Coronavirus COVID-19 *Global Health Emergency* #15

[galiuro1]

I apologize I can only find it on Ian Mckay's feed (I trust him but there is still only one strange source )

 

[Deleted member 158085]

No, I don't "seem to be arguing" that. I'm saying that, as usual, there's nothing for MOST people to be concerned about. And, in this case, thankfully, not a lot to be concerned about wrt to the young.

Except that up to 50% of non-elderly Americans have pre-existing conditions of some sort. Combine that with elderly, and it may actually be that most of us (or at least half) actually do have something to worry about.

Seems cold not to be concerned about any of them, whether it’s a majority or minority.

Edited to remove previous post.

 

[Inthedetails]

Hysteria is often based on individual, unique circumstances as each of us has certain family members and friends to worry over. Elder parents, health compromised brothers and sisters, the occasional young person (daughter, son, niece, best friend) that may be affected seriously. JMO

And a general concern about how all this will affect communities, industry, health-care system, demonstration of government readiness in a crisis, etc. People's interest is not necessarily a worry they personally will get the virus. People do think beyond themselves sometimes.

jmo

 

[jjenny]

I just posted to someone else, these loved ones we are concerned with are MUCH better served if this virus is not blown out of proportion to the point where people are unnecessarily consuming resources of all types - medical and consumer. If my asthmatic child should get this virus, I don't want his ER bed taking up by some otherwise healthy person who wonders whether their runny nose and cough is Corona.

I don't think anything has been blown out of proportion. If anything, US has failed miserably to even test people who have symptoms.

 

[gregjrichards]

Three MILLION volunteers to help fight coronavirus: Health secretary to call up army of NHS reinforcements with staff allowed to switch jobs under emergency plan to battle the disease - U.K News

The Health secretary is preparing to call up an army of three million volunteers to reinforce the NHS as it battles against coronavirus.

Willing volunteers are being asked to give up a few hours so that they can be mobilised to support healthcare staff in hospitals, nursing homes and community centres across the country.

And those offering their time are expected to have their permanent job protected by legislation due to reach the commons in the coming days.

Three MILLION volunteers to fight coronavirus: Health secretary to call up army for NHS | Daily Mail Online

I don’t know if this many volunteers will come forward and put their own health at risk.

 

[galiuro1]

It isn't so much the ER beds one needs to worry about, its the ICU beds and the ventilators that we are not likely to have enough of...not to mention the doctors and nurses.

See what is going on already in Norcal and Washington...

 

[Windsorite]

I don't know what you are comparing.

Italy has had 5883 more cases in 2020 than they did in 2019. That has to be a burden on the healthcare system.

They have 16 million people under quarantine.

You just illustrated my point, there is nothing to compare it to, so you can’t say if it’s unusually high.

 

[Inthedetails]

seeing on twitter that pope and 2 aids are positive

Wow - we need to find that on MSM. That is a big development.

 

[mickey2942]

seeing on twitter that pope and 2 aids are positive

I guessed as much. Thoughts and prayers to him.

I wonder if the Vatican would allow for video conferencing instead of the cardinals meeting, if it comes to that.

 

[firebird]

I don't think anything has been blown out of proportion. If anything, US has failed miserably to even test people who have symptoms.

There's nothing to be done about symptoms other than treatments we already know about. The only reason to test is for statistics.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

I don't think the citizens of China or Italy think the "hysteria" is misguided. Of the 106,195 known cases, there were 3,600 deaths and 60,190 persons have recovered, leaving 42,405 cases undetermined. There have been reports of permanent lung damage in recovered patients.
If a little hysteria causes only 10% of the younger, less at risk population to be a little more cautious about covering their mouths when they cough or washing their hands often and those efforts result in 10% fewer elderly persons becoming infected..I am all for the hysteria.

I’m also for empathy. I don’t think everyone is capable of that, though.

 

[jjenny]

There's nothing to be done about symptoms other than treatments we already know about. The only reason to test is for statistics.

I'd say people want to know if they have common cold or covid. For one, if they know, they can self-isolate, preventing the spread.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Coronavirus: California passenger brought virus on Princess cruise

 

[OhioBlues]

You just illustrated my point, there is nothing to compare it to, so you can’t say if it’s unusually high.

Italy 2019 - 0 Cases of Covid-19
Italy 2020 - 5883 Cases of Covid - 19

Italy has 5883 more cases of Covid-19 in the 67 days of 2020 vs the entire 365 days of 2020.

 

[galiuro1]

Three MILLION volunteers to help fight coronavirus: Health secretary to call up army of NHS reinforcements with staff allowed to switch jobs under emergency plan to battle the disease - U.K News

The Health secretary is preparing to call up an army of three million volunteers to reinforce the NHS as it battles against coronavirus.

Willing volunteers are being asked to give up a few hours so that they can be mobilised to support healthcare staff in hospitals, nursing homes and community centres across the country.

And those offering their time are expected to have their permanent job protected by legislation due to reach the commons in the coming days.

Three MILLION volunteers to fight coronavirus: Health secretary to call up army for NHS | Daily Mail Online

I don’t know if this many volunteers will come forward and put their own health at risk.

At least UK is making an effort

 

[otto]

And it stays as relatively mild symptoms for most, apparently. I think it's clear a ton of people are going to get this, and the extreme majority to be negatively impacted are going to be the elderly and health compromised - as usual. The good thing about Corona is that it's generally relatively mild and that the young seem to be insignificantly impacted by it -- unlike the flu. I'm moving beyond "annoyed" to "pretty po'd" about the hysteria. jmo

Great thinking! Here's a formerly healthy 36 year old woman from Nebraska. She's just back from holidaying in the UK. Perhaps she thought the virus was overblown hype too, until it wasn't.

More on this story

 

[Richmond]

It starts off with mild symptoms, like a cold. Most people in US don't stay home because of a cold.

I thought it included fever. I started to get a cold on Wed.--stuffed sinuses, runny nose, and then traveled down to bronchial--hoarseness, coughing, etc.--but no fever. I have been staying at home for the most part, and washing hands, using hand sanitizer. But I keep reading that COVID19 includes fever from the beginning. I am in a state that has one confirmed case as of today, not in my city--not that it means anything because I'm sure it's here, just hasn't been tested yet.

 

[BingoBongo]

I've searched, and see nothing indicating that the Pope himself has tested positive. Only that he has a cold, and several (2?) others near him have tested positive.

Vatican Confirms 1st Coronavirus Case as Pope Francis Recovers From a Cold

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Wasn't he urging calm yesterday?

That headline is taken out of context and intentionally misleading.

New York Governor Cuomo declares state of emergency due to coronavirus as number of cases skyrockets | Daily Mail Online

'I'm not urging calm," Cuomo stated. "I'm urging reality. I'm urging a factual response as opposed to an emotional response... that people understand the information and not the hype.'

He added that, at present, there is no need to cancel large gatherings in any part of the state.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Hypothetically, if I was tired of hysteria and I believed there was a thread made up mainly of hysterical people, I would probably avoid that thread unless I simply wanted to troll them.