Coronavirus COVID-19 *Global Health Emergency* #11

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People are funny. When push comes to shove, people can probably figure out a toilet paper substitute, but there's no substitute for food - yet they're fighting over the toilet paper.
It’s the coveted commodity of the moment. #TpTrending
 
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Sorry. I missed the gist of this. Request to explain what this is about. Something change when flying?
You need to have a special drivers license/state ID, called Real ID or Enhanced ID, to fly - even on domestic flights - starting Oct 1, 2020.

jmo
 
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Trying to find my birth certificate would have the same results as trying to find my original Social Security card I was asked to produce for something. I finally filled out all the forms for a replacement SS card because it was impossible to find even though I knew it was somewhere. LOL

My search for my birth certificate would be about the same. LOL

My birth certificate, from a tiny obscure town in the UK looks like it was made on one of Gutenberg's first printing presses.
 
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Opinion - We need not only a popcorn eating emoji, but also an emoji, pushing a shopping cart loaded up with toilet paper.....moo

And a Survival Tater Tot emoji
 
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At WH Coronavirus briefing with Pence, Fauci now reiterating that it will take more than a year to develop a Coronavirus vaccine. (He’s now said this publicly four times since Monday)

Jim Acosta on Twitter

That sucks. Man.
 
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I think this is fair and a good idea, to limit so everyone can have some.
Yes, I agree. At my son's school, they sent home information explaining preventative steps they will be taking. Some of them include having hand sanitizer at the door for each student to use when they come in, instructions to keep your child home if they are ill, wiping down desks, chairs and surfaces every evening, encouraging frequent hand washing, and having hand sanitizer readily available in every classroom. Today, the receptionist mentioned that she was having difficulty finding any hand sanitizer. Tomorrow morning, I will let her know about the homemade version. I also heard on the local news (I'm near Clearwater, FL), that public schools will also have students use hand sanitizer when the get on the bus, and disinfect the buses each day.
 
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People are funny. When push comes to shove, people can probably figure out a toilet paper substitute, but there's no substitute for food - yet they're fighting over the toilet paper.
I watched an episode of ‘My Strange Addiction’ and this woman was addicted to eating toilet paper. :eek:
 
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QuickTake by Bloomberg on Twitter

Wearing a face mask does help if you do it properly.

Seto Wing Hong of Hong Kong University demonstrates the correct way to wear a face mask #coronavirus

Thanks for that. I wouldn’t have thought it went under the chin like that. Thanks for the link.
 
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It's like a catch 22 now - don't stock up and everyone else clears the shelves...or clear the shelves ourselves and contribute to the overbuying lol. I'm going for a midway of extra cat food (for the cat, not me!) and an extra pack of toilet paper. My pantry is already pretty well stocked. Bought my normal medication but might get an extra script filled to be safe. And I have plenty of chocolate so I'm set :p
I called in a prescription refill for my 90 year old mother today, and received a message that they could only give half of they prescribed amount, and would give the rest when it became available.
 
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That sucks. Man.
It does, but it does take a while, and many people won't trust it even after a year, let alone a shorter process. Better to focus on containment, prevention, and treatment right now in addition to vaccine development.
 
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Just confirmed that Amazon emailed its staff in the Seattle area this afternoon saying it learned that an employee in one of its South Lake Union bldgs tested positive for the coronavirus.

News will be up on @nytimes soon. 1/2
Karen Weise on Twitter
 
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I called in a prescription refill for my 90 year old mother today, and received a message that they could only give half of they prescribed amount, and would give the rest when it became available.

That's scary! Did they give you any indication when that might be? My son's inhalers went through a period of time when they were on backorder but I've gotten him a few refills to have on hand thankfully.
 
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I called in a prescription refill for my 90 year old mother today, and received a message that they could only give half of they prescribed amount, and would give the rest when it became available.

I heard on the news yesterday that there will be prescription drug shortages because necessary ingredients come from China. Some are from India, but India gets their supply from China. This isn't the first time there has bee this type of problem, but this is probably the first time that China has been out of commission for such a long time (3-4 months).
 
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"The employee went home feeling unwell on Tuesday, February 25 and has not entered Amazon offices since that time," the email said.

"We are supporting the affected employee, who remains in quarantine," said an Amazon spokesman. 2/2
Karen Weise on Twitter

ETA: 7 days ago. 7. MOO
 
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Dr. Kevin Purcell

We believe the Seattle area seeding event was ~Jan 15 and we're now ~7 weeks later. I expect Seattle now to look like Wuhan around ~1 Jan, when they were reporting the first clusters of patients with unexplained viral pneumonia.” https://t.co/8e0ZkVBdBJ

We are currently estimating ~600 infections in Seattle
“3 weeks later, Wuhan had thousands of infections and was put on large-scale lock-down. However, these large-scale non-pharmaceutical interventions to create social distancing had a huge impact on the resulting epidemic.”

“This suggests that this is controllable. We're at a critical junction right now, but we can still mitigate this substantially.”
If we implement NPIs in Seattle now (not in 3 weeks time).

When Trevor drew this illustration of potential future epidemics the same size as the one in Wuhan (after 10 weeks) neither he (nor I) realized that the lower of the two represents what was happening in Seattle (King and Sno counties). Dr Kevin Purcell on Twitter

As I just said in my last post, though, the same tactics used in Wuhan won't work for Seattle. Wuhan was the source that was exporting cases outwards. That meant that the lockdown could act like a firebreak around Wuhan/Hubei and they could put out little fires around it.

But for Seattle, if that was locked down today like Wuhan was, they'd just be importing cases from another part of the US in two to four weeks time.

I think I understand a bit better now. The prediction that a vaccine would take around 18 months meant that either the Wuhan lockdown worked, or we'd probably be looking at pandemic. So other countries could put out the little fires and keep it relatively contained in their countries by putting people into quarantine when they arrived from China with the virus. But in order to keep it out entirely, you'd have to have your entire country shut down to foreign visitors for at least the next 18 months. How many countries in the world would feel able to do that? And maybe 'we' don't really understand or appreciate why they feel that's not possible.

And as it turns out, Seattle was incubating the virus already in mid-January. If I understood some of the phylogeny charts, it was also in Italy by then and has been incubating since very early on. So it seems that the only way for 100% closure of borders to have worked would have been to close them very early on in January when the virus was barely known and no one knew much about it or its potential to cause a pandemic, or what the death rate might be if it did.

I suppose all this gives me a little better appreciation for the difficulties faced by international governments. It appears they could have been playing a no-win scenario against this virus the whole time that we've been criticising their every move :(
 
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