CocoaMom's Church Theory

[TexasLil]

do you have the location for those two towers??

Here are the latitude and longitude:

Tower 46: 28.5653389 N 81.2958361 W

Tower 48: 28.5705556 N 81.2363889 W

 

[shadow of my mind]

28.565339, -81.295836
Tilden Ave
Tower 46

1. Head south on Tilden Ave toward Old Cheney Hwy 121 ft
2. Turn left at Old Cheney Hwy 348 ft
3. Turn left at N Forsyth Rd/Shibley Ave 0.1 mi
4. Turn right at E Colonial Dr/SR-50 3.5 mi
5. Turn left at Culver Rd 282 ft
Tower 48

Tower 46 is on Tilden off of Old Cheney
Tower 48 Culver Rd off of Colonial Dr. is

Chruch is 2008 N Goldenrod Rd, Orlando,
and
Spanish congregation
1840 N Goldenrod Rd, Orlando

and I don't know which is which. I also don't know it they are connected two different phone numbers

 

[cocoamom]

Here are towers 46 and 48. I haven't mastered the circles yet.

Awesome! See, from a corporate perspective, why would you overlap by much a cell radius? Waste of $$$. Coverage IMO would only extend as far as it could before overlapping the coverage of another tower. ie build as few towers as possible to provide coverage - saves $$.

The BP search is East of the 417 Greenway. The tower she pinged the most near BP is the one by the church - WEST side of BP, church, lots of small strip stores, Amscot, etc.

How does the long/lat last digit tell you the "direction" the call came from? Does it tell you North or South or whatever? The church and Blanchard Park are both North and East of the tower. If the long/lat tells us South and West or something, the church might be totally off the mark!

Anyone notice that the address of the church is 2008N. Goldenrod? That is this year... not trying to be psychic or anything here - just pointing out one more oddity...

 

[mamadofthree]

Awesome! See, from a corporate perspective, why would you overlap by much a cell radius? Waste of $$$. Coverage IMO would only extend as far as it could before overlapping the coverage of another tower. ie build as few towers as possible to provide coverage - saves $$.

The BP search is East of the 417 Greenway. The tower she pinged the most near BP is the one by the church - WEST side of BP, church, lots of small strip stores, Amscot, etc.

How does the long/lat last digit tell you the "direction" the call came from? Does it tell you North or South or whatever? The church and Blanchard Park are both North and East of the tower. If the long/lat tells us South and West or something, the church might be totally off the mark!

Anyone notice that the address of the church is 2008N. Goldenrod? That is this year... not trying to be psychic or anything here - just pointing out one more oddity...

Hey Cocoa I just got up and wanted to check in with you.. Have you been able to contact the church? I know you were working on that last night.. just wanted you to know when I woke up I thought of you and everyone searching today!

 

[mommaearth]

Here are the latitude and longitude:

Tower 46: 28.5653389 N 81.2958361 W

Tower 48: 28.5705556 N 81.2363889 W

thanks texaslil!

 

[mommaearth]

These are the three closest towers. Tower 46 is the closest to the amscot and the church.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?f=q&...326,-81.257973&spn=0.111857,0.132866&t=h&z=13

 

[david918]

I posted this last night after focusing on the tower that services Blanchard Park near where the diving search was going on. I didnt see any comments but you cant dismiss the behavior the night of 6-30 and the early morning hours of 7-1. KC was at Blanchard Park from 12 am - 2am texting TonE and the shot girl. Take a look again at this

Ping map info from possible Blanchard Park location tower when calls being made from a stationary location. I assumed more than 5 minutes on a single tower as being stationary.

June 16 - 9:04 - 11:17 pm

June 20 - 8:09 - 8:15 pm

June 23 - 8:30 - 8:52 pm

June 26 - 5:49 - 6:50 pm

June 29 - 12:34 - 1:47 pm
4:21 - 4:55 pm
6:06 - 8:00 pm

June 30 - 11:00 - 11:53 pm *** appears KC out all night - this is the first night without TonE in town.

July 1 - 12:07 - 2:00 am *** right in the middle of Blanchard Park area
2:00am - 10 am *** pinging towers that surround the area with the street called Bella Vida Blvd.
5:18 - 5:25 pm

It is worth noting that KC did not ping in the Blanchard Park area after the early morning hours of July 1. Remember TonE was out of town, and KC had his jeep. I find most telling is the fact that she is pinging a tower that is the closest to that search area at 12:00 am - 2:00 am on July 1 then she moves east and pings towers that surround this Bella Vida Blvd until 10 am. This was the only timeframe that the Towers near Bella Vida Blvd were pinged ever.

This activity from 6-30 through 7-1 is more significant now after knowing what LP is doing searching BP so hard.

I am beginning to think that KC could have put CL in the park area and was checking on her while trying to figure out what to do. I think on the night of 6/30 and morning of 7/1 which is the first time TonE is gone she moved CL for good. IMO

 

[mommaearth]

does anyone know tony's address to add to the map?

 

[Annette73]

I posted this last night after focusing on the tower that services Blanchard Park near where the diving search was going on. I didnt see any comments but you cant dismiss the behavior the night of 6-30 and the early morning hours of 7-1. KC was at Blanchard Park from 12 am - 2am texting TonE and the shot girl. Take a look again at this

Wow, this freaked me out, it makes perfect sense! What was she doing for two hours in the middle of the night at BP???!!

 

[mommaearth]

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?f=q&...331,-81.292305&spn=0.223691,0.405807&t=h&z=12

here is a map that shows the church, BP, TL's, amscot, there is a tower #46 that is the closest to the church/amscot area. TL's is farther north and although I can't find them to add to the map there are several towers closer to his house.

 

[JWG]

Here is an image that attempts to show the cell coverage in this area. Centered on each of the three cell towers I drew circles with 2.25 mile radii. I colored the north sector yellow (CID=1), the southeast sector blue (CID=2), and the southwest sector red (CID=3).

The coverage is an estimate. I do not know the exact reach of each tower, nor do I know how they prioritize calls or how much traffic they can handle. Each tower is owned by a different provider.

Hopefully with the above description the image makes sense.

 

[UCFAlumni2002]

I have to say this research is good--- good job everyone!

I have always thought that Caylee is somewhere in between Amscott, TL's, Sam's Club, and BP.

The kidnapping story with "Samantha- Zenaida's sister" kidnapping Caylee from BP always made me think that the Amscott, Sam's Club and BP were all interrelated somehow.... the fact that this church is so close to the Amscott is quite interesting.

Definitely something for them to AT LEAST follow up on.

 

[mommaearth]

Here is an image that attempts to show the cell coverage in this area. Centered on each of the three cell towers I drew circles with 2.25 mile radii. I colored the north sector yellow (CID=1), the southeast sector blue (CID=2), and the southwest sector red (CID=3).

The coverage is an estimate. I do not know the exact reach of each tower, nor do I know how they prioritize calls or how much traffic they can handle. Each tower is owned by a different provider.

Hopefully with the above description the image makes sense.

I can't see the picture:waitasec:

 

[mommaearth]

I see it now. interesting

 

[cocoamom]

Here is an image that attempts to show the cell coverage in this area. Centered on each of the three cell towers I drew circles with 2.25 mile radii. I colored the north sector yellow (CID=1), the southeast sector blue (CID=2), and the southwest sector red (CID=3).

The coverage is an estimate. I do not know the exact reach of each tower, nor do I know how they prioritize calls or how much traffic they can handle. Each tower is owned by a different provider.

Hopefully with the above description the image makes sense.

Probably a stupid question but would you please explaing what CID's are or point us to a link? I don't get it - Duh!!! LOL The map is cool - wish I knew how to do the circles and color thing!!!

My understanding is that towers don't over lap by more than about 1/4 mile (friends in satellite/tower/broadcast installation business). When one company runs out of coverage, another company's tower will carry the signal but the first company has to pay like rent or a fee or something for their signal to be carried on another company's tower. Something like roaming and they just pass that cost on to us - the consumer...am I totally off here?

I would think that 3 towers so close to each other wouldn't or shouldn't overlap this much or signals would be showing as bouncing from tower to tower right?

She only had one phone company but her signal bounces between two towers near Tony's - if they are owned by two different companies then I guess tower ownership isn't an issue. She also bounces between two towers when at home. No bouncing with these pings - that's what caught my attention to begin with! Closer to the tower = no bouncing!!!

Does this make sense or am I off? You seem to know quite a lot about the towers and pings so I really value your opinion!

PS Calls in to the church Administrators - waiting to hear back - will try again later if no return call.

 

[cocoamom]

I posted this last night after focusing on the tower that services Blanchard Park near where the diving search was going on. I didnt see any comments but you cant dismiss the behavior the night of 6-30 and the early morning hours of 7-1. KC was at Blanchard Park from 12 am - 2am texting TonE and the shot girl. Take a look again at this

Wow! Great David918! Thanks for that work! Question, how would she put her in the park or even go in there with her car? It closes at dark, gates locked, no way in except on foot. If on foot, where did she park the car that was a short enough walk? These are some of the reasons I started to discount the Blanchard Park theory, then I saw the church! No gates, no locks, no problem...

I also did some research on Chloroform a while ago. Appears it is pretty short term (30 minutes to 2 hrs) for knocking someone out - unless combined with another sedative - hmmmm.

 

[Soulscape]

Also, KC took the shower at Jesse G's place on July 1st.

See Post #10 on the Showering at Jesse's thread:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2933854&postcount=10

Fits right in with David's time line....

Thanks,
Soulscape

 

[EricaG]

bella vida blvd and a new tattoo that says bella vita????

 

[JWG]

Probably a stupid question but would you please explaing what CID's are or point us to a link? I don't get it - Duh!!! LOL The map is cool - wish I knew how to do the circles and color thing!!!

My understanding is that towers don't over lap by more than about 1/4 mile (friends in satellite/tower/broadcast installation business). When one company runs out of coverage, another company's tower will carry the signal but the first company has to pay like rent or a fee or something for their signal to be carried on another company's tower. Something like roaming and they just pass that cost on to us - the consumer...am I totally off here?

I would think that 3 towers so close to each other wouldn't or shouldn't overlap this much or signals would be showing as bouncing from tower to tower right?

She only had one phone company but her signal bounces between two towers near Tony's - if they are owned by two different companies then I guess tower ownership isn't an issue. She also bounces between two towers when at home. No bouncing with these pings - that's what caught my attention to begin with! Closer to the tower = no bouncing!!!

Does this make sense or am I off? You seem to know quite a lot about the towers and pings so I really value your opinion!

PS Calls in to the church Administrators - waiting to hear back - will try again later if no return call.

CID is Cell ID - and actually I am referring to the least-significant (first) digit. The antenna on a cell tower is shaped like a triangle. From what I understand is that when CID=1, the north side of the antenna is pinged. When CID=2, it is the southeast side. When CID=3, it is the southwest side. This I got from another WS'er who got it from a friend in the business.

I believe the above is an oversimplification. First, many towers have multiple triangular-shaped antennas - one on top of the other - and a simple image search on Google shows they do not all have the same orientation. I have viewed several of the antennas in question using the OCPA website and, while they all are generally oriented as described above, they are slightly different from one another.

Also, I see the occasional CIDs greater than 3. I cannot find references on the web that can help me better interpret the IDs.

Cell towers can most definitely overlap by a significant amount. Case in point: One of the tower locations that is pinged frequently when Casey is at her parents actually holds two large towers less that 100 feet apart. Her phone pings both towers.

 

[mom4321]

so did anyone ask the church for permission to search ?