Connecticut school district on lockdown after shooting report at a Newtown elemen #6

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  • #921
MOO - Adam's condition was deteriorating and so was his mother's.

He was her world, and her - his.

Talk of college, being independent - even if she moved "close by" was extremely upsetting to him.

Her MS was probably getting worse and seeing her get sicker and all of the talk of becoming "independent", father and brother had been cut out of his life, "Who will take care of me?"...
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Fear. The fear of being "abandoned". The fear of being "alone". The fear of all of the unknown in AL's small world.

Is it possible that he felt he was going to take these precious babies with him and his mother to the afterlife where he would, in his twisted mind, have lots of little friends & his mother with him for eternity? Little ones are so loving, and trusting & pure. Little children are so full of joy, acceptance and love. Unconditional love.

Could it be that in his own tortured mind that he was also "giving" his mother the "gift" of always having these lovely children by her side, as well? Children that were not like him....children that were "normal" and not as much "work" as he always was?

No "explanation" or theory will ever make this horrendous act acceptable, or excusable in any way, ever. What AL did was horrible. I do believe in pure evil here on earth but with AL...I just don't feel it ~ KWIM?

Perhaps I feel the way I do because my son is autistic.

I just wanted to say.. this post is angelic. You are able to see things with a kindness in your soul that not many of us are capable of right now. Thank you, thank you for that.
 
  • #922
http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/...-Will-Lead-Sandy-Hook-Students-184028191.html

When Sandy Hook students return to class on Jan. 2, they will be greeted by a familiar face.

Donna Page, a former Sandy Hook principal who is now retired, will take over as principal, NBC Connecticut's Amanda Raus has learned.

Awwwww! Bless her heart! That should be comforting for the children seeing a familiar face. Very nice of her to come out of retirement to be with these children.
 
  • #923
Not sure why the divorce mediator stated this and gave the judges name that made this a part of the settlement, that mom had complete and sole responsibility for AL's upbringing.

I don't have the article handy but I believe it said the Judge gave them joint custody. iow, while NL had the final say, his father did have input.

JMO
 
  • #924
I dont think Fox is going by the words of Justin but by their contacts with LE there who have confirmed that is the motive they are looking at.

IMO

Thank you, yes.

I saw the confusion yesterday, here, when people were criticizing Fox about only taking the pastor's son's word on it (and then the pastor was criticizing Fox)...but in several of those very same articles, down further, it clearly stated they were also confirming it through a LE source.

JMO
 
  • #925
From what I remember reading she tried to hide all the children and knew this monster was coming to her class next. When he approached she told him that the rest of her class was in the auditorium. As to why her classroom door was not locked, idk.

The teacher was new.

In my school district, after Columbine we had a lockdown once a month.

Thank goodness we only had a couple incidents that turned out to be false alarms, but with that much training, it does become a little easier to act in a crisis.

I am NOT IMPLYING anything because this teacher was a true hero, but she may have totally freaked out and forgotten about the key and just thought about protecting the children.

PROTECT THE CHILDREN PROTECT THE CHILDREN her mind is screaming.
 
  • #926
Firstly Fox reported the same...

Then the pastor said the opposite ( look here: Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Connecticut school district on lockdown after shooting report at a Newtown elemen #6 )

And now Fox is saying the same again, lol

At least now they are mentioning that investigators are considering this theory... Personally, i also think that this could be the motive .. or part of it .. who knows, exactly anyhow, what was going on in the head of that "genius" :rolleyes:

LE is considering many theories. I don't believe AL's mother was going to put him into any facilities.
IMO, the woman was in denial about her son and his future and probably envisioned him going to college.
 
  • #927
BBM. I don't believe that is a fact. I think the father continued to be consulted after the divorce and had joint custody until the child became an adult.

JMO

I did read although the divorce was not a pleasant one the foremost and important part for both of them was seeing that Adam was taken care of...

The problem though Adam was no longer a child. He was an adult.

IMO
 
  • #928
I dont know about AL but Nancy's body is going to be sent back to her hometown where she was raised. The ME said they have been in contact with the person making the request.

I dont have a link handy Isabelle. I read it somewhere this morning.

IMO

I can't imagine why her mother or brother would not claim her body. She was a victim and not directly responsible for what happened. They spoke highly of her in the interview I saw. Anyone have any ideas? jmo
 
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Thank you, yes.

I saw the confusion yesterday, here, when people were criticizing Fox about only taking the pastor's son's word on it (and then the pastor was criticizing Fox)...but in several of those very same articles, down further, it clearly stated they were also confirming it through a LE source.

JMO

The only thing fox "confirmed" through LE source is that LE is considering this theory. They could be considering this theory among many other theories.
 
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The teacher was new.

In my school district, after Columbine we had a lockdown once a month.

Thank goodness we only had a couple incidents that turned out to be false alarms, but with that much training, it does become a little easier to act in a crisis.

I am NOT IMPLYING anything because this teacher was a true hero, but she may have totally freaked out and forgotten about the key and just thought about protecting the children.

PROTECT THE CHILDREN PROTECT THE CHILDREN her mind is screaming.

Didn't one of the reports say something like... one of the teachers realized she could not get the door locked, so she hid the children instead... (I don't recall which teacher this was, and didn't specify why she couldn't lock the door - jammed? no key?e etc)
 
  • #933
I did read although the divorce was not a pleasant one the foremost and important part for both of them was seeing that Adam was taken care of...

The problem though Adam was no longer a child. He was an adult.

IMO

I agree with you but he was also an adult who sounds like he was still under the total control of his mother. At this point, we don't know if Adam really refused to see his father or his mother simply told his father that. I'm having a hard time believing these stories that she told AL she was going to institutionalize him. That would send anybody that age into a rage, imo.
 
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I can't imagine why her mother or brother would not claim her body. She was a victim and not directly responsible for what happened. They spoke highly of her in the interview I saw. Anyone have any ideas? jmo

Why do you think the mother & brother are not the ones claiming her body?

Just curious. I assumed they were the ones bringing her to her final resting place. I have heard nothing to the contrary, but might have missed something?
 
  • #936
How far back do we know about AL's strange behavior? I think an elementary schoolmate talked about him being different. Was he treated, we don't know. I think his mother protected him. The fact that the father could not have any say in AL's upbringing after the divorce speaks volumes to me!

There have been a lot of descriptions of AL's behavior when he was younger that suggest he was different, but nothing I've seen that suggested he was violent or even angry. It's not clear that he needed treatment of any kind, though perhaps some help with social skills might have been helpful.

And the divorce degree didn't say the father had no say in his upbringing. It said that the mother had the final say if they disagreed over something. But it is reported to have been an amicable divorce with good relations overall at least until the father remarried a few years ago and AL cut off contact with him. His father has not spoken out, but it is possible he knows what was going on behind the scenes, whether there was evidence with emerging violent tendencies.

Since AL was a legal adult, neither of his parents actually had legal authority over him unless he was declared incompetent to manage his own affairs.
 
  • #937
I agree with you but he was also an adult who sounds like he was still under the total control of his mother. At this point, we don't know if Adam really refused to see his father or his mother simply told his father that. I'm having a hard time believing these stories that she told AL she was going to institutionalize him. That would send anybody that age into a rage, imo.

I would think if she had been going to different places with the intent of putting AL in one of them, they would have come forward to reveal that by now. jmo
 
  • #938
Not sure why the divorce mediator stated this and gave the judges name that made this a part of the settlement, that mom had complete and sole responsibility for AL's upbringing.

It's common in a divorce settlement for one parent to be named or given the final say in matters that arise in a child's upbringing. It doesn't mean that the parents won't consult each other or are having any problems agreeing on matters related to the child's upbringing. It's just put in place should any issues arise that they can't agree on like which school should a child attend, what religious upbringing the child should have, etc. It was likely mutually agreed upon by NL and PL that she should make these types of decisions.
 
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Why do you think the mother & brother are not the ones claiming her body?

Just curious. I assumed they were the ones bringing her to her final resting place. I have heard nothing to the contrary, but might have missed something?

I am wondering if Nancy severed ties with her family as it is claim Adam chose to sever ties with with brother and Dad..
 
  • #940
Why do you think the mother & brother are not the ones claiming her body?

Just curious. I assumed they were the ones bringing her to her final resting place. I have heard nothing to the contrary, but might have missed something?

Her son Ryan is her next of kin. It is said that she will be buried in NH with her family. I also heard, forget where, that AL will be cremated. jmo
 
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