Coronavirus COVID-19 *Global Health Emergency* #7

[Henry2326]

10:22 p.m. ET, February 27, 2020
A pet dog is in quarantine after testing “weak positive” for coronavirus
From CNN’s Pauline Lockwood in Hong Kong
Hong Kong authorities have placed a pet dog into quarantine after it tested a “weak positive” for the novel coronavirus, officials said on Friday.

A dog was handed over to the Hong Kong Agriculture, Fisheries and Conservation Department (AFCD) after its owner was infected with the coronavirus, the department said in a statement.

Preliminary tests from the dog’s oral, nasal and rectal samples tested a “weak positive” but the “dog does not have any relevant symptoms," the AFCD said.

“At present, the AFCD does not have evidence that pet animals can be infected with COVID-19 virus or can be a source of infection to people,” the statement stresses. “The department will conduct close monitoring of the above dog and collect further samples for testing to confirm if the dog has really been infected with the virus or this is a result of environmental contamination of the dog's mouth and nose.

South Korea coronavirus cases surpass 2,000

 

[margarita25]

this worries me
I'm on a lot of prescription medication

Me too!

For those of us that like source documents vs. MSM view, here is the FDA site for list for shortages to interpret info on your own, or to search the database for ones you may use for chronic condition

FDA Drug Shortages

43:50 from today’s WHO Conference, Dr. Mike addresses a reporter’s question about “shortages of conventional drugs because of this crisis...”

Link:
Coronavirus COVID-19 *Global Health Emergency* #7

 

[LadyL]

all websites of my local stores are reporting 0 qty's of masks

 

[zecats]

There should be concern about the limited number of test kits. How can an illness be treated, and how can data be collected if there is no actual confirmation that a person has the virus. Stats will be skewed, others will be exposed without realization, treatment could be delayed. Proper testing is the front line, as demonstrated by many other countries around the world.

Single coronavirus case exposes a bigger failure to track spread

The discovery that a California woman was likely infected with the novel coronavirus by a previously unrecognized case in her community is proof of an enormous problem the country is facing at the moment, according to public health experts. It’s clear that the virus is spreading undetected in the United States — but how broadly it’s spreading is an utter mystery.

Before Thursday, a perfect storm of problems in the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s development of test kits — and the agency’s reluctance to expand its recommendation of who should be tested given the limited availability of kits — meant very little testing has been done in the country. As of Wednesday, the CDC said that 445 people had been tested — a fraction of the number of tests that other countries have run.

 

[rodneymullenmg]

Reading about face masks

How To Stop Coronavirus? Public Health Experts Weight In


"The fact is, your typical surgical mask is not going to protect or prevent infection," Erin Sorrell, a Center for Global Health Science and Security member and assistant research professor in the Department of Microbiology and Immunology at Georgetown University, told BuzzFeed News.

Sorrell said there's no reason to use a surgical mask if you're healthy and not infected.

"The virus itself is so small that it can penetrate the mask," she said. "So it literally does nothing for you."

 

[margarita25]

Reading about face masks

How To Stop Coronavirus? Public Health Experts Weight In


"The fact is, your typical surgical mask is not going to protect or prevent infection," Erin Sorrell, a Center for Global Health Science and Security member and assistant research professor in the Department of Microbiology and Immunology at Georgetown University, told BuzzFeed News.

Sorrell said there's no reason to use a surgical mask if you're healthy and not infected.

"The virus itself is so small that it can penetrate the mask," she said. "So it literally does nothing for you."

I think this is a good time to bring forward what Dr. Maria and Dr. Mike had to say today about wearing masks: There is the cultural element which has also been mentioned in previous conferences.

Timestamp /39:12:
Coronavirus COVID-19 *Global Health Emergency* #7

 

[Amonet]

I don't know, it seems to also follow the path of "1918", if you looked at the post about it. The "1918" flu hit hard on healthy people, overwhelming them with pathogens. Creating a "Cyclo Storm".

Of course, elderly people, immunocompromised people, babies are probably at higher risk. Shucks.

I'm loath to say it, but Dr John Campbell has said in SARS and MERS another high risk group is pregnant women, and until/unless we find out that's not the case with Covid-19, it's best to consider as a precaution that they could be high risk up there with over 60s.

 

[gitana1]

Our high school (and many for that matter) have senior trips scheduled soon. The decisions that have to be made over this crisis are mind boggling.

Lots of money is going to be lost as a result of all of the cancelled plans.

 

[Amonet]

Not meaning to be political, but I don't feel safe after Trump's speech nor do I feel informed. What is the government doing? Specifically? How are they going about helping us?

Is this true?
Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar on Wednesday declined to promise that a coronavirus vaccine would be affordable for all Americans, sparking outrage from Democrats.

I feel the same about my government's words not making me feel safer (UK) so you're not alone in that.

I think we do need to remember to differentiate between the purpose of a speech by the president vs what is actually being done in the background. The president sounded like he's trying to be upbeat and reassuring, and that's not a bad thing per se, but some of us want to hear more specifics on what preparations are already in place, and what will be in place in the next few weeks. So I think you need to look for different sources, like get your boost from the president's assessment that everything he's seeing and hearing sounds like good preparedness to him (and he's getting the reports from the people in charge of those things) but then also listen to the lady from the CDC who says it's time to start thinking about what you'd do if your community/town is affected, which might happen in the next 6 weeks, or might not.

But I am feeling a bit of hostility at some of the soundbites coming from politicians over here. I have to remind myself that they are just soundbites and that is not necessarily indicative of all the efforts happening in the background.

 

[margarita25]

Not meaning to be political, but I don't feel safe after Trump's speech nor do I feel informed. What is the government doing? Specifically? How are they going about helping us?

Is this true?
Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar on Wednesday declined to promise that a coronavirus vaccine would be affordable for all Americans, sparking outrage from Democrats.

California’s Governor had some excellent relevant comments on this.

See 47:37:

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[Henry2326]

(Reuters) - Nigeria has confirmed its first case of coronavirus, the health ministry said on Twitter on Friday, announcing the first case in sub-Saharan Africa, as infections spread rapidly worldwide.

The ministry said the case was in the state of Lagos, home to the southwestern commercial capital of the same name. Lagos is the biggest city in Africa's most populous country, with a population of about 20 million.

"The case...is the first case to be reported in Nigeria since the beginning of the outbreak in China in January," the health ministry said bit.ly/2HZQrO0 in its post, adding that the infection was confirmed on Thursday.

Nigeria confirms first case of coronavirus

 

[LadyL]

Reading about face masks
How To Stop Coronavirus? Public Health Experts Weight In
"The fact is, your typical surgical mask is not going to protect or prevent infection," Erin Sorrell, a Center for Global Health Science and Security member and assistant research professor in the Department of Microbiology and Immunology at Georgetown University, told BuzzFeed News.
Sorrell said there's no reason to use a surgical mask if you're healthy and not infected.
"The virus itself is so small that it can penetrate the mask," she said. "So it literally does nothing for you."

[bbm]

so there is a reason to wear if you're not healthy? because that contradicts her statement that it does nothing for you
she contradicts herself

 

[KALI]

I am starting to feel much better about this virus and the ability for it to be life changing.
Here's my reasonings.
As of 2017, China has a population of 1.386 billion people.
If 3,000.00 in our entire world have died, that's only 0.00216 of the world's population.
Please consider China's living situations and education.
In 2018 only 7.9 million Chinese completed education up to the 12th grade.
Most are not the cleanest, most sanitary people on our planet by a long shot.
They live and eat and believe completely differently from the West.
Which is probably why the most dangerous contagions come out of this region of our world. Repeatedly and historically.
Even so, their death and infection rate is very, very low for the amount of citizens who live there.
As this virus spreads across our planet, it will be the poorest, less educated and those that live in the densely populated areas that will suffer the most.
Certainly not fair. But a truth I believe.
Will there be deaths in the West? Yes.
Will they be horrific numbers? No. I do not think so.
If we pay attention, exercise caution, follow health professionals advice, I think we will all live through this.
Although, with lessons learned.
This is completely my opinion.
I look forward to your opinions.
Sincerely, Kali.

 

[Amonet]

I knew this was a stupid move....
____________________

POPE Francis cancelled a mass today after he was struck down with illness.

The 83-year-year-old pontiff was not well enough to attend the church service, which comes as the coronavirus outbreak in Italy topped 500 cases.

It is not clear what his symptoms are, but he was seen blowing his nose and covering his mouth as he coughed during an Ash Wednesday service in St Peter's yesterday.


Earlier yesterday Francis appeared in good spirits as he greeted a large crowd at a general audience in St Peter's Square.

Many of the faithful wore face masks, but others did not as they embraced the Holy Father.

Francis made a point to shake hands with the faithful in the front row and kissed a baby during his popemobile spin through the square.

He also greeted visiting bishops, but they appeared to refrain from kissing his ring or embracing him as they normally would.

Pope Francis, 83, cancels event as he’s taken ill amid Italy coronavirus crisis

It seems that a runny nose is not a common symptom of Covid-19 early on in the illness, so it sounds more likely that the Pope has a cold. Not sure it's a good idea to be kissing babies with a cold, but I do wish him a speedy recovery.

 

[What if...]

I just know that the bil works in a hospital system with confirmed patients with COVID-19 and in a town with confirmed cases and more being confirmed. But the town is not yet quarantined. The hospitals and schools are closed. It sounds like they are panicked enough that they are planning to flee via car before the town is quarantined. I've not heard any update. They don't trust Italy to contain it but trust Switzerland.

Thank you for the extra insight.
I wish them well.

 

[Amonet]

Dr. Mike just said that most transmissions are happening with people who have symptoms....

That is what you'd expect, as they have both the higher viral load plus the coughing that makes it so much easier to spread.

 

[KALI]

Doctors are human beings. You can put 10 doctors in a room, and get probably 6 different answers.
There is no harm to anyone if you choose to wear a mask.
Makes sense to me. Unless it gets wet, at which point, I would discard it, put on a fresh mask, or leave a crowded place filled with humans.
Actually, I would probably do both. Fresh mask, exit...

[bbm]

so there is a reason to wear if you're not healthy? because that contradicts her statement that it does nothing for you
she contradicts herself

 

[Herat]

10:22 p.m. ET, February 27, 2020
A pet dog is in quarantine after testing “weak positive” for coronavirus
From CNN’s Pauline Lockwood in Hong Kong
Hong Kong authorities have placed a pet dog into quarantine after it tested a “weak positive” for the novel coronavirus, officials said on Friday.

A dog was handed over to the Hong Kong Agriculture, Fisheries and Conservation Department (AFCD) after its owner was infected with the coronavirus, the department said in a statement.

Preliminary tests from the dog’s oral, nasal and rectal samples tested a “weak positive” but the “dog does not have any relevant symptoms," the AFCD said.

“At present, the AFCD does not have evidence that pet animals can be infected with COVID-19 virus or can be a source of infection to people,” the statement stresses. “The department will conduct close monitoring of the above dog and collect further samples for testing to confirm if the dog has really been infected with the virus or this is a result of environmental contamination of the dog's mouth and nose.

South Korea coronavirus cases surpass 2,000

It would be best if a rapid blood test could be developed that was specific for human antibodies to COVID-19 or even sensitive enough to detect circulating COVID-19 DNA.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

I sure hope whatever tests they are using on animals can differentiate between this coronavirus and the one that over 80% of cats test positive for having been exposed to. Otherwise, expect mass executions of over 80% of cats for no reason (ETA - in some places).

Edited for autocorrect that made me state the opposite of what I wanted.

 

[WildWest]

10:22 p.m. ET, February 27, 2020
A pet dog is in quarantine after testing “weak positive” for coronavirus
From CNN’s Pauline Lockwood in Hong Kong
Hong Kong authorities have placed a pet dog into quarantine after it tested a “weak positive” for the novel coronavirus, officials said on Friday.

A dog was handed over to the Hong Kong Agriculture, Fisheries and Conservation Department (AFCD) after its owner was infected with the coronavirus, the department said in a statement.

Preliminary tests from the dog’s oral, nasal and rectal samples tested a “weak positive” but the “dog does not have any relevant symptoms," the AFCD said.

“At present, the AFCD does not have evidence that pet animals can be infected with COVID-19 virus or can be a source of infection to people,” the statement stresses. “The department will conduct close monitoring of the above dog and collect further samples for testing to confirm if the dog has really been infected with the virus or this is a result of environmental contamination of the dog's mouth and nose.

South Korea coronavirus cases surpass 2,000

I'm curious about this. I know many pets are vaccinated for the strains of Corona common to them. Curious if this was the human Covid19 or the common Corona in a dog that was not vaccinated against canine corona. For instance, we can cuddle a cat or dog for a couple days while suffering the flu but our pet will not get sick from it.