Connecticut school district on lockdown after shooting report at a Newtown elemen #8

[costalpilot]

good news...a POPULAr video game virtual kill site is calling for a 24 hour "cease fire", and the sites owner assures us that video games don't have anything to do with mass killings....

well thats good to know

turns out that the latest killer spent a lot of time pretending to kill faceless victims with his elaborate video gaming setup, but its good to know (from the owner of a video site that puts the user in a virtual kill reality, for a fee of course) that video virtual kill realities don't have anything to do with these mass murders...

they arent "games" and i refuse to call them "games"...they are video virtual kill realities and they are playing in your neighborhood right now. interestingly, in most all these realities, the killer/shooter kills faceless strangers that pop up and move eratically around him.

http://connecticut.cbslocal.com/2012/12/22/new-details-emerge-a-week-after-school-massacre/

 

[jjenny]

post 461

??? What does that mean?

 

[gngr~snap]

Sandy Hook Shooter Lanza Left Little For Investigators To Trace
December 19, 2012|By DAVE ALTIMARI, EDMUND H. MAHONY and JON LENDER, [email protected], The Hartford Courant


After a week of intensive investigation following the slaughter of 20 first graders and six women at an elementary school in Newtown, normally promising lines of inquiry have turned up little if anything to shed light on what motivated Adam Lanza, the reclusive, 20-year old gunman, to kill.

A preliminary examination of his cellular telephone showed that he had made or received few, if any calls, investigators and others familiar with the matter said. No information has yet emerged from investigators on any possible text messages he may have sent or received.

bbm
:doh: it just hit me!
He didn't/wouldn't talk!
hmm...

no, I guess there was no activity on his phone.

 

[gngr~snap]

I found some newer reporting some of you might want to read..this seems to say AL's video games were interactive with other gamers


Lanza had two bedrooms in the house, including one in the basement in which he kept his computer, his computer video games and other possessions. Lanza had thousands of dollars worth of video games and preferred to play on his computer with other anonymous gamers, investigators said.

By destroying his hard drive investigators will not be able to trace what games he was playing, who he was playing with and, more importantly, whether he gave anybody forewarning of the horrific violence he unleashed. Anything he may have written on his computer that could have provided a glimpse into Lanza's thinking also would be irretrievable.



http://articles.courant.com/2012-12...219_1_home-computer-investigators-video-games

Gamers are or WERE discussing it on blogs.

 

[time]

??? What does that mean?

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[jjenny]

Police audio and dispatch confirmation linked in my initial post about the car.

They read the license plate. When do they say who the car is registered to?

 

[panthera]

I found some newer reporting some of you might want to read..this seems to say AL's video games were interactive with other gamers


Lanza had two bedrooms in the house, including one in the basement in which he kept his computer, his computer video games and other possessions. Lanza had thousands of dollars worth of video games and preferred to play on his computer with other anonymous gamers, investigators said.

By destroying his hard drive investigators will not be able to trace what games he was playing, who he was playing with and, more importantly, whether he gave anybody forewarning of the horrific violence he unleashed. Anything he may have written on his computer that could have provided a glimpse into Lanza's thinking also would be irretrievable.



http://articles.courant.com/2012-12...219_1_home-computer-investigators-video-games

This in itself indicates he knew what he was doing.



MOO

 

[JBean]

The report of her supposedly seeking conservatorship comes from fox news that interviewed a guy who appears to be repeating some rumors he he heard and admits as much. So, not convincing at the least.

OH I don't disagree jjenny. IF we accept it there would be doctors involved, imo.

But even more interesting is if the report is false and she was not seeking conservatorship it begs my original question, what did NL think his problems were? Was she using new information, old information, bad information or was this behavior all completely new? I think all are possible and reasonable.
From the little bits we have learned about her, I believe she would be seeking medical/professional treatment for her son in one way or the other. I have mentioned many times on this board that I did not medicate my epileptic son for many many years (ages 2 to 18) and initially had a hard time getting support from the medical community. Professionals are not always correct and sometimes parents do what they think is best based on their own research and their own child. Ultimately I did get support and I am glad I did it it. But as he grew older and the epilepsy escalated he was medicated and is now unmedicated again at 25. Point is it was a moving target and we adjusted as more things presented themselves.
Was NL doing something similar in terms of adjusting her actions based on new information? or was she rolling with a childhood diagnosis and not adjusting with the times.
In short- what did she think was going on and was that based on her own conclusions or was she seeking the advice of professionals? I don't think we know the answers to any of those questions.

 

[HastingsChi]

Where is the information that the car is registered to someone else ("a felon") coming from? I've seen that rumor on conspiracy sites only.

Just listening to the police audio and doing my own research based on the identified name, that name in CT residents (current/recent), Lexis Nexis search of that name, collaboration of Lexis Nexis info with all other info and viola; you can verify it with solid evidence.

 

[sorrell skye]

Police audio and dispatch confirmation linked in my initial post about the car.

Yup - I listened to it, as well.

All I can say right now is :what:

 

[Tennlyn]

Just listening to the police audio and doing my own research based on the identified name, that name in CT residents (current/recent), Lexis Nexis search of that name, collaboration of Lexis Nexis info with all other info and viola; you can verify it with solid evidence.

In some states the license plate goes with the car when it is sold. Maybe Adam's car was bought used from that guy and the registration was not updated properly.

 

[HastingsChi]

I've seen that rumor on conspiracy sites only.

Respectfully snipped by me

The thing that scares/baffles me about conspiracy sites is that they think EVERYTHING is a conspiracy. No matter what it is, somehow it's a conspiracy. That kind of silliness causes questions about their credibility IMO. ;-)

 

[costalpilot]

does anyone really think he really "sat" in his basement for two years doing nothing? i believe he immersed himself in an alternate reality that he eventually choose to act out for real.

 

[jjenny]

In some states the license plate goes with the car when it is sold. Maybe Adam's car was bought used from that guy and the registration was not updated properly.

That's what I was thinking. If the guy moved to another state, he could have sold his car to AL. AL got his driver's license and his father was supposed to pay for his car, so he could have purchased a used car for him.

 

[SmoothOperator]

"Then he sat in his basement for 2 years. Something happened.” former teacher Jennifer Huettner says.
06880danwoog.com/2012/12/21/jennifer-huettner-and-the-adam-lanza-she-knew/

The above spoken by a former teacher of 3 years says alot in these very few words, and IMO the vast majority of what transpired and transformed within AL that came to a head and culminated in such atrocities one week ago yesterday, occurred in these 2 years above spoken about, IN THAT BASEMENT!

Will we ever know the truth, or atleast a good bit of the truth of what exactly those two years in that basement consisted of besides AL completely and totally consumed with online, first person shooter games??..because while I full well believe that yes, this total unhealthy immersion in the violent video gaming world serves a role in it...it by far is not the main or core component...jmo

Will we ever know the truth of was NL working toward transitioning her son into a college, where she would slowly help him to begin to know independence, and even in some way knowing the feeling of being successful at something, anything that would effect him positively??

Or rather was it that NL was attempting to move forward with a conservatorship and much different than what she was telling people of college, that truthfully it was looking for placement of AL in some type of center or long term living mental health facility??

IMO that key question answered, alone would tell us so very much ...as each answer is indicative of two totally different things and IMO why its so important to have clarity on which that is actually true, factual, and accurate...

At this time I see nothing whatsoever that leads me, personally to believe any different than what she, herself was telling people...that they were looking into colleges, more specifically focusing toward engineering..

But I do realize there are others here at WS whom I have great respect for that feel completely opposite of what I do and believe that she was planning toward some type of mental health facility and that college was just what she was telling others..so, I do keep that option open as possible, but at this time IMO there's just not enough to know either way..again IMO this answer, alone would tell us so very much..jmo

 

[not_my_kids]

NMK, I may be wrong but although ADHD is at times co morbid with ASDs, it is not generally placed on the Spectrum. I also don't think SPD (used to be called Sensory Integration Disorder) is actually on the Spectrum, but shares many commonalities....(i just included SPD because I see a lot of this one, too)

I know there are some studies out there regarding ADHD:ADD being included as part of the spectrum, but I haven't seen anything definitive. Again, it may have recently been changed, but I know my child's dx as ADHD is not one of ASD.

And I am acronymed out! LOL

This is actually one I am working on right now. According to the school district, all of the above get thrown under the blanket title ASD. But, then again, the district can't make a full diagnosis unless the parent allows them to be fully evaluated. That's here, doesn't apply everywhere.

When my nephew was diagnosed with ADHD through his psychiatrist, they were told that the doctor "considers" it an autism spectrum disorder.

Frankly, I am not sure if it is or not, or if it is up to the doctor whether to include it as an ASD. A lot of kids, while they're waiting for a diagnosis get termed as Pervasive Developmental Delay - Not Otherwise Specified. This is definitely on the autism spectrum, as far as I know, at least that's what I was told when my son was diagnosed with it. Later that became classical autism, for us. If he had been diagnosed with ADD instead, he might not have been on the spectrum anymore, but with the original PDD-NOS diagnosis, he would have been considered to have been on the spectrum at one point or still be ASD because of the original diagnosis.

My son has always been on the spectrum, my nephew was diagnosed outright as having ADHD, but my son's best friend was diagnosed as PDD-NOS, then rediagnosed as having ADD, and he is still referred to in current records as having an autism spectrum disorder.

And they wonder why we say it is so hard to even find out what is wrong with our kids, let alone have them treated?:banghead:

 

[FrayedKnot]

Thanks for the laugh.

Seriously, maybe she was afraid he'd set the house on fire, seeing as he sometimes gets into a zone (catatonic withdrawal?) according to his past teacher.

I have to say, sometimes if I don't set my kitchen timer on when I'm cooking/baking, I too forget the stove/oven is even on and living in a big house can be even more dangerous in that regard.

No, I gotcha.

I guess I am at a loss to understand why, if someone poses a possible danger to themselves with cookware, there would be firearms kept in the home. No matter how well-secured they were. And I am not convinced they were.

That's about all I can really say without going to the other thread, KWIM?

 

[Ricki]

Thanks Ricki. Same car. Same plate number. Identified as the car the suspect drove. Registered to a different person who happens to be a felon.

Again, I fully believe that AL is the lone shooter and there is not any sort of conspiracy.

Just found the registration to be an odd anomaly and am curious about feedback from the awesome folks here at WS

I won't link but the conspiracy forums are running with this. Some way out theories.

 

[jjenny]

I won't link but the conspiracy forums are running with this. Some way out theories.

They always do.

 

[jjenny]

It is my understanding that for most of the mental/behavioral disorders there are no tests (such as a blood test, etc). They are diagnosed based on symptoms. Symptoms overlap in many of the disorders, making it hard to diagnose.