Conrad Murray trial -Day one.

[MaryAnn]

Blanket, need I say more?

He might have called his son Blanket, but he certainly wasn't a Casey Anthony! He loved his children and tried to protect them. You cannot deny that!

 

[Inspector Gidget]

We don't know what when on his home and I don't adhere to tabloids.I watched the special on Oprah with the kids,they seem to be smart,articulate,and loved their father.They talked about him with the utmost respect.Celebrity lives are different from other people.They are exposed to the media and not really normal in a sense as we know.I watched This Is It on video and I can tell you right now,no 50 year old I know could keep up with these 20 yr olds.He was a musical genius and his performances were outstanding.Propofol was what destroyed him.I feel so bad for the kids they adored him

 

[Soulmagent]

He might have called his son Blanket, but he certainly wasn't a Casey Anthony! He loved his children and tried to protect them. You cannot deny that!

No he wasnt CA. He also isnt alot of other people. He is no me either . Not father of the year is what I was agreed with. BTW he protected them from normal while completely engaging them in the abnormal.That is a personal opinion.

 

[Inspector Gidget]

A good watch:http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/michael-jacksons-kids-oprah-winfrey-normal-dad/story?id=12087134

 

[mck16]

MJ died under the care of Murray, and apparently from the combination of propathal (sp) and other meds. But, how do we know that this was the first time MJ had ever used this for his sleeplessness. Where would he even come up with this idea to use it? And another fact that was brought out was that during the day the doc went home to sleep, it sounded like he was only there at night. Is that right? And if so, how do we know what MJ did during the day. They said no one was allowed into the house. Lots of questions for me. jmo

 

[panthera]

I don't see how that even matters as propofol was not a drug to be used in a home setting, and not for sleep inducement as an insomnia aid. Nor were there informed consent and monitoring charts...so it won't matter if Michael Jackson begged and his entire future in the entertainment field was on the line - a physician should not have been so negligent as to supply the propofol, administer it, and leave the patient with access to a dangerous and restricted drug.

BBM

Those are my exact thoughts also. It doesn't matter what the "patient" wants, as a medical doctor, he should have known the proper use of Propofol, which is an anesthetic, which is properly used with monitoring in a hospital operating room.

MOO

 

[Inspector Gidget]

It is true we don't know all the facts,but why did MJ have Propofol in his possession? As a doctor you have a medical oath and to prescribe Propofol in this setting other than a hospital where he would be constantly monitored is unethical.I don't know if another doctor had gave this to MJ,but the fatal dose was prescribed from Conrad.Bottom line. If I went to my doctor and asked him to give me Propofol,he would throw me out of the office and tell me good luck,but then I don't have 150,000 a month to give him or am I a famous celebrity

 

[Inspector Gidget]

What I cannot believe is why they allowed that tape of the slurred speech and how can they prove it is MJ.Did he have witnesses? Or was that another patient of his ? I would have had that tape thrown out.I can't understand a word he is saying and does not even sound like him.Even if it was,to me it was beyond patient and doctor privilege.

 

[Isabelle]

MJ died under the care of Murray, and apparently from the combination of propathal (sp) and other meds. But, how do we know that this was the first time MJ had ever used this for his sleeplessness. Where would he even come up with this idea to use it? And another fact that was brought out was that during the day the doc went home to sleep, it sounded like he was only there at night. Is that right? And if so, how do we know what MJ did during the day. They said no one was allowed into the house. Lots of questions for me. jmo

I think MJ was given propafol in Germany years ago by an anesthesiologist for inability to sleep, even though the drug is not intended for that purpose.

 

[mymeow]

Article in the Daily Mail has the audio clip of Michael in May 2009.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ays-defence-claims-singer-killed-himself.html
So incredibly sad! I have no doubt it is him.

 

[Soulmagent]

What I cannot believe is why they allowed that tape of the slurred speech and how can they prove it is MJ.Did he have witnesses? Or was that another patient of his ? I would have had that tape thrown out.I can't understand a word he is saying and does not even sound like him.Even if it was,to me it was beyond patient and doctor privilege.

I was under the impression that is the part of the tape they want to draw attention to for opening. I think the rest of the recording might make it clear it was Micheal Jackson.

I am sure the defence tried but to get it tossed but it is relavent undeniably so even.

 

[Soulmagent]

Now I remember why I wasnt following the case. Everytime I see an article where any member of the Jackson family speaks , I blame them. It isnt fair or right but I do it.

I just read this link

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2042506/Michael-Jackson-trial-Jermaine-claims-secret-grief-caused-strange-behaviour-This-Is-It-launch.html

And found issues with alot of things he said including..

During television and radio interviews in LA last week, Jermaine compared the anesthetic Propofol – the cause of Michael’s death – to a gun, saying: 'This sedative is like a gun. In the right hands, it should be safe. In the wrong hands, it is lethal. With Dr Murray, it was in the wrong hands. He was there to take care of Michael, not take his life.

Like it was completely okay for Micheal to take Propofol ,yet someone elses fault when the what can happen does happen.

I will have to purely look at this case from the angle that the doctor was unethical, and that helped Micheal Jackson die, an alot of other people contributed to his death as well. IMO.

 

[legalmania]

I was under the impression that is the part of the tape they want to draw attention to for opening. I think the rest of the recording might make it clear it was Micheal Jackson.

I am sure the defence tried but to get it tossed but it is relavent undeniably so even.

I think he was going to use the tape for blackmail. He probably thought if they don't pay me I'll play the tape to his family and tell them I'm going to release it to the media, if I don't get paid. How dare he continue to over medicate his patient after knowing this was affecting his life. Greed was the motive here.

 

[UdbCrzy2]

I watched bits and pieces of the trial today. Didn't the Prosecutor say that within 2 months of Jackson's death that 2 gallons of Propofol were purchased by Murray.

Also, I thought that the Defense were trying to bring in reasonable doubt when they said that after Murray left to make phone calls that Jackson could have gotten up and gave himself more Propofol.

 

[BaileyandBella]

It was reported that when the tape was played today, the family looked at each other in shock...maybe they think it isn't him?

 

[AuburnSchnauzer]

This is really pitiful. MJ and his family and friends were all just fine and dandy with him being an addict forever as long as he was still performing.....When his own addiction finally killed him, all of a dam sudden, it becomes one doctor's problem. It would not surprise me if MJ finally wanted an end to his own madness. It is a shame because he was so talented, but it is what it is. JMO.

 

[AuburnSchnauzer]

It was reported that when the tape was played today, the family looked at each other in shock...maybe they think it isn't him?

It is called "DENIAL".....Like I said earlier, the family and friends of MJ didn't want to believe that he was an addict. But he absolutely WAS.

 

[BaileyandBella]

NO ONE can make an addict quit until they are ready/want to.

 

[AuburnSchnauzer]

I'm surprised that this message board is so low-key on this case. I think it proves that everyone knows MJ was an addict and it is unfair to try to blame his death on Dr. Murray. MJ could have injected himself with the final dose and I don't believe there is any way to prove otherwise. We will see what the jury decides. Still ticks me off that his family and friends absolutely ignored his addictions and now want to put the blame on those addictions on the doctor that may or may not have been present when he left this world.

 

[ziggy]

The tape was relevant to show knowledge - either Dr. Murray is the one who drugged MJ to that level OR he was fully aware that MJ was medicating himself to that level...either way it's bad for the doctor. Dr. M says he did not know MJ had taken other drugs, so this tape would prove that is BS. Conrad Murray was all sorts of shady in this...and it's true he was not acting as a physician but as an employee allowing his "boss" to dictate what drugs he was to have. Let me just state again so that all who think Dr. M is not culpable, he provided Propofol for Michael Jackson, without the proper monitoring devices and outside of a proper facility...nuff said!!! His negligent actions proximately caused the death of Michael Jackson one way or another - by providing the drugs and by leaving them within reach of a drug addict patient and leaving the room; or perhaps by administering them in a negligent way - doesn't matter - he did not use the standard of care REQUIRED by the law in his duty as a physician to his patient. I don't think he's a murderer with malicious intent, but I do think he is guilty of an involuntary criminally negligent homicide.