Coronavirus COVID-19 *Global Health Emergency* #7

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  • #841
The first case in CA confirmed was Sacramento county on 2/21.
The person traveled back from China on 2/2 and self isolated where he began experiencing mild symptoms. He was diagnosed on 2/21. If you add 14 days to his arrival date, that is 2/16 to be contagious with symptoms.
Officials confirm 1st case of coronavirus in Sacramento County; patient in isolation

Now we have a second patient in Solano County diagnosed on 2/26. Counties are adjacent to each other. If you work backwards for at least 14 days, he contracted around 2/12 and was contagious primarily in the same period as the first patient.

The Diamond Princess patients flew into Travis Air force Base on 2/16, so the virus was in the area before they got there.

We learned from Hubei and Italy that the explosion of cases occur about 3-4 weeks after first cases present. So we should expect an explosion in Northern CA the first 2 weeks of March.

Just me thinking, but Its likely that the virus was in the area before the Ship patients arrived.....and there are more in that area.

All my estimates.....IMO
 
  • #842
Most of China restarted working Feburary 25th.
It will be interesting to see if cases start increasing or not. Hoping for not.

Vik Bataille on Twitter


Hong Kong (CNN Business)Some US companies are bracing for the revenue they make in China to be cut in half if the novel coronavirus outbreak extends into the summer.

Nearly half of US companies in China expect revenue from the country to fall this year if businesses can't return to normal before the end of April, according to a survey by the American Chamber of Commerce in China conducted earlier this month. And about a fifth of US companies said 2020 revenue from China will plummet by more than 50% if the epidemic extends through the end of August.
 
  • #843
me too
my pets are family and just as important as human family members
Count me in. I won't even stand up if one of my cats is sleeping on any part of me.
I sure hope this doesn't escalate and create a panic against animals. It's so scary to think about it, along with all the people that are and will be affected.
 
  • #844
Most of China restarted working Feburary 25th.
It will be interesting to see if cases start increasing or not. Hoping for not.

Vik Bataille on Twitter


Hong Kong (CNN Business)Some US companies are bracing for the revenue they make in China to be cut in half if the novel coronavirus outbreak extends into the summer.

Nearly half of US companies in China expect revenue from the country to fall this year if businesses can't return to normal before the end of April, according to a survey by the American Chamber of Commerce in China conducted earlier this month. And about a fifth of US companies said 2020 revenue from China will plummet by more than 50% if the epidemic extends through the end of August.
 
  • #845
And this worries me lots
Coronavirus live updates: Up to 100 health workers exposed to Solano County patient
and the whistle blower story about workers lacking training to deal with the situation (didn’t read the entire thing so moo)

and the economic day to day stuff. And the economic big stuff.
It gets worse. They weren't tested, they went back out into the public, stayed in hotels, flew on planes and returned to their communities and work places. Possible (and this is my opinion but also based on news reports I've been listening to all night on CNN and MSNBC) link to the woman who is critically sick in CA.
 
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  • #846
I don't mean to be an alarmist, but it sounds like there are a lot of pockets of suspected virus in the USA, yet the international number count don't reflect those numbers. Italy and Iran had outbreaks, now London,

Asia is hooped, how bad is it? Do 24 year olds just get really sick, sicker than they've ever been before, and tail off with brochitis, barely avoiding pneumonia - does the lifespan tailspin mean 24 year olds get this contagious virus and live to 60, 70 instead of 90, 100?

I would hope that even if this vaccine doesn't work that by the time the 24 yr old gets to 60 that there would either be a successful vaccination regime a la yearly influenza vaccines, or improved antiviral drugs!
 
  • #847
The US has its first novel coronavirus-related drug shortage

From CNN Health’s Jen Christensen

The United States has its first novel coronavirus-related drug shortage, according to the US Food and Drug Administration.

The maker of an unnamed drug that has recently been added to the FDA Drug Shortages list told the agency that the shortage is due to the coronavirus.

On Tuesday, the FDA warned that these types of shortages could happen, and said it was monitoring the situation closely. The agency identified 20 drugs that either solely sourced their active pharmaceutical ingredients, or produced finished drug products, from or in China.

The unnamed company that notified the FDA about a shortage said the problem is the result of an issue with the manufacturing of an active pharmaceutical ingredient used in the drug.

Made in China: The US relies heavily on Chinese-made drug ingredients, medical devices and drugs that are used in humans and animals. As of 2018, China ranked second among countries that exported drugs and biologics to the US, and ranked first for medical devices, according to the FDA.

Obligation to report shortages: The agency said Tuesday it has been in touch with 180 manufacturers to remind them that the companies have a regulatory obligation to notify the FDA if they anticipate any disruption to drug supplies. The agency asked companies to evaluate their supply chains in light of the coronavirus outbreak.

The FDA said it is working with the manufacturer that was recently added to the shortages list to try and mitigate the problem.

“We will do everything possible to mitigate the shortage,” the agency said in a news release Thursday.

this worries me
I'm on a lot of prescription medication
 
  • #848
BREAKING: Disneyland announces the temporal closure of their parks in Tokyo until March 15th - NHK

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  • #849
It should be easy enough to do the contact tracing from the individual to the Travis base?

But San Francisco airport would probably have a lot of travellers coming in from Asian nations? So it could be that someone came from Japan or South Korea, probably a day or two before the numbers of cases in S. Korea took off, and they had such mild symptoms that they didn't self-isolate (the advice when they flew in might well have still been to only self-isolate if one gets symptoms) and they spread it to someone, who spread it to a few more people, all having relatively normal flu symptoms, and then it gets to someone who has the more severe symptoms that lead to them being diagnosed. But there are so many steps between that person and the person who got off the plane, that there's no way to trace back to that person who got off the plane.

It is likely indicative of low-level community spread. But of course that's how it started in Hubei and Italy.

IMO the airport is a much more likely place for the index case to be found than the proper government/hospital quarantine/isolation facilities.

Yes in today’s California PC the Governor of California, iirc commented on the large number of flights/travelers that have come into California over the last month, 8000ish iirc? I need to pull exact quote but this paraphrasing moo iirc. Also, Dr. S. Angell, (from the CA Dept. of Public Health, iirc) said there is no evidence of a link to Travis. Moo.
 
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Britons in virus-hit hotel face flight delay

Britons confined to a hotel in Tenerife over coronavirus will not be flown home until next month, unless they have tested negative, airline Jet2 has said.

It is understood travellers booked with Jet2 received messages saying it would not fly them to the UK until 10 March.

It comes after three more people were diagnosed with the virus in the UK on Thursday, including Northern Ireland's first confirmed case.

That patient had travelled from northern Italy via Dublin.
 
  • #851
TENERIFE, Spain (Reuters) - Some 130 guests were cleared on Thursday to leave a Tenerife hotel placed on lockdown after four cases of the coronavirus were detected there, but there were no signs that would happen soon while authorities scrambled to address the situation.

On the third day of the H10 Costa Adeje Palace Hotel's lockdown, only the widespread presence of protective masks gave a glimpse of how unreal life has become for 700-plus tourists inside the compound.

A Canary Islands health department spokeswoman said the organisation of the guests' departure was a police matter.

video from inside the hotel showed guests sunbathing by one of the swimming pools and others serving themselves at a restaurant buffet. Some, but not all, wore masks, lowering them while eating.

Lara Pennington from Manchester, staying at the hotel with her children and elderly inlaws, said basic safety measures such as wearing masks and washing hands regularly were being ignored.

"There are numerous people who are not adhering to the protocol and therefore the environment outside of our rooms still remains very unsafe for us. We have no intention of leaving our rooms," she said.

Carlota, a volunteer nurse about to enter the hotel, told Reuters: "What we are really afraid of is that other people could be infected. Supposedly in healthy people it is not a deadly virus. We should not have any problem."

A spokesman for the regional government said none of the remaining guests presented any symptoms and they might be cleared before the end of a 14-day isolation period imposed on Wednesday.

Scores cleared to leave Tenerife hotel on coronavirus lockdown
 
  • #852
Sanitizer being sold online for $268 a bottle as coronavirus panic spreads

TORONTO -- As fear spreads over the novel coronavirus, some consumers are stockpiling hand sanitizer, leading to empty shelves in Toronto. As a result, some third-party sellers online are jacking up sanitizer prices to 10 times or more the regular price.

At a Shopper's Drug Mart in Scarborough, Ont. the shelf which houses hand sanitizer products was almost empty. While CTV News Toronto was there, a woman scooped four more off the shelf to purchase.

“I want to be safe from the virus. I’m getting them to help protect my children,” she said.
 
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For those of us that like source documents vs. MSM view, here is the FDA site for list for shortages to interpret info on your own, or to search the database for ones you may use for chronic condition

FDA Drug Shortages
 
  • #855
Sanitizer being sold online for $268 a bottle as coronavirus panic spreads

TORONTO -- As fear spreads over the novel coronavirus, some consumers are stockpiling hand sanitizer, leading to empty shelves in Toronto. As a result, some third-party sellers online are jacking up sanitizer prices to 10 times or more the regular price.

At a Shopper's Drug Mart in Scarborough, Ont. the shelf which houses hand sanitizer products was almost empty. While CTV News Toronto was there, a woman scooped four more off the shelf to purchase.

“I want to be safe from the virus. I’m getting them to help protect my children,” she said.

oh god I was really hoping the panic wouldn't spread here
that reporter is finding exactly what I posted about yesterday except that some of those hand sanitizers are multiple qty's - he didn't pick up on that
 
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I think this UC Davis patient is the one Trump referred to as "pretty sick" when he wanted to say that everyone was recovering.

MOO on that though.

Knowing that the patient is a Solano County resident, I'll speculate that the hospital they were in earlier was a Solano County hospital. I think we'll find out which hospital when we possibly see medical staff at a Solano hospital diagnosed with the virus themselves. I hope I'm wrong on that though.

I am also curious about that 1st hospital the patient was in before their transfer to UC Davis.

Another thing is that they have two issues now..one is the contact tracing for this patient, but the other is the unknown index case that started this outbreak for whom you can't do contact tracing if you don't know who they are :(
 
  • #859
For those of us that like source documents vs. MSM view, here is the FDA site for list for shortages to interpret info on your own, or to search the database for ones you may use for chronic condition

FDA Drug Shortages
Thank you so much!!!
 
  • #860
Doctor who treated first Chicago coronavirus patients describes unknowns during outbreak’s beginning

HOFFMAN ESTATES, Ill. —The local doctor who treated the first, and so far, only coronavirus patients in the Chicago-area described what it was like to be on the frontlines of the global outbreak.

The most difficult part about fighting this disease is the unknown. The head of infection control at a suburban hospital was faced with just that as two local coronavirus patients, a husband and wife, were treated in late January. Both have now fully recovered and returned to their normal daily activities.

Dr Lynwood Jones said the global health community can learn from this local case as he tries to answer the very questions many people are asking.

“It’s very hard to defeat an enemy when you don’t know him,” he said.

Jones saw that enemy up close and personal. The very first Chicago COVID-19 patient, a female in her 60s, came to the emergency room at Amita Health St Alexius Medical Center in northwest suburban Hoffman Estates. The woman had recently arrived home from a trip to China and she was experiencing respiratory, flu-like symptoms.

“People present as a respiratory illness, a cold, a flu … you can’t distinguish coronavirus from any other virus people may have cough shortness of breath.”
 
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