Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Emergency #5

[Hatfield]

I had not noticed that, but bingo it looks like you are right. Vir = virus?

It could be. Maybe it just means anti-virus or something along those lines.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

https://www.who.int/docs/default-so...0220-sitrep-31-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=dfd11d24_2

"China has revised their guidance on case classification for COVID-19, removing the classification of “clinically diagnosed” previously used for Hubei province, and retaining only “suspected” and “confirmed” for all areas, the latter requiring laboratory confirmation. Some previously reported “clinically diagnosed” cases are thus expected to be discarded over the coming days as laboratory testing is conducted and some are found to be COVID-19-negative."

SUBJECT IN FOCUS (UPDATE): Advanced Analytics and Mathematical Modelling - Since the publication of modeling estimates in yesterday’s ‘Subject in Focus’, one research group(Ref. 12)has provided a correction of their estimate of the Infection-Fatality Ratio (IFR), with the new estimate being 0.94%(95% confidence interval0.37-2.9). This replaces the lowest estimate of IFR of 0.33%, but remains below the highest estimate of 1.0%(Ref. 11)

 

[Henry2326]

Wow....division in the ranks.....a view of things to come..,
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Coronavirus-infected Americans flown home against CDC’s advice

In the wee hours of a rainy Monday, more than a dozen buses sat on the tarmac at Tokyo’s Haneda Airport. Inside, 328 weary Americans wearing surgical masks and gloves waited anxiously to fly home after weeks in quarantine aboard the Diamond Princess, the luxury liner where the novel coronavirus had exploded into a ship-wide epidemic.

But as the buses idled, U.S. officials wrestled with troubling news. New test results showed that 14 passengers were infected with the virus. The U.S. State Department had promised that no one with the infection would be allowed to board the planes.

A decision had to be made. Let them all fly? Or leave them behind in Japanese hospitals?

In Washington, where it was still Sunday afternoon, a fierce debate broke out: The State Department and a top Trump administration health official wanted to forge ahead. The infected passengers had no symptoms and could be segregated on the plane in a plastic-lined enclosure. But officials at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention disagreed, contending they could still spread the virus. The CDC believed the 14 should not be flown back with uninfected passengers.

“It was like the worst nightmare,” said a senior U.S. official involved in the decision, speaking on the condition of anonymity to describe private conversations. “Quite frankly, the alternative could have been pulling grandma out in the pouring rain, and that would have been bad, too.”

The State Department won the argument. But unhappy CDC officials demanded to be left out of the news release that explained that infected people were being flown back to the United States — a move that would nearly double the number of known coronavirus cases in this country.

The State Department made the call. The 14 people were already in the evacuation pipeline and protocol dictated they be brought home, said William Walters, director of operational medicine for the State Department.

As the State Department drafted its news release, CDC’s top officials insisted that any mention of the agency be removed.

“CDC did weigh in on this and explicitly recommended against it,” Schuchat wrote on behalf of the officials, according to an HHS official who saw the email and shared the language. “We should not be mentioned as having been consulted as it begs the question of what was our advice.”

Coronavirus-infected Americans flown home against CDC’s advice

 

[Henry2326]

The Westerdam, a luxurious Holland America Line ship with 2,257 passengers and crew, spent days searching for a port amid fears that it might have infected passengers aboard — even though there was no evidence of it. The ship was turned away from five ports, including Guam.

But the Westerdam finally was embraced Feb. 13 by Cambodia, a nation with close ties to China and whose authoritarian prime minister, Hun Sen, has used the coronavirus crisis to advance his country’s political interests.

Having lost a preferential trade arrangement with the European Union over human rights abuses, Hun Sen used the Westerdam as a vehicle to alter headlines and potentially improve relations with the West.

When the ship sailed into Sihanoukville last Thursday, he rolled out the red carpet. Without any protective gear — not even a mask or gloves — he greeted each of the passengers as they disembarked, shaking their hands as he passed out bouquets of flowers.

U.S. Ambassador W. Patrick Murphy also went to the dock with his family to welcome passengers. Murphy wore no face mask or gloves, and maintained little distance between himself and jubilant, relieved passengers.

They filed off and dispersed to hotels, hundreds to the luxury Sokha in Phnom Penh, a little more than 100 miles away. There, some went out to dinner, assured by Cambodia and cruise ship officials that among the 20 people who were tested for the virus, none was positive. Others took a bus tour.

More than 700 headed for the airport and flights to homes around the world.

Then came startling news. On Saturday night, an 83-year-old American woman, as yet unidentified, tested positive for coronavirus in Malaysia. Her husband, who also has symptoms of the respiratory illness, tested negative.

Suddenly, as if flash frozen, the exodus from the Westerdam halted. Hundreds of passengers and crew were ordered to remain onboard. Others retreated to the Sokha hotel, where they were asked to stay in their rooms — a request some ignored, said Christina Kerby, 41, of Alameda, Calif., who had taken the cruise with her mother.

Kerby had spent Saturday relaxing at the hotel. She went for a swim, then out to dinner, publishing photos of her meal on Twitter for followers who had been tracking her ordeal over the previous two weeks.

“It was my afternoon to relax before a long trip home,” she said.

Kerby has received blowback on Twitter for going out in Phnom Penh. Back home in Alameda, her children’s preschool asked whether she might endanger other kids when she returns. The stigma of the virus is a new feeling, she said.

On Sunday, she awoke to find a note slipped under her door informing her of the passenger’s positive test and asking that she stay in her room.

“That, for me, was the moment I lost it,” said Kerby who had been relentlessly optimistic during her cruise ship confinement. “As Americans, we’re very used to having agency over our own bodies and being able to come and go as we pleased.”

Now, health experts say, there is little to do but wait and see whether the Westerdam passengers spread the virus around the world. Some are skeptical they will see that, suggesting the single positive test result may have been erroneous.

Coronavirus-infected Americans flown home against CDC’s advice

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Wow....division in the ranks.....a view of things to come..,
_______________________

Coronavirus-infected Americans flown home against CDC’s advice

In the wee hours of a rainy Monday, more than a dozen buses sat on the tarmac at Tokyo’s Haneda Airport. Inside, 328 weary Americans wearing surgical masks and gloves waited anxiously to fly home after weeks in quarantine aboard the Diamond Princess, the luxury liner where the novel coronavirus had exploded into a ship-wide epidemic.

But as the buses idled, U.S. officials wrestled with troubling news. New test results showed that 14 passengers were infected with the virus. The U.S. State Department had promised that no one with the infection would be allowed to board the planes.

A decision had to be made. Let them all fly? Or leave them behind in Japanese hospitals?

In Washington, where it was still Sunday afternoon, a fierce debate broke out: The State Department and a top Trump administration health official wanted to forge ahead. The infected passengers had no symptoms and could be segregated on the plane in a plastic-lined enclosure. But officials at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention disagreed, contending they could still spread the virus. The CDC believed the 14 should not be flown back with uninfected passengers.

“It was like the worst nightmare,” said a senior U.S. official involved in the decision, speaking on the condition of anonymity to describe private conversations. “Quite frankly, the alternative could have been pulling grandma out in the pouring rain, and that would have been bad, too.”

The State Department won the argument. But unhappy CDC officials demanded to be left out of the news release that explained that infected people were being flown back to the United States — a move that would nearly double the number of known coronavirus cases in this country.

The State Department made the call. The 14 people were already in the evacuation pipeline and protocol dictated they be brought home, said William Walters, director of operational medicine for the State Department.

As the State Department drafted its news release, CDC’s top officials insisted that any mention of the agency be removed.

“CDC did weigh in on this and explicitly recommended against it,” Schuchat wrote on behalf of the officials, according to an HHS official who saw the email and shared the language. “We should not be mentioned as having been consulted as it begs the question of what was our advice.”

Coronavirus-infected Americans flown home against CDC’s advice

Well, well. I had expressed here an opinion as I assumed they were in the box? Guess not.

 

[MJPeony]

I almost don’t believe the TEST is reliable anymore. Am I being too alarmist?

But really, what is up with these tests- people testing positive and they feel great, and people testing negative but having all the symptoms?


Oh, and the CCP constantly changing how they are defining positive cases. Chest scan, no chest scan, sometimes the scan shows it but not always, etc etc.



MOO.

 

[jjenny]

Well, well. I had expressed here an opinion as I assumed they were in the box? Guess not.

Nope, just behind plastic sheet. Now some others that were on the plane are also testing positive.

 

[ARE]

Have there been any credible articles/commentary on whether or not people can be reinfected?

Also this seems to be kind of a long haul virus... respiratory distress hit around day 5-10 of symptoms.... and then longer to recover.

I’m afraid for our healthcare systems.

 

[jjenny]

‘It’s an Absolute Joke’: Redwood City Man Blasts CDC After Contracting Coronavirus


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CDC didn't want positive people to fly into US, but I guess decision was made to do it anyway. Who decided to do it?
But the guy they were talking about in the article was probably already infected before he even got on the plane, because the article says he got swabbed as he was leaving the ship and his tests results just came back. So sounds like there were infected people allowed to leave the ship, who haven't tested positive yet, just as I suspected from the description of the supposed quarantine.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Wow....division in the ranks.....a view of things to come..,
_______________________

Coronavirus-infected Americans flown home against CDC’s advice

In the wee hours of a rainy Monday, more than a dozen buses sat on the tarmac at Tokyo’s Haneda Airport. Inside, 328 weary Americans wearing surgical masks and gloves waited anxiously to fly home after weeks in quarantine aboard the Diamond Princess, the luxury liner where the novel coronavirus had exploded into a ship-wide epidemic.

But as the buses idled, U.S. officials wrestled with troubling news. New test results showed that 14 passengers were infected with the virus. The U.S. State Department had promised that no one with the infection would be allowed to board the planes.

A decision had to be made. Let them all fly? Or leave them behind in Japanese hospitals?

In Washington, where it was still Sunday afternoon, a fierce debate broke out: The State Department and a top Trump administration health official wanted to forge ahead. The infected passengers had no symptoms and could be segregated on the plane in a plastic-lined enclosure. But officials at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention disagreed, contending they could still spread the virus. The CDC believed the 14 should not be flown back with uninfected passengers.

“It was like the worst nightmare,” said a senior U.S. official involved in the decision, speaking on the condition of anonymity to describe private conversations. “Quite frankly, the alternative could have been pulling grandma out in the pouring rain, and that would have been bad, too.”

The State Department won the argument. But unhappy CDC officials demanded to be left out of the news release that explained that infected people were being flown back to the United States — a move that would nearly double the number of known coronavirus cases in this country.

The State Department made the call. The 14 people were already in the evacuation pipeline and protocol dictated they be brought home, said William Walters, director of operational medicine for the State Department.

As the State Department drafted its news release, CDC’s top officials insisted that any mention of the agency be removed.

“CDC did weigh in on this and explicitly recommended against it,” Schuchat wrote on behalf of the officials, according to an HHS official who saw the email and shared the language. “We should not be mentioned as having been consulted as it begs the question of what was our advice.”

Coronavirus-infected Americans flown home against CDC’s advice

Another article from the NY Post:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost...ck-to-us-on-plane-full-of-healthy-people/amp/

 

[jjenny]

I almost don’t believe the TEST is reliable anymore. Am I being too alarmist?

But really, what is up with these tests- people testing positive and they feel great, and people testing negative but having all the symptoms?


Oh, and the CCP constantly changing how they are defining positive cases. Chest scan, no chest scan, sometimes the scan shows it but not always, etc etc.



MOO.

I believe it's pretty obvious the test is not highly reliable. Some people tested negative numerous times (like the doctor who eventually died) before testing positive. Disease seems to start with mild symptoms that in some people progress to fatal pneumonia. So people who are feeling great might still get very sick.

 

[jjenny]

I almost don’t believe the TEST is reliable anymore. Am I being too alarmist?

But really, what is up with these tests- people testing positive and they feel great, and people testing negative but having all the symptoms?


Oh, and the CCP constantly changing how they are defining positive cases. Chest scan, no chest scan, sometimes the scan shows it but not always, etc etc.



MOO.

I believe it's pretty obvious the test is not highly reliable. Some people tested negative numerous times (like the doctor who eventually died) before testing positive. Disease seems to start with mild symptoms that in some people progress to fatal pneumonia. So people who are feeling great might still get very sick.

 

[jjenny]

So-called quarantine was a joke. They kept infecting each other while being quarantined. Counting 14 days and then letting people out when infections were being discovered daily makes zero sense. There are likely a whole bunch of infected people that were allowed into US, like the guy who just tested positive, and he is being told there is no hospital for him? No hospital already? What are they going to do when more people test positive, which appears pretty much a given?

 

[JerseyGirl]

2 Australian passengers from quarantined cruise ship test positive

Two out of 164 Australians who were flown back from the Diamond Princess cruise ship have tested positive.

None of them displayed any symptoms and did not test positive for the virus in Japan. After they were screened again in Australia, six of them began to display minor respiratory symptoms and fever, and two were subsequently confirmed.

Coronavirus live updates: China's Hubei reports 115 additional deaths

 

[jjenny]

2 Australian passengers from quarantined cruise ship test positive

Two out of 164 Australians who were flown back from the Diamond Princess cruise ship have tested positive.

None of them displayed any symptoms and did not test positive for the virus in Japan. After they were screened again in Australia, six of them began to display minor respiratory symptoms and fever, and two were subsequently confirmed.

Coronavirus live updates: China's Hubei reports 115 additional deaths

Big surprise. Not. And there is a bunch of the passengers running around in Japan, as far as I can tell, including a bunch of Americans. Japan really screwed up here, as far as I am concerned.

 

[margarita25]

Wow....division in the ranks.....a view of things to come..,
_______________________

Coronavirus-infected Americans flown home against CDC’s advice

In the wee hours of a rainy Monday, more than a dozen buses sat on the tarmac at Tokyo’s Haneda Airport. Inside, 328 weary Americans wearing surgical masks and gloves waited anxiously to fly home after weeks in quarantine aboard the Diamond Princess, the luxury liner where the novel coronavirus had exploded into a ship-wide epidemic.

But as the buses idled, U.S. officials wrestled with troubling news. New test results showed that 14 passengers were infected with the virus. The U.S. State Department had promised that no one with the infection would be allowed to board the planes.

A decision had to be made. Let them all fly? Or leave them behind in Japanese hospitals?

In Washington, where it was still Sunday afternoon, a fierce debate broke out: The State Department and a top Trump administration health official wanted to forge ahead. The infected passengers had no symptoms and could be segregated on the plane in a plastic-lined enclosure. But officials at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention disagreed, contending they could still spread the virus. The CDC believed the 14 should not be flown back with uninfected passengers.

“It was like the worst nightmare,” said a senior U.S. official involved in the decision, speaking on the condition of anonymity to describe private conversations. “Quite frankly, the alternative could have been pulling grandma out in the pouring rain, and that would have been bad, too.”

The State Department won the argument. But unhappy CDC officials demanded to be left out of the news release that explained that infected people were being flown back to the United States — a move that would nearly double the number of known coronavirus cases in this country.

The State Department made the call. The 14 people were already in the evacuation pipeline and protocol dictated they be brought home, said William Walters, director of operational medicine for the State Department.

As the State Department drafted its news release, CDC’s top officials insisted that any mention of the agency be removed.

“CDC did weigh in on this and explicitly recommended against it,” Schuchat wrote on behalf of the officials, according to an HHS official who saw the email and shared the language. “We should not be mentioned as having been consulted as it begs the question of what was our advice.”

Coronavirus-infected Americans flown home against CDC’s advice

Hmmm...

 

[JerseyGirl]

HUMBOLDT COUNTY, Calif. —

Humboldt County Department of Health ... has received confirmation of one case of COVID-19 in a Humboldt County resident. A close contact who has symptoms is being tested as well.

This marks the first confirmed case of the novel coronavirus in Humboldt County.

Presently, the ill individuals are doing well and self-isolating at home, while being monitored for symptoms by the Public Health Communicable Disease Surveillance and Control Unit.

First case of novel Coronavirus confirmed in Humboldt County

 

[jjenny]

So, bottom line, US and Australia are already discovering infected people who haven't tested positive previously. Japan let a bunch of people out of the ship and let them go into the public, and I think it's pretty much a guarantee some of these people would now test positive. All righty then.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

HUMBOLDT COUNTY, Calif. —

Humboldt County Department of Health ... has received confirmation of one case of COVID-19 in a Humboldt County resident. A close contact who has symptoms is being tested as well.

This marks the first confirmed case of the novel coronavirus in Humboldt County.

Presently, the ill individuals are doing well and self-isolating at home, while being monitored for symptoms by the Public Health Communicable Disease Surveillance and Control Unit.

First case of novel Coronavirus confirmed in Humboldt County

Had to look on a map, city included in that county is Eureka (Jodi Arias old home) I guess the health departments are no longer stating if the new person is a contact of a previous one, or their travel history? Wonder what the background on this person was to catch the virus.

 

[Auntie Cipation]

Had to look on a map, city included in that county is Eureka (Jodi Arias old home) I guess the health departments are no longer stating if the new person is a contact of a previous one, or their travel history? Wonder what the background on this person was to catch the virus.

Yes, I too wanted to see what route to infection was listed for this person, and how long they'd been out and about in their community (plus any travel) between their exposure and their symptoms. So far it had seemed that all identified victims were either China travellers, cruise ship folks, or direct close contact with someone in one of those categories. I will find it scary once people are coming up infected without a direct and identified route!

Humboldt is getting closer to home for me, lots of folks in my area have connections there.

Also, off topic but Jodi Arias was from Yreka, in Siskiyou County, not Eureka in Humboldt County...