Connecticut school district on lockdown after shooting report at a Newtown elemen #8

[matou]

Peter Lanza spent time with his sons regularly after moving to Stamford, about 45 minutes from Newtown, and visited Adam every weekend until the summer of 2010, when Adam cut off ties. Peter Lanza "did a lot with his kids," Marsha Lanza said.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324731304578193890846892734.html

 

[i.b.nora]

The registration on that car is valid until 9/14/2014. Does that say anything about when it was registered?

"Registrations must be renewed biannually.

...Registrations expire upon transfer of ownership. The new owner must re-apply.

All plates remain the property of the state and shall be returned to the commissioner’s office within 10 days of the sale of the vehicle.

How did you determine the registration date of the car? Did I miss something?

And, if the plates remain the property of the state, how is it that the plates refer back to someone else? This is goofie.

So, the authorities checked the registration of the car during the 911 call. I wonder if anyone bothered to look in the glove compartment, or wherever, for 'papers'? Maybe in Connecticut they don't need to carry papers?

 

[matou]

When Peter Lanza spoke of his son, "there was no inkling of any violence" involving Adam Lanza, said John Phillips, a friend of Peter's. He said the accused shooter's father is mystified about what could have motivated his son. "[Peter] is as clueless as everybody."

Unfortunately, he did not see his son for 2 years.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324731304578193890846892734.html

 

[jjenny]

Why? There is an investigation, yes. There will be no trial. He is dead so why not release the information?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324731304578193890846892734.html

Student privacy laws.

 

[jjenny]

Unfortunately, he did not see his son for 2 years.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324731304578193890846892734.html

Rather fortunately for him, considering the person who stuck with AL (his mother) ended up shot four times in the head.

 

[matou]

Mr. Lanza's mother had again taken him out of public schools. He enrolled in classes at Western Connecticut State University. She "wanted him to have college classes," Marsha Lanza said. In Nancy's view, "he was brilliant."

But as one of the youngest people there, he was an outsider. "We tried to say hi to him every so often, and he just seemed nervous," said Dot Stasny, a classmate in an introductory German course in spring 2009.

I believe him being in University at 16 years old was a very bad idea. JMO

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324731304578193890846892734.html

 

[matou]

To bond with her son and teach him responsibility, a friend said, Ms. Lanza took Adam to shooting ranges and let him use her guns, which she had purchased legally. Some of those weapons would later be used in the Dec. 14 rampage.

Again, I believe this was a very bad idea. sigh. Not even in hindsight. JMO

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324731304578193890846892734.html

 

[jjenny]

Again, I believe this was a very bad idea. sigh. Not even in hindsight. JMO

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324731304578193890846892734.html

Well she certainly paid for it.

 

[Donjeta]

Adam Lanza was back in the Newtown school district by middle school, a silent boy usually wearing a hoodie, disconnected from his classmates, those who remember him said. But he showed no signs of violence and had no juvenile criminal record. "He wasn't a bully," said Louis Belanger, a classmate who was paired with Mr. Lanza in the 7th grade on a few class projects.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324731304578193890846892734.html

A minor detail of little importance but these people have him wearing hoodies and I thought he wore button down shirts that were too big for him.

 

[time]

After Christmas 2010, Adam Lanza had no contact with his older brother, Ryan, who had moved away for a job in New York City, according to records and a person with knowledge of the family. And three years ago, high-school classmates recalled Adam Lanza suddenly disappearing midway through high school in Newtown, Conn. "He disappeared off the face of the Earth," according to one friend.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324731304578193890846892734.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by HastingsChi
Correct me if I'm wrong, but starting high school at the age of 13 would either make the shooter: (a) a class year advanced compared to his peers IR (b) a person whose birth date falls within days/weeks before the cut off date beginning school?

The teacher said he was homeschooled in 7th and 8th grade and the article said "After 3 years Adam left Newtown, to take classes at Western Connecticut State University. Jennifer says he earned his GED there." If Adam was homeschooled in 7th and 8th grade and was at the high school for three years... that would be 9th, 10th, 11th grades, right (if he entered as a 9th grader)? So he had one year of high school to finish when he entered college and there they helped him get his GED?

Maybe I'm losing track, but apparently from other articles Adam started college at 16 (fall of 2008?). I wonder if this person meant nearly 4 years ago?

 

[matou]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324731304578193890846892734.html

A minor detail of little importance but these people have him wearing hoodies and I thought he wore button down shirts that were too big for him.

Good catch. He became more of a "nerd" in terms of how he dressed when he got to high school. He wore the same outfit everyday and I think I read that he had several pairs of the same khaki pants and green shirt. Apparently, Albert Einstein also had many of the same shirt and pants. JMO

 

[flipflop]

Why? There is an investigation, yes. There will be no trial. He is dead so why not release the information?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324731304578193890846892734.html

Schools have confidenitiality laws/guidelines in regards to student records/files.

 

[time]

I believe him being in University at 16 years old was a very bad idea. JMO

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324731304578193890846892734.html

Mr. Lanza's mother had again taken him out of public schools. He enrolled in classes at Western Connecticut State University. She "wanted him to have college classes," Marsha Lanza said. In Nancy's view, "he was brilliant."

I didn't notice the BBM last time I read this. I have to wonder if she had some unrealistic expectations of him?

 

[pepperspray]

Rather fortunately for him, considering the person who stuck with AL (his mother) ended up shot four times in the head.

I sometimes wonder if Adam shot his mother, and apparently unrecognizable from accounts I have read, her face, because of the abandonment issues that I believed he had, because his mother, Nancy, had a face lift and the latest venture is she went to a pretty nice resort day's before Adam went into a rage and took it out on the school. Like it was adding up in his head and he went into survival mode, because nobody cared if he had a pulse!

 

[matou]

Adam’s mother Nancy would drop him off, then sit in the next room while Jennifer worked with him.

“He was very OCD. He’d clean the desk with Purell,” Jennifer remembers.

“He had a great ‘Latin mind.’ The language is very structured, and that fit well with him. He always knew the answers — but he wouldn’t say anything.

http://06880danwoog.com/2012/12/21/jennifer-huettner-and-the-adam-lanza-she-knew/

 

[Donjeta]

What is the basis of your absolute confidence AL was the lone shooter? Has LE made that statement of fact? Thanks!

By the end of the day Friday, investigators said they were confident that the suspected shooter was Ryan Lanza's 20-year-old brother, Adam, and that he acted alone. Any reports that another suspect fled the scene in a purple van were unfounded, they said.

http://www.chron.com/newtownshooting/article/911-Sandy-Hook-call-shows-confusion-chaos-4129396.php

None of the survivors whose interviews we have seen said anything about anybody else being there.

 

[Xavier]

I'M A XAVIER UNIVERSITY ALUMNI IN CINCINNATI,OH

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HERE'S THE LINK

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/xavier/files/2012/12/robinson_martin_sandyhook.jpg

 

[matou]

Interesting:

One explanation for why officials are keeping cards close to the vest is that the school district will likely face a big pile of very substantial lawsuits, especially if Lanza’s computer activity showed he was planning his attack and had made specific threats that were known to school officials.
This could explain why the principal recently added new security measures preventing visitors from entering the building without permission.

Read more: http://www.enterprisenews.com/topst...on-shooting-motive-is-troubling#ixzz2FpQpGqtS

 

[SouthAussie]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Foxfire
Have a link, LinasK?

In California, for example, the number of patients in state mental hospitals reached a peak of 37,500 in 1959 when Edmund G. Brown was Governor, fell to 22,000 when Ronald Reagan attained that office in 1967, and continued to decline under his administration and that of his successor, Edmund G. Brown Jr. The senior Mr. Brown now expresses regret about the way the policy started and ultimately evolved. ''They've gone far, too far, in letting people out,'' he said in an interview.

http://www.nytimes.com/1984/10/30/science/how-release-of-mental-patients-began.html?pagewanted=all

 

[i.b.nora]

These snippets from this December 16th LA Times article:

Connecticut shooter would 'just shut down' in high school
Adam Lanza was prone to 'episodes' of withdrawal, even in the tech club he enjoyed, says a former advisor. He began taking college classes at 16.December 16, 2012|By Shashank Bengali, Molly Hennessy-Fiske and Kim Murphy, Los Angeles Times

"John Bergquist, who got to know Nancy Lanza at a neighborhood bar where both were regulars, described her as a New Hampshire farm girl turned sophisticate, a Red Sox fan with season tickets who traveled to ride hot air balloons, attend jazz concerts in New Orleans, and visit friends in London, New York and San Francisco, sometimes taking her older son Ryan along.

She drove a silver BMW. She also hunted with falcons.

Bergquist remembered going with Nancy Lanza to see another friend from the bar who was having trouble getting a turkey back into its coop. After watching the struggle, he said, Lanza — who was elegantly dressed — "lifted the gate, walked in, grabbed the turkey by the feet and said, 'This is how you do it.'"

Lanza had a soft side when it came to her younger son, he said.

"She always spoke very lovingly about him. She was devoted to him, catering to him and his limitations," he said. "He wasn't troubled or violent in any way — he was a normal kid with a disability. … He had trouble being with people."

Nancy Lanza appeared to have made the decision to move so that Adam could attend college in another state. She started looking at schools in Washington state and North Carolina.

"She was willing to uproot her life," Bergquist said. "Nancy pretty much made it clear that she needed to be with him because he couldn't handle being on his own."

At Western Connecticut, Adam Lanza did not work toward any major or degree, said college official Paul Steinmetz, and was still on the rolls at the time of the shooting, though not actively enrolled.

Few remember him."

More, of course, at the link. In light of the current conversation, I was particularly interested in the things I bolded.