Connecticut school district on lockdown after shooting report at a Newtown elemen #5

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I am slightly disturbed by the blog post "I am Adam Lanza's mother" because the mother is basically making a very public prediction that her son is going to do something very bad and I'm worried about it becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. Negative parental expectations sometimes have that effect on children as children may decide that if their parents don't expect anything good of them then there's no reason to try to achieve anything good. If parental expectations aren't bad enough, now this child has people world wide talking about him and speculating what evil things may come to pass yet.

I hope they get the help they need.
 
  • #382
Here's a friend of NL's and I think that whatever the diagnosis this symptom he describes (difficulties in bonding, connecting, expressing emotion, being affectionate) is probably rather important in what was wrong with AL:


http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/mother_devoted_her_life_to_him_then_PADqWsNSMfrx3KnO6JnlrI

So, she is concerned that her son is so devoid of emotion and human connection that he cannot express love to his own mother, that she decides showing him how to operate powerful weaponry is the way to bond with him? This makes no sense. There must have been a million other ways to accomplish this. SMH
 
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Only one child made it out alive of a first-grade classroom at Sandy Hook Elementary School last week — by fooling the gunman into thinking she was dead, the family's pastor says.

The little girl, who is 6½ years old but hasn't otherwise been identified, "ran out of the school building covered in blood from head to toe, and the first words she said to her mom when she got outside was, 'Mommy, I'm OK, but all of my friends are dead,'" the Rev. Jim Solomon, pastor of New Hope Community Church in Newtown, Conn., told ABC News in a report that aired Sunday.

"Of those who were left in the classroom of first graders, she was the lone survivor," Solomon said. (Law enforcement officials and witnesses say seven pupils survived in a second classroom by hiding in a closet.)
http://www.12newsnow.com/story/20364739/six-year-old-survived-sandy-hook-shooting-by-playing-dead
 
  • #385
So, she is concerned that her son is so devoid of emotion and human connection that he cannot express love to his own mother, that she decides showing him how to operate powerful weaponry is the way to bond with him? This makes no sense. There must have been a million other ways to accomplish this. SMH

My brother is like that, and my mom, bless her dear departed heart, made sure to be completely "up" on sports so she could talk scores with him every day. Sometimes it was the only time he spoke at all.
 
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For those who visit the PP here, you'd know I'm not a big fan of President Obama...but my heart and prayers have been going out to him to stay strong and find the right words in dealing with this.

I love this, what he did that's in this link below. A little detail, but so meaningful to those at that school, etc.

Thank you, President Obama...I think he's been handling this with great grace.


http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highs...l-teacher-whiteboard-note-153724810--spt.html

Same here DD, but the pix of the little girl with arms wrapped around his legs is adorable. Its the innocence of the picture to me is what I see.
 
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I'm going to toss this out to you guys...

I'm wondering if the cause could be bullying? Kids with Asperger's have been known to be bullied and when they are in middle school it's really bad for them. My son was miserable daily during that time in his life and I can't post the things the kids said to him in middle school cuz I'd have to give myself a time out for the language. Perhaps this burned something in his brain that he couldn't come to terms with...
 
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Is calling the cops and making her 13-yr-old son their problem really considered coping?

To me it's a parent that is stressed and at the end of their rope and in need of some assistance with coping.
 
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The Nation ‏@thenation
As of this afternoon, the rifle used by the Newtown shooter was for sale at about 1,700 Walmart stores nationwide: http://tnat.in/gaIbE
 
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I'm going to toss this out to you guys...

I'm wondering if the cause could be bullying? Kids with Asperger's have been known to be bullied and when they are in middle school it's really bad for them. My son was miserable daily during that time in his life and I can't post the things the kids said to him in middle school cuz I'd have to give myself a time out for the language. Perhaps this burned something in his brain that he couldn't come to terms with...

I wondered about that, but with so many people monitoring him during school? And it sounded like he was one of those kids who just flew under the radar and went more or less unnoticed, more than was a target... no one has mentioned that he had social problems of that nature. Also he killed LITTLE kids. Not really the bullying age kids (I think 7-8 grade as the peak for that).
 
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I am slightly disturbed by the blog post "I am Adam Lanza's mother" because the mother is basically making a very public prediction that her son is going to do something very bad and I'm worried about it becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. Negative parental expectations sometimes have that effect on children as children may decide that if their parents don't expect anything good of them then there's no reason to try to achieve anything good. If parental expectations aren't bad enough, now this child has people world wide talking about him and speculating what evil things may come to pass yet.

I hope they get the help they need.

Yeah, look at her other blog entries. I hope they get the help they need too...
 
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For those who visit the PP here, you'd know I'm not a big fan of President Obama...but my heart and prayers have been going out to him to stay strong and find the right words in dealing with this.

I love this, what he did that's in this link below. A little detail, but so meaningful to those at that school, etc.

Thank you, President Obama...I think he's been handling this with great grace.


http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highs...l-teacher-whiteboard-note-153724810--spt.html

Thanks for this Deputydawg. I thirst for little nuggets like this to help me through this story. Did you see the pic with little Emilie's siblings?

You aren't the only one who has had a change of heart about Obama, if not of policy, but thinking he is a really good man with how he is handling this tragedy. A parent at the vigil never supported Obama and wrote a piece saying he feel sorry for the things he said and thought about him, that the ability to come in and help heal broken hearts and give a speech that meant something made him see him as a good man, a decent man. The speech made him heal, while still broken, he saw he is on this earth for something. wish i could find the link.
 
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My brother is like that, and my mom, bless her dear departed heart, made sure to be completely "up" on sports so she could talk scores with him every day. Sometimes it was the only time he spoke at all.


How sad for your mom, and I bless her heart, too. She went where he was and met him there.
 
  • #396
To me it's a parent that is stressed and at the end of their rope and in need of some assistance with coping.

police aren't a conduit to relieve parental stress. Calling cops will escalate the situation. Kids become pretty stressed after being strip searched and thrown into a cell by themselves. That's the LAST thing a mentally-ill child needs to have happen.

JMO
 
  • #397
I just have to say, my kids are home safe. I don't think I've ever had a more tense day waiting for school to let out. My son's class of 25 was down to 17 today. A lot of kids just didn't come to school. I understand. The principal sent home a letter. It's very non-specific, but it does invite parents to call and ask about anything re: the school safety plan, and invites parents to call if their children are affected by news of the tragedy. In those cases, individual counseling at no cost will be arranged.
It also says that if parents would rather explain this to their children, rather than risking them hearing mis-information from other kids at school, classes are non-mandatory for the rest of the week and any absences will be excused from now through the end of the holiday break. I hope that other districts offer at least this, if not more, where necessary.

On that note, we have a Christmas movie to watch, candy canes to eat, peppermint chip cookies to bake, and I need a break from all this. Back later.
 
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My brother is like that, and my mom, bless her dear departed heart, made sure to be completely "up" on sports so she could talk scores with him every day. Sometimes it was the only time he spoke at all.

I can fully understand her yearning for a connection. I can't understand trying to do it over something that could potentially be dangerous to her son and others. Whatever your stance on gun control, the simple fact us that guns are weapons and its questionable judgement to expose an unstable person to them. If he could not feel or express love for those closest to him then why in the world is he going to care about hurting strangers.
As much as I don't understand some of her choices I can't help but feel for her in the sense she was left to deal with this kids massive issues alone. The father hadn't spoken to AL or been involved in years. He slid away like he was coated with Teflon and started a new life with a new wife.
 
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I wondered about that, but with so many people monitoring him during school? And it sounded like he was one of those kids who just flew under the radar and went more or less unnoticed, more than was a target... no one has mentioned that he had social problems of that nature. Also he killed LITTLE kids. Not really the bullying age kids (I think 7-8 grade as the peak for that).

I'd like to know if he was ever bullied and in time we might find out.

I don't know that he targeted these precious little ones because they were children. He might have done it because they couldn't defend themselves, not because he was mad at them. He was just plain angry, perhaps.

Has the person he had conflict with the day before said much yet? I was gone much of the weekend and missed it if they did. I read last week that he had gone to the school and had a conflict with 4 people and 1 wasn't there during the killings.
 
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BREAKING: Conn. gov calls for moment of silence and churches to ring bells exactly 1 week after shooting -RJJ
 
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