Cobra: Tapes, Interviews & Case Discussion

[blazeofglory]

rc did nothing in these tapes but mislead .he started out by trying to lie about the door that le never took off.he had to come clean to cob and state no they didnt he replaced it .thats another big ole why not? they sure should have because he mighty replace it happy.

 

[blazeofglory]

he was all mighty replace it happy ..goss i hate when i misquote..

 

[blazeofglory]

cob discusses events going on behind the scenes involving himself which led to him being arrested, multiple police reports against cob which led to no arrest with claims he was tampering with evidence or obstructing the investigation,and tn and her contacts wanting cob out of town by filing complaints against him.he brings up rm cs highschool sweetheart who was _HEAVILY involved in finding hc_he talked about *rm* belief he is hc *father*..doesnt his brother work for sa and why would he think hes hc father..this is a very interesting podcast. http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5718793.php

 

[blazeofglory]

i also have to wonder why in mc lva when asked he loves that child it was a doubt not so true answer..and he wouldnt hurt her not so true.

 

[blazeofglory]

bounty hunter disrupts possible terror plot..http//blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/07/bounty-hunter-d.html

 

[blazeofglory]

i wonder did cob turn in the tape of mc and rc stating there own to us rc to feds being why he cant release it**that would make sense..i also wonder why mc stated get cob ive got something for him..or lp but le knocked either one of them to get involved to mistys lawyer.

 

[Whisperer]

http://www.wftv.com/video/18751402/index.html

My favorite..
Reporter asked Ron C ....What have YOU been doing to HELP find your daughter?
Ron C stated.. I've been looking on horseback.. IIRC Didn't Ron C state something about when he was out there on horseback he felt like he was really looking for Haleigh... Anyone remember his exacts words...

Not exactly...but he yearned for tim miller to come back with his horses and 4-wheelers. rc liked the toys, they really made him happy.

 

[Kimster]

Not exactly...but he yearned for tim miller to come back with his horses and 4-wheelers. rc liked the toys, they really made him happy.

:doh: I never thought of it that way before! I'll bet you're absolutely right!

I think he loved the limelight also. He thought he was a true celebrity. :banghead:

 

[Emeralgem]

:doh: I never thought of it that way before! I'll bet you're absolutely right!

I think he loved the limelight also. He thought he was a true celebrity. :banghead:

Kimster, IMHO when you watch that video you can tell he is play acting to the cameras and the reporters.....


BTW..

WISHING YOU A HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY

 

[Kimster]

Thank you for the birthday wishes, Emeralgem! You just sparked an idea in me with that video too! I'm gonna start a new thread about it. :highfive:

 

[1Chump]

ron: let me tell you what else i got man!

cobra: alright bro

ron: february the 10th like i said… that`s when my…

cobra: yes, that was the child support date. (sarcastic) alright now bro. i know. so you were scheduled to go to court and it got f`n put aside.

ron: it got put aside

cobra: ok? ok?

ron: still, how does it get put aside? that`s back child support… that ain`t today`s child support. that`s back child support.

cobra: well i dunno, probably a judge heard about it and said oh s*** he can`t come in today he got a lot on his mind! ya know? i don`t know.

ron: march 27th okay? what made you think your daughter was gonna be gone for a month and 7 days? what made you think that the po-lice wasn`t gonna find em before march 27th?

cobra: i dunno, bro. i dunno.

ron: think about it. think hard!

cobra: i`m tryin, dude my head is *** swole with this s*** bro!

ron: think, think brother.

cobra: why?

ron: why every time marie griffis crystal`s mother gets on tv… why does she say i think Haliegh is alive and in Georgia and Alabama? what is that all about?

cobra: you think they took the kid and hid it out? i don`t think they did… i can`t put it unless joe worked for them. … because i think joe`s my boy.

ron: that`s what i think! …and then i gotta a second thought also… then
i gotta second thought that says if this ** lawyer, which i know she cant take junior from me because i haven`t done nothing wrong in 3 and 1/2 years… why is all sudden I got my… (unintelligible) in the truck, come on! can you put the light back?

cobra: laugh

(end)

I was looking for something else but noticed this for the first time.

Ron was upset that he did not go to court on Feb. 10, 2009 to get his back child support. The day his daughter was reported missing, Ron wanted to be in court over money.

IMO, no way he did not know what happened to Haleigh. The only way he would be upset about the court date being continued is if he thought something might happen to keep him from getting the money. He knew what happened to Haleigh and wanted that money before LE figured it out.

 

[suspicious1]

I was looking for something else but noticed this for the first time.

Ron was upset that he did not go to court on Feb. 10, 2009 to get his back child support. The day his daughter was reported missing, Ron wanted to be in court over money.

IMO, no way he did not know what happened to Haleigh. The only way he would be upset about the court date being continued is if he thought something might happen to keep him from getting the money. He knew what happened to Haleigh and wanted that money before LE figured it out.

1Chump, I mentioned this awhile back. Ron was clearly upset at the fact that his court date was put aside. Why? when his daughter had just been reported missing? That was not Ron's main focus....he wanted his money from Crystal. Money is the root of all evil. Could that be why Ron decided to cover up what happened to Haleigh? IMO, that's why I feel Ron knew from day 1 what happened to his daughter and because of the upcoming court date to get money from Crystal, he couldn't risk losing out on getting his money. And that is why he is so pissed when he learns the court date had been put to the side. I never thought that Ron intentionally hurt his daughter, but after listening to the Cobra tapes, it makes you wonder.

I wonder how Ron found out that his court date had been put aside? Did he attend court at the regular scheduled time? Did someone call and tell him? If so, who?

Was Crystal suppose to attend court too? How ironic Haleigh goes missing the day before Ron and Crystal is set to go to court for back child support. It almost seemed planned out, to happen that way. One would think that LE would look at the mother, instantly, due to the fact that she owed back child support and conveniently was scheduled for court one day after Haleigh went missing. It seems all to convenient, at least to me it does.

JMO of course

 

[butterfly1978]

I wonder if origianly Ron was suppose to pay whoever the money Chrystal was going to pay in back child support to someone who was holding Haleigh. I'm just trying to look at other alternatives here. trying to think outside the box

 

[dodie20]

I wonder if origianly Ron was suppose to pay whoever the money Chrystal was going to pay in back child support to someone who was holding Haleigh. I'm just trying to look at other alternatives here. trying to think outside the box

a couple of the nagging things about this case, are the back child support, & Ron being in trouble for Haleigh's school attendance. In a lot of cases these might be big problems, but with these people, I have to remind myself that these kinds of things, may have been taken in stride. But like you said, I have kind of had the feeling that maybe Haleigh was stashed for awhile, & then something went wrong. But that theory doesn't really wash, because of the Joe stories.

 

[butterfly1978]

a couple of the nagging things about this case, are the back child support, & Ron being in trouble for Haleigh's school attendance. In a lot of cases these might be big problems, but with these people, I have to remind myself that these kinds of things, may have been taken in stride. But like you said, I have kind of had the feeling that maybe Haleigh was stashed for awhile, & then something went wrong. But that theory doesn't really wash, because of the Joe stories.

I agree, but then I remember Ron stating that if he had X amount of money he could get Haleigh back but never followed through, that has irritated me a lot. I wonder if someone was holding her and Ron was suppose to pay someone off, then when it was announced the persons holding her did something to her.

I understand that the easiest solution to this is Misty did it or Tommy and Misty or Joe and Tommy, but after all these months I just cant see them hanging on to this and someone not giving it up by now. We have to be missing something.

 

[justus4all]

I agree, but then I remember Ron stating that if he had X amount of money he could get Haleigh back but never followed through, that has irritated me a lot. I wonder if someone was holding her and Ron was suppose to pay someone off, then when it was announced the persons holding her did something to her.

I understand that the easiest solution to this is Misty did it or Tommy and Misty or Joe and Tommy, but after all these months I just cant see them hanging on to this and someone not giving it up by now. We have to be missing something.

bolded by me...

Yes, I remember also. Ron making that statement...but was it true or another attempt to throw out suspicion that there were others involved...

IMO...If that WERE true...and someone WAS holding Haleigh for an X amout of money...don't you think Ron, TN and her family would have begged borrowed or stolen the money to get her back???...There was no ransom note I am aware of....no drop off place...no terms....no PROOF...Just Ron saying that....That is my thought about it anyway....

I respect your theory...We all have so many theories that change everyday...due to new stories..that are put out...everyday...

Sometimes my mind is....spinning...as to these folks...

all in my own opinion...

 

[seeking truth]

I was looking for something else but noticed this for the first time.

Ron was upset that he did not go to court on Feb. 10, 2009 to get his back child support. The day his daughter was reported missing, Ron wanted to be in court over money.

IMO, no way he did not know what happened to Haleigh. The only way he would be upset about the court date being continued is if he thought something might happen to keep him from getting the money. He knew what happened to Haleigh and wanted that money before LE figured it out.

I look at Ron's state of mind differently, IChump. Two separate issues for him; the money owed him being most important, as he knew HaLeigh was gone:

1. The crime (I believe) he committed against his daughter, and the ensuing cover-up.

2. The court date being put to a later date. Cobra's answer is most likely the truth. The Judge (or those who schedule hearings at the courthouse) would be thinking that this poor father would have more important issues on his mind on Feb. 10th:

His daughter had just got stole!

This conversation was a while after HaLeigh had been gone, but apparently before March 27, 2009. The only connection between the upcoming court date regarding child support and HaLeigh "disappearing" that I can guess at is this:

We have seen proof and heard proof that HaLeigh had been missing too much school. There is proof (to some of us who choose to believe the photos and the words of HaLeigh's maternal family) that HaLeigh was being abused. I think Ron possibly dreaded that court date, though his words to Cobra more suggest that he is not very bright, not realizing that issues could be brought up in court about his poor parenting. I think he knew this, but by the time he was talking with Cobra, this was not an issue, he felt, and he could pretend to be upset about child support he felt was rightly owed him. Incredible.

I think he was very stressed out, to put it mildly. Troubles with his teen-aged girlfriend, attempting to be a parent to two young children, trying to work a steady job, and so much more. I believe that it came to a head on the afternoon or early evening of Feb. 9th, 2009, and that Ron fatally injured HaLeigh. The rest involves a cover-up by Ron's family and then a blaming of Misty and her family.

ALL MY OPINIONS.

 

[dodie20]

I agree, but then I remember Ron stating that if he had X amount of money he could get Haleigh back but never followed through, that has irritated me a lot. I wonder if someone was holding her and Ron was suppose to pay someone off, then when it was announced the persons holding her did something to her.

I understand that the easiest solution to this is Misty did it or Tommy and Misty or Joe and Tommy, but after all these months I just cant see them hanging on to this and someone not giving it up by now. We have to be missing something.

Ron making that statement is one of the main reasons, I've thought he was involved. Who besides a guilty person, would talk that BS? the same thing with the road rage guy. He related a story, from Misty, about a guy at a convenient store, (I think), which was very similar. I didn't think Misty made it up. I thought it was some more of Ron's lying BS. some more of his 'godfather' drama...said to impress, but just made him look as guilty as h***, IMO. anything to cast suspicion elsewhere.

 

[Crosby87]

bolded by me...

Yes, I remember also. Ron making that statement...but was it true or another attempt to throw out suspicion that there were others involved...

IMO...If that WERE true...and someone WAS holding Haleigh for an X amout of money...don't you think Ron, TN and her family would have begged borrowed or stolen the money to get her back???...There was no ransom note I am aware of....no drop off place...no terms....no PROOF...Just Ron saying that....That is my thought about it anyway....

I respect your theory...We all have so many theories that change everyday...due to new stories..that are put out...everyday...

Sometimes my mind is....spinning...as to these folks...

all in my own opinion...

FYI, I snipped this from Levi Page's Show on April 18th, 2010:

Leonard Padilla: When I was sitting next to Ron when he was getting ready to go on Nancy Grace Show, I offered him ½ million dollars to search for his daughter and he said, “No, that’s okay”.

Also there is a picture of Ron kneeling on a dock handing LE a piece of paper and no one knows what was on it.

ETA: And AFAIK, drug dealers would never give Ron a huge amount of drugs unless he paid them cash up front. When we see Ron in the car with the undercover cop, money is exchanged when the pills are handed over. There is no such thing as credit when it comes to drug dealing so there is no way Ron owed a drug dealer a huge amount of money and because he didn't pay up on time, they took his daughter instead. That is not how it works with drug dealers. JMO

 

[dodie20]

FYI, I snipped this from Levi Page's Show on April 18th, 2010:

Leonard Padilla: When I was sitting next to Ron when he was getting ready to go on Nancy Grace Show, I offered him ½ million dollars to search for his daughter and he said, “No, that’s okay”.

Also there is a picture of Ron kneeling on a dock handing LE a piece of paper and no one knows what was on it.

ETA: And AFAIK, drug dealers would never give Ron a huge amount of drugs unless he paid them cash up front. When we see Ron in the car with the undercover cop, money is exchanged when the pills are handed over. There is no such thing as credit when it comes to drug dealing so there is no way Ron owed a drug dealer a huge amount of money and because he didn't pay up on time, they took his daughter instead. That is not how it works with drug dealers. JMO

actually, dealers do front drugs. My daughter's ex got into a jam over that. They had been broken up for awhile, (not speaking), & his dealer confronted her for the money. Now that, I found unusual, but it made me think that she had paid his debts in the past. & she never admitted it, but I think she paid it this time too. But how much would a dealer be willing to front? Surely not hundreds of thousands of dollars worth. I would think they would get cut off, after a few thousand? I guess it would depend if the person being fronted was also a dealer, but only on a smaller scale.