Connecticut school district on lockdown after shooting report at a Newtown elemen #6

[Lois Lane]

This has probably already been posted but is anyone following this?

Honoring Sandy Hook Victims with Acts of Kindness
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/18/15999109-if-you-do-good-youll-feel-good-ann-curry-explains-origins-of-26acts-of-kindness?lite

https://twitter.com/AnnCurry

Awesome!

Thank you!

 

[Lois Lane]

sbm

Please note: I woke up so angry about AL's vicious and heinous attack on those helpless innocent victims. Perhaps I should have waited until I moved beyond my anger before I posted at all today. Apologies to all.

:hug:

 

[pamelahl1]

MOO - Adam's condition was deteriorating and so was his mother's.

He was her world, and her - his.

Talk of college, being independent - even if she moved "close by" was extremely upsetting to him.

Her MS was probably getting worse and seeing her get sicker and all of the talk of becoming "independent", father and brother had been cut out of his life, "Who will take care of me?"...
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Fear. The fear of being "abandoned". The fear of being "alone". The fear of all of the unknown in AL's small world.

Is it possible that he felt he was going to take these precious babies with him and his mother to the afterlife where he would, in his twisted mind, have lots of little friends & his mother with him for eternity? Little ones are so loving, and trusting & pure. Little children are so full of joy, acceptance and love. Unconditional love.

Could it be that in his own tortured mind that he was also "giving" his mother the "gift" of always having these lovely children by her side, as well? Children that were not like him....children that were "normal" and not as much "work" as he always was?

No "explanation" or theory will ever make this horrendous act acceptable, or excusable in any way, ever. What AL did was horrible. I do believe in pure evil here on earth but with AL...I just don't feel it ~ KWIM?

Perhaps I feel the way I do because my son is autistic.

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

As reported on Fox just now,

The Newtown basketball team is going ahead with their game tonight...and I love this! NO MEDIA allowed, other than the normal, local media that normally covers their games. Yay!

JMO

 

[MyBelle]

She just had her son admitted to a locked psych unit (where he will be put on medications and likely not just one medication). If she strongly encouraged his doc or an ER doc to admit him to a psych unit earlier (sometimes you have to stretch the truth a little bit, or over emphasize, if you KNOW your loved one is dangerous, but others don't see it), he would have been given medication that helped his impulse control problems. He may have never have pulled a knife on her or threatened anyone else once on appropriate medication.

I have a feeling that AXXX's mom felt she could handle his problems all by herself. This is NEVER the case with someone who is severely mentally ill. Family members benefit from resources and mental health workers working WITH them.

BBM. This is the most baffling part of it all for me. The Mom could have taken care of A and probably had a much easier time doing it if only she had tapped into the resources available to her. Of course, she would have had to pay for them and had enough income to do so yet she didn't. None of it makes sense unless you look through a rather cynical prism.

JMO

 

[Elley Mae]

http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/...-Will-Lead-Sandy-Hook-Students-184028191.html

When Sandy Hook students return to class on Jan. 2, they will be greeted by a familiar face.

Donna Page, a former Sandy Hook principal who is now retired, will take over as principal, NBC Connecticut's Amanda Raus has learned.

 

[passionflower]

lol
In college (when dinosaurs ruled the earth) I was grilling some yummy steaks and noticed a huge wasp nest directly above the grill. I didn't have wasp spray so dummy me decided to use my can of mace. It melted the wasps and then blew back on me. It is very disabling! Something like mace, pepper spray, or wasp spray would disable a shooter temporarily, but wouldn't kill any child. I think it is a good idea for teachers and professors.

always aim for the eyes...........throw anything at the eyes..........my husband was USMC survival training.......eyes are so sensitive. Person will drop anything and try to get to their watering eyes. Even if it is dirt, sand.

 

[Glow]

Please note: I woke up so angry about AL's vicious and heinous attack on those helpless innocent victims. Perhaps I should have waited until I moved beyond my anger before I posted at all today. Apologies to all.

I can sure understand that feeling. :twocents:

The other poster and myself were talking about the mother who wrote the blog post that ended up in the Huffington Post. One of us saw her situation as having clear cut solutions and the other as it being murky and complicated.

So we were just discussing that back and forth a bit.

If you are like me Quester, this thread is flying so fast its hard to reply in a conversational style sometimes.

Hope your day feels better as it goes along.

 

[FragileSugar]

Awesome!

Thank you!

Thank you for sharing! I will be sharing this with all I know and making sure to spread kindness in memory of the children and teachers.

 

[Isabelle]

How far back do we know about AL's strange behavior? I think an elementary schoolmate talked about him being different. Was he treated, we don't know. I think his mother protected him. The fact that the father could not have any say in AL's upbringing after the divorce speaks volumes to me!

 

[ami]

Respectfully, we don't know what she did or didn't do. She didn't have him put in an institution. Could have been because the waiting lists to get him in are literally months to years long and many times, no matter how much money you have, if your insurance won't cover it, you aren't getting through the door. We don't know if he was under treatment of any kind of doctor because HIPAA prevents the release of any kind of record of that nature, even now that he's dead. Even if she put him under the care of a doctor, if you don't show up or refuse to participate in your own treatment, many of them will simply remove you from their patient rolls. She couldn't drag him to the doctor kicking and screaming, he was an adult. Even if she did, she couldn't force him to talk.

He was an adult. He was not in school. There is very little that she could have done about her son's condition, at the age he was at. In fact, she would have had very little she could do for the past two years, so I really don't see why everyone keeps blaming her.

Idon't know if anyone has read Danielle Steele's memoir/memorial to her son Nick Traina - who was diagnosed with biopolar disorder from a young age, but also had ADHD, impulse control, some learning disabilities, etc (but was brilliantly smart, charming, talented, etc) -- one thing she did was to hire two psychiatric attendants for him so that he would always have eyes on him to help, restrain, communicate problems as they were developing. Now his story has a sad end (happened after the attendants were no longer used regularly) and his mental issues were much different than AL's, but the idea of hiring attendants, should the parent be well off enough to afford such help, might actually have been a small help to both AL and NL herself, since he seemed to require so much care but NL seemed to want to keep his life at home, rather than in an institution.

 

[Isabelle]

Have AL and NL's bodies been claimed yet?

 

[wfgodot]

Have AL and NL's bodies been claimed yet?

New Hampshire funeral home to claim body of Nancy Lanza, medical examiner says (registercitizen.com)

Apparently hasn't been done yet though. No word on AL.

 

[MyBelle]

How far back do we know about AL's strange behavior? I think an elementary schoolmate talked about him being different. Was he treated, we don't know. I think his mother protected him. The fact that the father could not have any say in AL's upbringing after the divorce speaks volumes to me!

BBM. I don't believe that is a fact. I think the father continued to be consulted after the divorce and had joint custody until the child became an adult.

JMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Have AL and NL's bodies been claimed yet?

I dont know about AL but Nancy's body is going to be sent back to her hometown where she was raised. The ME said they have been in contact with the person making the request.

I dont have a link handy Isabelle. I read it somewhere this morning.

IMO

 

[human]

This is where it all falls apart. $$$$$$$$$$ - One thing I noticed. It was all volunteers that are helping to ready that closed school for the students of Sandy Hook. People will help. Parents that own or run companies could "donate" a little labor here or a fence there and even write it off as charity (well maybe - but I think they should be able to).

Instead of giving to these monstrous charities that end up only giving the actual recepients 25 cents on a dollar - donate to each other.

Education is expensive and really doesn't make anybody any money - certainly not a "capitalist" venture - KWIM? But if we all got together it could be done. After all - this is our future here....

I agree, but we are talking millions of dollars.

Charity donations have very specific rules as they should

I know of well to do people who will not donate to something unless there is a write off.

People on here are asking for all kinds of security things for schools. Many schools are in a total state of degradation that a working bathroom would be a miracle upgrade.

The taxpayers have been asked to pay and they don"t want to. So what do you do?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

New Hampshire funeral home to claim body of Nancy Lanza, medical examiner says (registercitizen.com)

Apparently hasn't been done yet though. No word on AL.

I dont believe the ME will divulge any info on AL and who is going to bury him or where.

He only spoke out imo about Nancy because she is a victim.

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Firstly Fox reported the same...

Then the pastor said the opposite ( look here: Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Connecticut school district on lockdown after shooting report at a Newtown elemen #6 )

And now Fox is saying the same again, lol

At least now they are mentioning that investigators are considering this theory... Personally, i also think that this could be the motive .. or part of it .. who knows, exactly anyhow, what was going on in the head of that "genius"

I dont think Fox is going by the words of Justin but by their contacts with LE there who have confirmed that is the motive they are looking at.

IMO

 

[Isabelle]

BBM. I don't believe that is a fact. I think the father continued to be consulted after the divorce and had joint custody until the child became an adult.

JMO

Not sure why the divorce mediator stated this and gave the judges name that made this a part of the settlement, that mom had complete and sole responsibility for AL's upbringing.

 

[ami]

This has probably already been posted but is anyone following this?

Honoring Sandy Hook Victims with Acts of Kindness
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/18/15999109-if-you-do-good-youll-feel-good-ann-curry-explains-origins-of-26acts-of-kindness?lite

https://twitter.com/AnnCurry

I think this is such a sweet way to feel like we can bring even a small amount of joy into the world in direct remembrance of the people who died so tragically. My daughter thought it would be nice to compile a list of the things each of the kids loved to do, so she and her friends could direct their acts towards things each of the victims would have done very naturally as part of their lives. So far, in honor of the girl who loved horses, they've spent an afternoon at their stable crazy-grooming the older (cranky and ornery!) blind pony that most of the stable kids are scared to go near. They gave her apples and peppermints and tethered her well so they could groom her in a way she seldom gets nowadays... then gave her the pleasure of allowing a long roll in the dirt to take the edge off all that cleanliness! I'm sure the pony was like.. wtf...? but hopefully she secretly loved all the attention.