Construction Worker Theory

[rashomon]

(Rashomon)"The problem I have with ST's theory: he at one time mentioned that the injury to JB's vagina might have been some kind of a corporal punishment because of her bedwetting. But that punishment would not have killed Jon Benet. So where does the head blow come in?
In another part of his book, Thomas outlines a diffferent scenario: that the head blow came first. But this would not fit with what he said about the vaginal injury before."

I think he means the vaginal injury led to the head blow. That's what Richard Krugman seemed to think.

So according to S. Thomas, Patsy continued to be in such a rage that she even bashed JBs head in afterward?
In that case, the vaginal injury could not have been inflicted by the paintbrush imo, at least it is very unlikely. For suppose Patsy got angry at JB in the bathroom or in JB's room, would she really have run down as far as the basement and get a paintbrush to punish JonBenet?

 

[BBB167893]

So according to S. Thomas, Patsy continued to be in such a rage that she even bashed JBs head in afterward?
In that case, the vaginal injury could not have been inflicted by the paintbrush imo, at least it is very unlikely. For suppose Patsy got angry at JB in the bathroom or in JB's room, would she really have run down as far as the basement and get a paintbrush to punish JonBenet?

Oh, I see! I had you all wrong! You were talking about the brush injury (acute)! Krugman was referring to the possible prior vaginal (chronic) injuries. That's what I meant.

The CASKU guys said that the brush injury (acute injury) was not part of an attack, but part of a staged crime scene. Two different things.

But not everyone is convinced that the actue injury was from the brush. It could have been from a finger with brush material still on it.

 

[Britt]

The CASKU guys said that the brush injury (acute injury) was not part of an attack, but part of a staged crime scene. Two different things.

But not everyone is convinced that the actue injury was from the brush. It could have been from a finger with brush material still on it.

Yes, that all makes sense. Here's another sick possibility: the missing tip of the paintbrush had been broken off previously and used as a punishment tool.

Dr. David Jones, one of the medical experts consulted, said the cellulose splinter dated from an old injury (PMPT p. 560 pb).

 

[BBB167893]

Yes, that all makes sense. Here's another sick possibility: the missing tip of the paintbrush had been broken off previously and used as a punishment tool.

Dr. David Jones, one of the medical experts consulted, said the cellulose splinter dated from an old injury (PMPT p. 560 pb).

Britt, you're on my Christmas card list! You may have just helped me out!

 

[aussiesheila]

Tom Miller - American School of Investigative Services: "It is my professional opinion that Patsy Ramsey wrote the ransom note."


Cina L. Wong, Court Qualified Document Examiner: "It is my professional opinion that Patsy Ramsey very likely wrote the ransom note"

David Liebman, President of NADE, "In my professional opinion, Patsy Ramsey is the ransom note writer".

Ted Widmer, Chairman of the Grapholocial Society of San Francisco and author of the Book "Crime and Penmanship" spent days poring over samples. "Widmer echoed the conclusions of former detective Steve Thomas, who revealed that 24 of the alphabet's 26 letters (found in the ransom note) looked as if they had been written by Patsy. Her left hand-writing sample is very revealing. The word "carefully in the first line is an exact match. Same is true for the word "faction" and on an on. Most revealing are the percent signs in both Patsy's sample and the ransom note. They are a match.

Gideon Epstein - Handwriting Expert "I am absolutely certain that Patsy wrote the note. That's 100% certainty."

SERAPH profiling report: she wrote it.

Chet Ubowski: ""This handwriting showed indications that the writer was Patsy Ramsey. Ubowski told investigators that the samples she gave "do not suggest the full range of her handwriting."

Hi SuperDave, thanks for the list. Do you have a list of those who thought she didn't? Being lazy here, so I'll exploit your youthful enthusiasm. Just out of interest, as I am more convinced than GE that she wrote the note although I think the first seven sentences were dictated to her. Thanks

 

[aussiesheila]

Dr. David Jones, one of the medical experts consulted, said the cellulose splinter dated from an old injury (PMPT p. 560 pb).

I have read PMPT but had forgotten that bit of info. This is very interesting Britt. Thanks for pointing it out. No wonder JonBenet had vaginal infections.

 

[aussiesheila]

Steve Thomas was a dedicated detective who smelled a rat right from the beginning in this case. He shouldn't have leaked info to the media though.

I agree rashomon, I think he was passionate about finding her killer and worked himself to the bone to try to find answers and is to be commended for that. I don't think he was such a bad guy, he was just inexperienced in homicide and chose the wrong suspect IMO. I'm not so sure he was the one responsible for those early leaks to the media though. Where I think he went wrong was to publish that book and include erroneous 'facts' that supported his theory. Of course he did make off with some official files on the case when he left the force, which was unethical, but then just about all of the players became emotionally involved in the case and did 'bad' things as well. The pressure on them all must have been immense. I'm sure none of them were left unscathed by their experiences.

 

[aussiesheila]

The Ramseys bought the house in Boulder in 1991 for $500,000, and then spent another $700,000 in renovating it. I haven't been able to find information on when the construction work began or how long it lasted, but my assumption is that it must have lasted a couple of years. Anyone working on the renovation of the home would already know their way around it since they helped to build it. In addition to the construction workers, there would be various contractors to install plumbing and electrical wiring, along with painters and carpet layers. That would be a lot of people. I read somewhere recently that three or four of the people who worked on the home had criminal records, but I haven't been able to relocate that information.

I'm think you are probably onto something here shiloh. For me this lead is where I would go in looking for a pedophile who might have connections with others of his kind in Boulder, and who might have been in a group in the basement that night.

 

[BBB167893]

Hi SuperDave, thanks for the list. Do you have a list of those who thought she didn't? Being lazy here, so I'll exploit your youthful enthusiasm. Just out of interest, as I am more convinced than GE that she wrote the note although I think the first seven sentences were dictated to her. Thanks

Just remember: the list I gave wasn't even the full one!

Who said she didn't? Well:

Richard Dusick of the U.S. Secret Service concluded that there was "no evidence to indicate that Patsy Ramsey executed any of the questioned material appearing on the Ransom Note."

Notice he didn't say she didn't write it.

Leonard Speckin, a private forensic document examiner, concluded that differences between the writing of Mrs. Ramsey's handwriting and the author of the Ransom Note prevented him from identifying Mrs. Ramsey as the author of the Ransom Note, but he was unable to eliminate her.

He also said that the idea that someone would break in and write a note with as many similarities as this one was unlikely.

Edwin Alford, a private forensic document examiner, states the evidence fell short of that needed to support a conclusion that Mrs. Ramsey wrote the note.

IOWs, she wrote it, just can't say so in court.

Chet Ubowski said this:

Chet Ubowski of CBI wrote of one of her samples that "This handwriting showed indications that the writer was Patsy Ramsey. Ubowski told investigators that the samples she gave "do not suggest the full range of her handwriting.

And this:

"Many forensic document examiners have given their opinions as to who wrote the note. But the only one to testify before a grand jury in the case was Chet Ubowski, forensic document examiner for the Colorado Bureau of Investigation. Out of 100 people he analyzed for the Boulder Police Department, he found ONLY ONE person whom he thought may have authored the document, Patsy Ramsey. Investigative sources tell Fox News that the disguised letters and bleeding ink from the felt tipped pen used to write the note kept him from 100 percent ID of Mrs. Ramsey."

There were two others hired by the Ramseys themselves. And even they couldn't say for sure she didn't write it.