Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Emergency #5

[gitana1]

Wow, I feel like things are blowing up today. Makes sense I guess- it’s been now 2-3 weeks since the travel started shutting down in places.

OT a bit, and I may have an unpopular feeling here, but this news about the prisoners is really sad IMO. Because there are SO many of them now, it will not being contained, and I am certain they will get terrible care. We know how the “un-imprisoned” are being treated over there, one can only imagine how the prisoners are treated. They will essentially be left for dead. No effort at all will be made to help them IMO.

I’m all for justice, but with a virus like this, it’s sad IMO that so many will be left to suffer. And we don’t know what they are even imprisoned for (i.e. I doubt they all deserve the DP). MOO MOO.

Especially in a country like China. It could be anything they’re jailed for.

I read a yahoo article yesterday that was worrying. It quoted experts who stated this thing is right on the verge of being uncontainable.

 

[margarita25]

I wonder if this is what happened to the dinosaurs...

(JK)

 

[mickey2942]

Placebo effect

I dont think it's going to help you if you have Influenza or COVID-19

It is just interesting that almost every single letter of the alphabet put in Amazon search bar, brings up something related to flu. I didn't even know what this stuff was...

 

[Herat]

It is just interesting that almost every single letter of the alphabet put in Amazon search bar, brings up something related to flu. I didn't even know what this stuff was...

Well, if its homeopathic it isn't anything except "one molecule" of this Oscillococcinum stuff that is some concoction of duck liver and heart in water. It probably has more native arsenic in it than the extract.

 

[otto]

I believe Iran has reported 28 infections?

With 6 fatalities, that brings the fatality rate to 21%

And UAE has reported 13 cases, 2 of which are linked to Iran

So once again: How do 11 people in UAE get infected with this virus?

Iran started by announcing deaths, rather than confirmed cases. If 2% of people die from the virus, 3 weeks for coronavirus to result in death, and there are 6 deaths already in Iran, then there are probably a few thousand cases in Iran. The question I have is whether Iran is un-reporting, or are they unaware.

Other countries that are silent about confirmed cases are the ones to pay attention to, such as those in Africa and South America. That is the weak link to a pandemic.

 

[margarita25]

Coronavirus Public Service Announcement

I haven't seen any PSAs wrt to COVID-19 on tv?

No, but WS members suggested it for a SuperBowl ad.

 

[Henry2326]

Well that moved in the wrong direction....
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BREAKING: Epicenter of coronavirus outbreak reports 630 new cases and 96 new deaths Tracking coronavirus: Map, data and timeline

BNO Newsroom on Twitter

 

[otto]

Here is confirmation. Its behind a paywall for me but in the seconds I could see it, I don't think it lists the locations. Take a look and see if you can see it.

Italy to Ban Travel for Certain Virus-Affected Areas, Conte Says

From the link:

"Italy’s Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte said he’ll ban travel to and from the areas of the country which have been affected by the coronavirus outbreak as the number of cases surged to 76.

All work activities, public events and schools have been shut in the affected areas, the prime minister said at a press conference in Rome after cases were reported in five different regions."

A family has been quarantined in Codogno, in the northern region of Lombardy, where dozens of cases have been identified, he said. Conte also announced laws that will allow ministers to intervene as needed to contain the outbreak, such as stopping sporting events or closing schools.

The Schengen Agreement, a free-movement treaty covering about 26 European countries, won’t be suspended, he said."​

 

[otto]

I wonder if this is what happened to the dinosaurs...

(JK)

I wondered that too a couple of weeks ago. All speculation has been on meteor and climate as causing dinosaur extinctions. I don't think I've ever heard a strong theory about a viral outbreak, but now it seems like a viable option. Not kidding.

 

[mickey2942]

I am watching the "Titanic" right now, they just hit the tip of the iceberg.

Why do I see a correlation between this movie and COVID-19?

 

[Windsorite]

I suspect that there are cases of COVID19 in Mexico, Central and South America, but they are undiagnosed as "COVID19"

There may well be, getting these areas up to speed on the testing was only completed yesterday.

https://www.paho.org/hq/index.php?o...gnosis-of-new-coronavirus&Itemid=1926&lang=en

 

[Betty P]

Well that moved in the wrong direction....
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BREAKING: Epicenter of coronavirus outbreak reports 630 new cases and 96 new deaths Tracking coronavirus: Map, data and timeline

BNO Newsroom on Twitter

Just curious, sorry if OT, but what is BNO News? I've only seen it in the links here. It seems to be accurate and all, just wondering what kind of news service it is. TIA

 

[galiuro1]

I'm in San Diego, about 50 miles from border. The large caravans have been stopped by our administration and Mexico's agreement. That is huge news rarely covered. It is now small leaks instead of a constant tidal wave.

My son lives/works in Seal Beach (very south LA area); I don't to be more scared for him or for myself and family in Arizona 60 miles from the border...

 

[Herat]

Well that moved in the wrong direction....
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BREAKING: Epicenter of coronavirus outbreak reports 630 new cases and 96 new deaths Tracking coronavirus: Map, data and timeline

BNO Newsroom on Twitter

Does anyone actually believe anything China is reporting right now?

 

[otto]

One case of coronavirus somewhere in the carnival crowd, lack of safe water ... what are the chances! If there's one case, the virus will explode in Brazil in two weeks. People who can afford it will very likely flee to other countries for treatment. That's quite an alarmist view, but not impossible.

"As the official Carnival celebrations kick off in the Brazilian city of Rio Saturday, potable water has become a valuable commodity, especially in the peak of summer when temperatures hit 120 degrees F.
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On Feb. 3, the crisis hit a new low, and the whole treatment center of Guandu was closed due to the presence of a detergent in massive quantities. It's not clear where the compound came from, but specialists said the source is probably industries outside Rio and blamed heavy rain.
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The crisis, however, hasn’t scared international visitors, according to City Hall. Hotel occupancy is up to 90 percent. Argentinians and Americans lead the population of foreign tourists for Carnival. Tourism representatives are nonetheless worried about the lack of information provided to those who come."​

Carnival begins in Rio, but tourists will face contaminated water

 

[margarita25]

This ship disaster won't go away.....it keeps on giving.

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Just days after releasing nearly 1,000 passengers from the cruise ship quarantined for two weeks in the port of Yokohama that has been a coronavirus hot spot, Japan’s health minister admitted that 23 passengers had been mistakenly cleared to leave without taking a valid recent test.

In a news briefing on Saturday night, the health minister, Katsunobu Kato, apologized for the mishap, in which the passengers left the ship, the Diamond Princess, on Wednesday and Thursday although they had not been tested for the coronavirus since before the ship went into lockdown on Feb. 5.

In certifying that the passengers posed “no risk of infection,” the Japanese Health Ministry said it had tested them and checked for symptoms as they disembarked.

Mr. Kato said that all 23 mistakenly cleared passengers had left the ship and boarded some form of public transportation. He said none of them had reported any symptoms so far and 20 had already agreed to be retested, with three negative tests so far.

Coronavirus Live Updates: W.H.O. Team Heads to Wuhan as Its Leader Warns Africa

Oh boy...

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Wow. Wonder if they commandeered the cruise ships from the companies that owned them. How did they get the cruise ships I wonder.

Not a good plan IMO. Didnt they learn anything from the Princess Cruise ship fiasco. Cruise ships are not a good place to keep people safe from the Virus.

"China is bringing in seven cruise ships to house medical workers in Wuhan, state media reported."

China coronavirus outbreak: All the latest updates

SMDH

 

[Henry2326]

Just curious, sorry if OT, but what is BNO News? I've only seen it in the links here. It seems to be accurate and all, just wondering what kind of news service it is. TIA

Here ya go....they are on it...,,

BNO News - Wikipedia

 

[margarita25]

Yes, that's essentially the problem. The medical term is AARDS ( Adult Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome). It is a very severe problem.

One means of treatment that reportedly has been tried in China is ECMO: ( ExtraCorporeal Membrane Oxygenation). Something like cardiac bypass where your blood supply is shunted outside your lungs into a membrane system where your blood can be oxygenated and returned back to your bloodstream. Lots of risk, expensive, complex method. See the JAMA (Journal of American Medical Association) article below.
JAMA cites 15-30% with radiologic findings of viral pneumonia will go on to develop AARDS.

Preparing for the Most Critically Ill Patients With COVID-19: The Potential Role of ECMO

I saw something related to this re: Dr. LW, making note...something about “pumping through an artificial lung” (iirc)..

 

[asyousay]

My son lives/works in Seal Beach (very south LA area); I don't to be more scared for him or for myself and family in Arizona 60 miles from the border...

OT

I would love to visit seal beach as they used to film a tv show called Sunset beach there in the 00’s and I used to come home and watch it on tv every night when I was a kid.

 

[Amonet]

Re: conspiracy theory,

https://nypost.com/2020/02/22/dont-buy-chinas-story-the-coronavirus-may-have-leaked-from-a-lab/

Don't buy China's Story: ...


Lab-Made Coronavirus Triggers Debate

Lab-Made Coronavirus Triggers Debate


A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence. - PubMed - NCBI

A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence

"Shi ZL [4]
Author information
4 Key Labratory of Special Pathegens and Biosafety, Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, China."

I watched one of Dr Seheult's medcram videos on YouTube today that discussed a study done on bats and coronaviruses in China, and wanted to know the nature of coronaviruses carried by the bats, and how easy it would be for those viruses to jump into the human population, and how 'ready' the viruses were for human-to-human spread.

The results, according to Dr Seheult...there are hundreds of different coronaviruses already in bats, and already spreading to humans in little villages in China. And they're going human-to-human already!

The only thing that's stopped them becoming epidemics and then pandemics, until now, is that they've been jumping from the bats to the humans in these little villages that aren't conducive to massive spread between humans.

And the bats in the study didn't even have a 'middle' animal in the bat-human transfer.

Sorry, that first one is just an opinion piece. It has zero scientific value.

I think this assumption that 'killer viruses' are made in labs is a result of our living further from nature these days, and not understanding just how easy it is for viruses to spread from animals to humans, combined with our love of Sci Fi thrillers where viruses only come from labs. People end up thinking that a virus that lives in humans can only live in humans, a virus that lives in bats needs help to infect a human and can't do it without the intervention of a human in a lab.

I'm sorry if I sound so annoyed about this, but it does hit a nerve. It gives me the same feeling as the anti-vax movement and the "eat a natural diet to cure yourself of cancer" webpages that are plastered in ads for 'natural cures' to make money, and in that way not so much different from the Big Pharma that they abhor.