Connecticut school district on lockdown after shooting report at a Newtown elemen #8

[jjenny]

AL wasn't on a "slow side." His intelligence was normal.
It's the social interactions he had problems with. Which is the opposite of "Forrest Gump."

 

[pepperspray]

"A “longtime” family friend said Lanza had a condition “where he couldn’t feel pain.”

“A few years ago when he was on the baseball team, everyone had to be careful that he didn’t fall because he could get hurt and not feel it,” said the friend. “Adam had a lot of mental problems.”

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Congenital insensitivity to pain with anhidrosis (CIPA), also called hereditary sensory and autonomic neuropathy type IV — is an extremely rare inherited disorder of the nervous system which prevents the sensation of pain, heat, cold, or any real nerve-related sensations (including feeling the need to urinate); however, patients can still feel pressure.

Cause

CIPA is caused by a genetic mutation which prevents the formation of nerve cells which are responsible for transmitting signals of pain, heat, and cold to the brain. The disorder is autosomal recessive. It does not appear to have any particular ethnic distribution, though it is more prevalent in cultures in which intermarriage is an accepted practice. Overheating kills more than half of all children with CIPA before age 3.
Congenital insensitivity to pain with anhidrosis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[pepperspray]

AL wasn't on a "slow side." His intelligence was normal.
It's the social interactions he had problems with. Which is the opposite of "Forrest Gump."

We are all social creatures and need to get out and interact with people for a health of mind and body. Meeting people, learning new things, being active and engaging with friends is what makes life fun. Let’s step back from the media devices we use for entertainment and communication and let’s start to socially interact with people. Get up, get out, and have some real Social Interactions!

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[Donjeta]

The only thing I've read was when a former classmate(Diaz is his name) of AL's ran into Nancy around 2009-10 and when he asked her about AL, she told him AL was spending alot of time at the shooting range.

Maybe NL thought the gun hobby was good for him because as far as I can figure out it was just about the only thing that got him out of the house voluntarily?

 

[Donjeta]

"A “longtime” family friend said Lanza had a condition “where he couldn’t feel pain.”

“A few years ago when he was on the baseball team, everyone had to be careful that he didn’t fall because he could get hurt and not feel it,” said the friend. “Adam had a lot of mental problems.”

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Congenital insensitivity to pain with anhidrosis (CIPA), also called hereditary sensory and autonomic neuropathy type IV — is an extremely rare inherited disorder of the nervous system which prevents the sensation of pain, heat, cold, or any real nerve-related sensations (including feeling the need to urinate); however, patients can still feel pressure.

Cause

CIPA is caused by a genetic mutation which prevents the formation of nerve cells which are responsible for transmitting signals of pain, heat, and cold to the brain. The disorder is autosomal recessive. It does not appear to have any particular ethnic distribution, though it is more prevalent in cultures in which intermarriage is an accepted practice. Overheating kills more than half of all children with CIPA before age 3.
Congenital insensitivity to pain with anhidrosis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Insensitivity to pain is also associated with autism spectrum disorders.
http://www.autism-help.org/introduction-asperger-autism.htm

 

[Charlie09]

We are all social creatures and need to get out and interact with people for a health of mind and body. Meeting people, learning new things, being active and engaging with friends is what makes life fun. Let&#8217;s step back from the media devices we use for entertainment and communication and let&#8217;s start to socially interact with people. Get up, get out, and have some real Social Interactions!

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I think this is an overly simplistic answer to someone that has a hardwired brain disorder.

 

[Donjeta]

Everything that I have read seems to indicate that meeting people and having social interactions was more likely to be a cause of anxiety and stress for AL, rather than an experience that made life fun. No doubt it would have been good if he had got help that made it easier for him to engage with friends. But it seems like he needed a more professional support network than just a membership in a writing circle.

 

[Elley Mae]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...be1cbc-4956-11e2-820e-17eefac2f939_story.html

Investigators have learned through interviews with friends of Lanza&#8217;s mother that he spent his days in the windowless basement of the family&#8217;s $600,000, 3,100-square-foot house, sitting in front of a screen, anonymously playing violent video games with people he did not know.

His mother had friends who adored her and saw her frequently, yet they had never been to her house, never met the son she spoke of so warmly.

There was a quiet depth to him that I couldn&#8217;t penetrate.&#8221;

At the party, Nancy Lanza approached Wipprecht, evidently worried about her own son.

&#8220;I got into a long talk with his mother,&#8221; Wipprecht said. &#8220;She was concerned about Adam. He was obviously very bright and very shy. She was worried he wasn&#8217;t doing as well as he should be.&#8221;

Wipprecht was surprised by the level of Nancy&#8217;s concern. &#8220;I didn&#8217;t see autism there,&#8221; she said.

Novia also knew Adam through the high school&#8217;s tech club, which brought together teens who played computer games and wrote programming code.

Adam left school around the time his parents finalized their divorce.

The father, who saw Adam regularly on weekends during the years of separation, remarried in 2010,

Friends and relatives said Adam cut off contact with his father and his brother, Ryan, around that time.

Adam hadn&#8217;t spoken to his father or older brother in at least two years, according to the source who has been in touch with the Lanza family last week.

In 2010, Adam got a driver&#8217;s license but did not go out by himself often.

&#8220;One time he was ill, and he just didn&#8217;t want her in the room. So she stayed outside all night on the carpet of his bedroom. He periodically would say: &#8216;Are you there? Are you there?&#8217; And she&#8217;d always say, &#8216;Yes, I&#8217;m here.&#8217; So he wanted her there to some degree, but not in his exact, immediate space.&#8221;

More recently, Nancy had told friends this fall that she was considering moving Adam to Washington state to enroll him in a school that she believed could help him.

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[Donjeta]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...be1cbc-4956-11e2-820e-17eefac2f939_story.html

From the same:

The weapons were for “self-defense,” said Marsha Lanza. “She lived alone. She was a female, lived alone.”

I suppose it says something about her and Adam's relationship if NL and/or relatives considered her to be a female living alone when in fact she lived with a young six-foot adult male.

 

[Elley Mae]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/heartbreaking_smiles_ms_soto_class_mIAtV7NpFzD81i36jbTcvK

Heartbreaking smiles: Ms. Soto&#8217;s class photo

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[cluciano63]

Maybe NL thought the gun hobby was good for him because as far as I can figure out it was just about the only thing that got him out of the house voluntarily?

We don't know, really, if she offered other alternatives, or just took him along on her own hobby.

 

[Donjeta]

We don't know, really, if she offered other alternatives, or just took him along on her own hobby.

Yeah, who knows.

This quote from a former school mate makes it sound like he was interested in it voluntarily on his own and not dragged there by his mother every time:

So those few years later, seeing Adam Lanza's mother, Diaz just had to ask: How are things going with Adam?

"When I talked to Nancy that time, about how he was doing, she said he's been going to the (gun) range a lot recently," Diaz told CNN. "That he'd taken that up as a hobby."

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/12/16/us/connecticut-nancy-lanza-profile/index.html

But who knows how accurately NL's response is paraphrased.
It must not have been very recently that this conversation took place (CNN says "a while ago") since didn't the ATF say he hadn't visited gun ranges in the last six months? (Unless he told mom he was going to the gun range but was really going somewhere else.)

 

[CHERIE.T]

Between the times the police went screeching up to the house for evidence, no one seeing him in public, and this alarming emaciation my imagination is running wild. Could NL really be the only person who had seen this boy in years?? What on earth was going on in that house???

I agree ....something was probably going on in that house .....but what? Do we really want to know? IMO

 

[Phesey]

Lanza, who was about 6 feet tall, weighed barely 110 pounds!

His weight (or lack of) may have helped push him over the edge. Someone I love dearly has been hospitalized for Anorexia three times. I've been to the treatment centers and therapy sessions.
When anorexics get too thin their brains stop functioning normally. Without the proper nutrition the brain can't work right. It can take weeks and months of supervised "refeeding" to get the brain chemistry back to normal.
I don't mean to imply that anorexics are dangerous to anyone but themselves. But, starving his brain may have pushed this already very disturbed person over the edge.

 

[HastingsChi]

Killer’s bro: ‘I miss him’
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/killer_bro_miss_him_UBnKkkMyeD6oCL13RIWiAL

“I am a victim,” Ryan Lanza, 24, told The Post yesterday in a Facebook chat. “I loss [sic] my mom and brother.”

In a Facebook photo tribute, Ryan Lanza shared a smiling image of his younger brother, Adam, lounging in a long-sleeved shirt and a pullover tee.

“R.I.P.,” he wrote.

“I will miss you bro. I will always love you as long as I live,” Lanza posted.

Lanza also posted a picture of his mother, Nancy, 52 (above). In it, she looks carefree as she sweeps blonde curls away from her eyes and laughs.

“I miss you mom. I love you so much. You will be always in my heart,” he wrote.

Later in the article it mentions:

On Lanza’s Facebook page, one poster wrote that Adam Lanza deserved to “rot in hell” and was the “scum of the earth.”

Ryan Lanza responded sharply to the post.

“I am so tired of people blaming me for something my brother did. I love Adam, his [sic] my brother,” he wrote.

“But you have no right to call my brother names when he isn’t here no more. Just let my brother rest in peace. Please. Respect that.”

Look forward to other WS take on this article; I'm still trying to figure out how I feel about it...

 

[cluciano63]

Killer’s bro: ‘I miss him’
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/killer_bro_miss_him_UBnKkkMyeD6oCL13RIWiAL



Later in the article it mentions:



Look forward to other WS take on this article; I'm still trying to figure out how I feel about it...

Not sure I would engage with the public, or speak to the media this soon. I don't think anyone is ready to hear that right now and replying on fb is never a good idea. Wonder why his page is not private.

 

[HastingsChi]

What is the basis of your absolute confidence AL was the lone shooter? Has LE made that statement of fact? Thanks!

My basis for my opinion is based in the facts as they are known now and while I've re-examined both the live coverage and LE/EMS/Fire audio I have found nothing concrete to logically prove that there were other perpetrators involved or that the shooter was somehow set-up. Therefore, given the void of solid evidence, IMO AL is the lone shooter.

IMO one of the wonderful things about WS is the shared-learning from each other and respect for all opinions, ideas and perspectives. I have and continue to learn from other websluether's; that's what makes this place great.

 

[~n/t~]

Killer’s bro: ‘I miss him’
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/killer_bro_miss_him_UBnKkkMyeD6oCL13RIWiAL



Later in the article it mentions:



Look forward to other WS take on this article; I'm still trying to figure out how I feel about it...

Ryan Lanza's FB is set to private so I'm not sure where these alleged tributes were posted. The picture on his FB page isn't even the same one shown in the article.

 

[mister happy]

I came across an interesting Youtube video of Robbie Parker, father of one of the slain children. It shows him right before speaking to the press. Parker comes out laughing and smiling, then he appears to be getting into "character." He starts breathing deeply, changing his facial expression from happy to sad. The video is not hard to find on Youtube. It has been posted several times. Of course, people are coming up with weird ideas about this, but still, I find Parker's behavior odd. Check out the video and see what you think.

 

[HastingsChi]

Not sure I would engage with the public, or speak to the media this soon. I don't think anyone is ready to hear that right now and replying on fb is never a good idea. Wonder why his page is not private.

I agree completely cluciano63. I can't say what it is like to be in Ryan's shoes: his name & image inaccurately identified globally as the shooter, coming to terms with his brother's actions, likely questioning what he could have done differently, the loss of his mother, etc. Add that to the inter-connected world we live in where social media is connected to our mobile devices, email accounts, computers and the likelihood of constant, consistent pressure from media for Ryan to make a statement and his friends likely offering a spectrum of opinions on what he should do/say.

From a public relations viewpoint IMO Ryan might have decided that if he just says something that maybe they'll be satisfied and let him be for a while. IMO and understanding of the media's modus operandi "opening the door just a little" might result in even more pressure for comment.

Still trying to determine how I feel about "what he said" but after reading your post cluciano63 I was able to develop my thoughts from a public and media relations standpoint; so thanks for your post!