of Misty you're referring to. Unfortunately I didn't save them either.

 

[twall]

charged and on his way to being convicted. He did have priors of sexual crimes. He's a bad man. I'm wondering if snodgrass could have gave Misty S. mom some kind of drugs that sent her into a delusional coma?

With the Mother waking up from a coma and describing such horrid events as cutting and killing of children, I don't know if she dreamed it, or actually witnessed it. So I'm being skeptical for the moment unless we can verify some things. For ex: shes proven not to be delusiona. I find it interesting the Mothers episodes didn't start til right after Haleigh went missing.

We also can't lose sight that snodgrass started visiting and using the Mothers property which was a change in bahavior and routine according to Misty S.

Will these tapes being recently released push LE to go back and tear that property up? Take cadaver dogs? forensics team? Like they did in the Garrido sp? and Jaycee Duggard case.

BBM-I'm curious to know where you found this info. (prior sexual crimes)
I only looked at Putnam Co. and did not see any except for the ones he was charged with in 2007. Did I miss something? TIA!

 

[twall]

I wouldn't be surprised to learn Misty Saunder's mother has blonde hair. It is apparent LE have their own agenda. Misty Sanders mother reported a child's body was dismembered which possibly explains why her neighbors didn't detect the smell of a decomposing body. DS was a chemical engineer in the Army and gave unicycle lessons. My heart goes out to members of the Cummings family. What a sick man.

Misty's last name is Sanders-not your fault-TJ spelled it wrong in his article. eta-after reading ahead I see you figured this out, also! Just helps if you have the right spelling if you are trying to research people!
Here is an interview w/her mother (the woman talked about in the audio)
She does not have blonde hair.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/14898136/detail.html#video

 

[KOOL LOOK]

BBM-I'm curious to know where you found this info. (prior sexual crimes)
I only looked at Putnam Co. and did not see any except for the ones he was charged with in 2007. Did I miss something? TIA!

Those are the charges I'm referring too. Sex crimes against two children. He's a bad man twall.

 

[twall]

You know, since MC apparently "knows" DS and he had risque pictures of her, is it possible he was trading drugs to her for these pictures? Maybe she went over there and scored the night of Haleigh's disappearance and he added a little something to whatever he gave her that konked her out and he slips in and grabs Haleigh, hence no forced entry, or maybe he went back over to the home w/ her and waited for her to pass out. Maybe they were doing the "deed" on the couch and this is what Jr. saw as the couch bouncing. Now, Misty's lie detector tests come back as she is lying because she suspects this is what happened and she feels guilty for doing this and giving him the opportunity to take Haleigh? And she doesn't want to say she did this because #1 it is embarrassing for her and #2 she knows RC would prob. kill her, maybe she is scared DS would kill her. This may be the "key" she is with holding. IMO. Maybe that is where she was when RC was calling and TC went to the trailer.

BBM-not saying this isn't possible because I don't know how accurate the ankle bracelets are-just wanted to point out that the home of DS is approx. 4 miles from 202 Green Lane.
It is also approx. 4 miles from the home of DS to the ex-girlfriend's home where the sheds are located. eta-I would like to know how far his range on the gps device is.

 

[twall]

Was he with Sheryln after the woman with the monkeys? I wondered if she might by the mother of Misty S

Yes, he was with Sheryln after his divorce from Joan-the lady w/the monkey.
public court documents show that Joan had a restraining order against DS.
It was for a year and after that she applied for a permanent one. Joan also has several charges for selling animals w/out the proper permit to do so. They were married for 3 yrs. 1996 to 1999. He was also charged w/theft from her home.
Look at the court docs-interesting.

Sherlyn is the mother of Misty S.
Sherlyn is in the video I posted. It is from 2007 after his arrest. She states what a great guy he is. :sick:
Also looking at public property records Sherlyn's children have power of attorney over her and her assets. I am wondering what her current state of health is.

 

[twall]

Those are the charges I'm referring too. Sex crimes against two children. He's a bad man twall.

ok gotcha-I interpreted it as charges prior to those.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

Misty's last name is Sanders-not your fault-TJ spelled it wrong in his article.
Here is an interview w/her mother (the woman talked about in the audio)
She does not have blonde hair.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/14898136/detail.html#video

Interesting, at the beginning of the video, reporter states, "The two girls have been removed from the Father because possibly he may have known what was happening". What? That's been two years ago, and LE asked for any other girls to come forward and reporter mentioned LE possibly was talking to other girls who may have been victims of snodgrass.

Mrs. Sanders spoke about snodgrass, claimed he was a good man and wouldn't do this, as she was shocked to receive snodgrass' call the night before when he was in jail. She was shocked. Sherilyn was taped outside at snodgrass' property showing the unicycles and stage areas where girls practiced.

Sherilyn appears to be very believable, in her mind that snodgrass is a good man and wouldn't do this. she claims she wouldn't "date a man that would molest children". She states she's a widow of 26 year marriage and thought she would never find another man to be with.

I have news for Sherilyn, evidentally she's not versed in the true crime world like us sleuths. She appears innocent and unaware of the vicious crime elements against children and women concerning sex crimes and violence. So she's speaking from what she knows. So then while dating snodgrass she would have missed signs and red flags alerting to criminal predatory behaviors if she doesn't know what to look for, and obviously she doesn't.

She's believable, just ignorant of how a sexual predator operates. She didn't know her man too good. All sexual predators live double lives for petes sake, that goes with the "MO", modus operanti.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

ok gotcha-I interpreted it as charges prior to those.

can we check him out for priors, also other states, as I believe this man has a history for sure. He had an alias too, we need to sleuth all states, just like the sexual offender just arrested down in Georgia this week. He had a Florida criminal record but nothing in Georgia when he was checked out by the "rescue mission house" that allowed him to stay. He was the bad dude who approached two boys and approached another boy earlier in the week but the boy got away and alerted his parents who alerted authorities. He didn't register in the state of Georgia like he was suppose too, duh

 

[twall]

I would REALLY like to know if those photos of DS and MC together exist.
This guy is a class A creep.
Misty S. stated that he was/is running an escort service.
What if he is involved, LE knows it but don't have enough proof for the charges to stick, let alone get a conviction? If LE did search and investigate him good, found something to link him to the Haleigh crime do you really think they are going to tell the public that or just deny he is involved at all so he is not tipped off? I tend to think the latter. LE never shows their hand before the cards fall. Or what if LE has the proof to make charges and a conviction stick but they are messed up in the dirty deeds right along w/DS and don't want to be outed if they arrest them. I don't want to think about police corruption but it does happen. Have any of you ever researched the West Memphis 3 case or the doings in Ada, OK? Corruption at its finest in those cases.
MOO

 

[twall]

I don't know how to do national searches-I think there is a national sex offender database but I don't think DS has ever been convicted of any sex crimes-I never checked.
I do know that his marriage license said he was born in Ohio.
About your comment where the father may have known what DS was doing to his daughters I wondered that myself. DS probably paid the man to do it. How can you be outside his house when he is inside alone w/them and not wonder/know what is going on. So it really doesn't surprise me that the father could have known.

When I was single and worked my oldest was in daycare. It was state certified and a lady ran it out of her home. Her husband has a twin brother that was charged w/a sex offense. I found out (it was in the paper and I do not live in a largely populated area) but did not know all the details. I immediately removed my daughter from there. Come to find out he had paid to have sex w/a minor girl whose dad or step-dad prostituted her out to men. Several did time over it.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

twall, several are questioning and posting around the net concerning LE and the snodgrass connection to Haleigh. You mentioned they may be involved and that could be a possible explanation. I do agree with you LE wouldn't tip their hand if they are on to snodgrass for obvious good reasons. I have no problem with that.

I do have a problem with that scene at his home not being thoroughly investigated.

 

[twall]

twall, several are questioning and posting around the net concerning LE and the snodgrass connection to Haleigh. You mentioned they may be involved and that could be a possible explanation. I do agree with you LE wouldn't tip their hand if they are on to snodgrass for obvious good reasons. I have no problem with that.

I do have a problem with that scene at his home not being thoroughly investigated.

BBM-me too, if that is true.


MOO

 

[Elphaba]

Given that Cobra flip-flops his views and has been caught in contradiction after contradiction: his word is very hard to trust... and everything has to always come back to being about him and who is to blame for him getting arrested.


I don't doubt for one minute that Snodgrass could have harmed Haleigh... his charges are sickening and I find it repulsive that he was allowed out on bond. I, too, hope LE did do a thorough investigation... but I can't trust Cobra's claim that LE didn't. Sadly, though, there are a lot of people putting Cobra back on a pedestal because he released the tape, and are now pretty much engaging in an online lynching of LE. I say lets get the info from LE... not someone out with an agenda. (Like it or not, Cobra does have an agenda... that trial is coming up, and he has a show with Discovery, now.)

 

[Trident]

Given that Cobra flip-flops his views and has been caught in contradiction after contradiction: his word is very hard to trust... and everything has to always come back to being about him and who is to blame for him getting arrested.


I don't doubt for one minute that Snodgrass could have harmed Haleigh... his charges are sickening and I find it repulsive that he was allowed out on bond. I, too, hope LE did do a thorough investigation... but I can't trust Cobra's claim that LE didn't. Sadly, though, there are a lot of people putting Cobra back on a pedestal because he released the tape, and are now pretty much engaging in an online lynching of LE. I say lets get the info from LE... not someone out with an agenda. (Like it or not, Cobra does have an agenda... that trial is coming up, and he has a show with Discovery, now.)

BBM. My problem with the bolded is - we have no proof that LE did do a thorough investigation. The more I learn about this case, the more convinced I become that something really is wrong in Putnam County.

After 9 months, there is no body, nor any clues to an alive little girl.
There are no suspects.
There are no POIs
There is NOTHING and LE is keeping it that way - for whatever reason.

What we do have is a jail with a revolving door - there must be good money in the bail bond business.
We have a LOT of sex offenders, registered and otherwise.
We have a lot of drugs and plenty of people who use them.
We have a cast of characters running around with guns, stealing, assaulting each other, stretching the truth twelve ways to Sunday, seeming to live well enough and, as far as I know, none of them works.

I don't trust ANYONE down there and, sorry to say, I believe this case has been cold since the first week and that's just the way it's going to stay.

My opinion only

 

[curvecuti]

BBM-not saying this isn't possible because I don't know how accurate the ankle bracelets are-just wanted to point out that the home of DS is approx. 4 miles from 202 Green Lane.
It is also approx. 4 miles from the home of DS to the ex-girlfriend's home where the sheds are located. eta-I would like to know how far his range on the gps device is.

It is almost 4 miles if you go by the google directions, which takes the road, and that is a long ways around. If you look at the map it would be much, much closer and a straight line to cut through. ETA, it would be less than 1.5 miles going this way. Also, DS was able to go to Haleighbug w/o any repercussions so I guess he has a pretty wide range that he can travel. And 1 more thought, as the article by Martha Stewart stated, the ankle monitors can be removed.

Here are the Google directions http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tab=wl