Colorado, US - 'targeted terror attack’, FBI investigating after reports people injured, June 1 2025

[KonaHonu]

They overstayed their tourist visa, and if that can be proven by DHS, then they are here illegally and that is the due process they should be afforded, and then they can be deported.

Do we know that to be true? Because DHS on Tuesday said their visas were being canceled. Why would they talk about canceling visas if they were invalid.

While I have some sympathy if they are being target for the "sins of the father," if they really had overstayed their visas I don't have a major issue with deporting them. But there is no reason to assume they were on the same visa as the father.

 

[Sundog]

Do we know that to be true? Because DHS on Tuesday said their visas were being canceled. Why would they talk about canceling visas if they were invalid.

While I have some sympathy if they are being target for the "sins of the father," if they really had overstayed their visas I don't have a major issue with deporting them. But there is no reason to assume they were on the same visa as the father.

I think the lawyer for the wife is playing up the "sins of the father" narrative but that isn't the reason she is being deported. It has been reported that she entered the U.S. in 2022 on a tourist visa, along with her husband and with the five children. It appears that she has overstayed her visa. If that's not the case, I think we will learn about it before she is deported.

U.S. judge temporarily blocks deportation of family of Colorado attack suspect

A federal judge in Colorado on Wednesday temporarily blocked the Trump administration from deporting the wife and five children of the Egyptian man charged in a fire-bomb attack in Boulder, Colorado.

www.reuters.com

El Gamal, 41, is an Egyptian national who was born in Saudi Arabia, according to the lawsuit. She and her children entered the U.S. on visitor visas in August 2022 and are dependents under her husband's still-pending asylum application, the suit said. El Gamal is a network engineer and had applied for a work visa, the filing said.

 

[KonaHonu]

I think the lawyer for the wife is playing up the "sins of the father" narrative but that isn't the reason she is being deported. It has been reported that she entered the U.S. in 2022 on a tourist visa, along with her husband and with the five children. It appears that she has overstayed her visa. If that's not the case, I think we will learn about it before she is deported.

U.S. judge temporarily blocks deportation of family of Colorado attack suspect

A federal judge in Colorado on Wednesday temporarily blocked the Trump administration from deporting the wife and five children of the Egyptian man charged in a fire-bomb attack in Boulder, Colorado.

www.reuters.com

El Gamal, 41, is an Egyptian national who was born in Saudi Arabia, according to the lawsuit. She and her children entered the U.S. on visitor visas in August 2022 and are dependents under her husband's still-pending asylum application, the suit said. El Gamal is a network engineer and had applied for a work visa, the filing said.

Obviously what the guy did deserves prison and deportation. But if he had a pending asylum application that included the family, that would seem to mean they are here legally. It is unlawful in our system to punish people for what their relatives did. This needs attention from judges rather than bigots and I'm glad to see it is getting that attention.

 

[Ontario Mom]

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/04/nx-s1-5423750/judge-blocks-deportation-of-boulder-attackers-family

A federal judge on Wednesday ordered the government to immediately halt deportation proceedings against the wife and five children of a man charged in the firebombing attack in Boulder, Colorado, responding to what the judge called an urgent situation to ensure the protection of the family's constitutional rights.

U.S. District Judge Gordon P. Gallagher granted a request from the family of Mohamed Sabry Soliman to block their deportation, after U.S. immigration officials took them into federal custody Tuesday.

They overstayed their tourist visa, and if that can be proven by DHS, then they are here illegally and that is the due process they should be afforded, and then they can be deported.

Since when did non citizens in the country illegally, have constitutional rights?

 

[PrairieWind]

Obviously what the guy did deserves prison and deportation. But if he had a pending asylum application that included the family, that would seem to mean they are here legally. It is unlawful in our system to punish people for what their relatives did. This needs attention from judges rather than bigots and I'm glad to see it is getting that attention.

There was no pending asylum application. Though I understand the family has now attempted to file one (but I don't think procedurally they can at this point.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Since when did non citizens in the country illegally, have constitutional rights?

Replying to myself to just add, I had no idea you could be in the US illegally but still claim protection by the US constitution that was drafted for "we the people" of the United States.

 

[Sundog]

Obviously what the guy did deserves prison and deportation. But if he had a pending asylum application that included the family, that would seem to mean they are here legally. It is unlawful in our system to punish people for what their relatives did. This needs attention from judges rather than bigots and I'm glad to see it is getting that attention.

The government agencies that enforce our laws, including immigration agencies such as our Department of Homeland Security, are not bigots. They are enforcing the law. Right now, all we know is that she, with her children, has overstayed her tourist visa and they are in the process of being deported. Doesn't sound like any bigotry to me.

 

[PrairieWind]

Replying to myself to just add, I had no idea you could be in the US illegally but still claim protection by the US constitution that was drafted for "we the people" of the United States.

Even illegal immigrants are protected by many constitutional provisions. The Constitution mentions rights of the "people", not citizens or legal residents. But what constitutes "due process" is really where the more important and pressing question is.

 

[KonaHonu]

Even illegal immigrants are protected by many constitutional provisions. The Constitution mentions rights of the "people", not citizens or legal residents. But what constitutes "due process" is really where the more important and pressing question is.

Exactly! Due process is critical.

 

[KonaHonu]

Since when did non citizens in the country illegally, have constitutional rights?

June 21, 1788

 

[PrairieWind]

Exactly! Due process is critical.

Keep in mind however, that due process in some cases doesn't mean a hearing or appointment of counsel. Expedited removal does not require a hearing. So presumably this judge is just demanding that they qualify for expedited process.

 

[Sundog]

Keep in mind however, that due process in some cases doesn't mean a hearing or appointment of counsel. Expedited removal does not require a hearing. So presumably this judge is just demanding that they qualify for expedited process.

It was stated by the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security that the wife and children would be deported under expedited removal, so presumably they qualify for the expedited process. And as you stated, if they do qualify for expedited removal, then it is within the law for DHS to deport them without a hearing before an immigration judge.

 

[Sundog]

Does anyone have a link to the court hearing this afternoon for the Colorado terrorist, Soliman? IIRC, he has a state court hearing today at 3:30 Boulder time, and tomorrow in federal court, not sure of time.

Th state court hearing should be underway now.

 

[KonaHonu]

It was stated by the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security that the wife and children would be deported under expedited removal, so presumably they qualify for the expedited process. And as you stated, if they do qualify for expedited removal, then it is within the law for DHS to deport them without a hearing before an immigration judge.

Expedited Removal Explainer

Expedited removal is a process by which low-level immigration officers can quickly deport certain noncitizens who are undocumented or have committed fraud or misrepresentation.

www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

"From June 2020 through March 2022, and again in January 2025 to the present, immigration officers have been authorized to apply it to:

1. Any noncitizen who arrived at a port of entry, at any time, and is determined to be inadmissible for fraud or misrepresentation or lacking proper entry documents and

1. Any noncitizen who entered without inspection (by land or sea), was never admitted or paroled, is encountered anywhere in the United States, and cannot prove that they have been physically present in the United States for the two years preceding the immigration officer’s determination that they are inadmissible for fraud or misrepresentation or lack of proper entry documents. "

It would appear the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security does not know the law.

 

[Sundog]

Boulder firebombing suspect charged with 118 counts, including 28 counts of attempted murder, in state court

Mohamed Soliman, 45, could spend the rest of his life in prison if convicted. He appeared in court at the Boulder County jail on Thursday afternoon.

coloradosun.com

The man accused of tossing Molotov cocktails into a group of peaceful demonstrators in Boulder was charged Thursday in state court with 118 counts, including attempted murder.

Mohamed Soliman, 45, could spend the rest of his life in prison if convicted. He appeared in court at the Boulder County jail on Thursday afternoon where he was advised of the charges against him. Soliman is being held in lieu of a $10 million bond.

Soliman is also facing a federal hate crime charge in the attack. That carries a penalty of life in prison if he’s convicted.

He is due in federal court Friday afternoon.

 

[Sundog]

Boulder firebombing suspect charged with 118 counts, including 28 counts of attempted murder, in state court

Mohamed Soliman, 45, could spend the rest of his life in prison if convicted. He appeared in court at the Boulder County jail on Thursday afternoon.

coloradosun.com

Soliman told authorities he initially tried to purchase a gun to carry out the attack, even going so far as to learn how to shoot a gun and take a concealed carry course. But his purchase was denied because he is living in the U.S. illegally.

The Colorado Bureau of Investigation says his background check was denied as he tried to buy a handgun at Scheels, a sporting goods store, in Colorado Springs in November. CBI says Soliman didn’t appeal.

 

[Sundog]

This makes me wonder how did he ever get a work visa to come to the US? If that was his known views and what he openly posted, then why did we let him in? So preventable and I am glad he didn't succeed in killing anyone, but his actions will have lasting impact on his victims and Jewish citizens who have had yet another whacko harm them for no other reason than they are Jewish.

He was granted a B-2 visa which allows people to visit family, be a tourist, or get medical care for a max period of 6 months. You can't work on a B-2 visa. And you have to show proof that you have ties to your homeland and won't try to stay in the U.S.

They came here fraudently, IMO, with no intent to return to their home. Their daughter graduated from high school while here. How does that meet their application to come here as tourists? Fraud all around, IMO.

 

[Sundog]

No one sat Thursday in the area of the courtroom gallery reserved for victims. In the gallery were three women and a man all wearing keffiyeh, which represents the Palestinian liberation movement, and the women were wearing masks covering their faces.

Can relatives of the victims and/or their representatives be seated in the area of the courtroom gallery reserved for victims? They need to be represented at the next hearing, IMO, of course only if they want to be. Maybe the prosecutor's office can help arrange this for the next state court hearing.

Boulder firebombing suspect charged with 118 counts, including 28 counts of attempted murder, in state court

Mohamed Soliman, 45, could spend the rest of his life in prison if convicted. He appeared in court at the Boulder County jail on Thursday afternoon.

coloradosun.com

 

[KonaHonu]

He was granted a B-2 visa which allows people to visit family, be a tourist, or get medical care for a max period of 6 months. You can't work on a B-2 visa. And you have to show proof that you have ties to your homeland and won't try to stay in the U.S.

They came here fraudently, IMO, with no intent to return to their home. Their daughter graduated from high school while here. How does that meet their application to come here as tourists? Fraud all around, IMO.

You seem to be making assumptions. How do we know the wife and kids did not come first, he came to visit on a B-2 visa, then somehow got a work permit. I don't have any doubt he is in the US illegally since his work permit expired in March but I have not seen anything that says the entire family was in the same situation. Can you post a link to something that details the visa status of the wife and kids (something besides politician statements)?

 

[KonaHonu]

He was granted a B-2 visa which allows people to visit family, be a tourist, or get medical care for a max period of 6 months. You can't work on a B-2 visa. And you have to show proof that you have ties to your homeland and won't try to stay in the U.S.

They came here fraudently, IMO, with no intent to return to their home. Their daughter graduated from high school while here. How does that meet their application to come here as tourists? Fraud all around, IMO.

In the Colorado Sun article you linked it says he arrived in August 2022 then sought asylum in September 2022 then was given a work permit in March 2023 after being here 180 days, which is the law. Immigration courts are so backlogged that it is likely his asylum case has not even been heard so he would still be legal to be here but not work. Obviously that no longer applies to him but it MAY apply to his family. We just don't know. And DHS has misapplied the law so much lately (according to courts right up to SCOTUS) that their statements have no credibility in my opinion.