Coronavirus COVID-19 *Global Health Emergency* #9

[Hatfield]

From what I've read, people in the general public do manage to wear and handle masks improperly. There is a protocol to wearing them and how to handle them with your hands. For one thing, your hands need to be clean when you handle a mask And, people who don't know better wear the mask and still touch their face, their nose, their eyes, making the mask useless.

For the general public, the masks do stop the spread of germs when worn by someone who is sick and is coughing, sneezing. The masks protect the people around them.

jmopinion

Yeah, they are harder than you think to get a good seal around the face and use properly.

I had mentioned before that I have quite a bit of experience with them because I go through about 10 masks a year on average doing regular outdoor chores like spraying weed killer, weed wacking along the driveway, and an occasional wood working project where saw dust is flying. The cheaper paper ones have a metal band at the top and it was important to bend and form it as tight as possible where it would fit the top bridge of the nose. I think some of the more proper Virus protection models dont really have that metal band like that but its important to get a good seal around the face no matter what type of mask you have.

The other thing I had brought up that I found really important is something that people may find out about when it gets super hot outside in the summer. When I was doing really physical work like weed wacking with a mask, what I found happened was as I was sweating and breathing heavy, the moisture would build up on the inside of the mask and eventually it would clog the mask where I had to get a brand new one out because I couldnt breath through the mask. It would suck into itself as I tried to breath in because it was clogged with moisture on the inside. The only time that happened was on very hot days where I was doing physical activity.

Just found that interesting because I didnt expect it to get clogged like that.

 

[margarita25]

“Public health officials in California on Saturday announced another coronavirus patient, a woman described as “a household contact” of a Santa Clara County woman whose diagnosis was made public Friday.”

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“The King County patient who died was in his 50s and had underlying health conditions, and he is believed to have contracted the virus from “community spread,” not travel, officials said. He died at EvergreenHealth Medical Center in the Seattle suburb of Kirkland.”

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“About 27 of the 108 residents at the facility and 25 of the 180 staffers have symptoms of the virus, Dr. Jeffrey Duchin, health officer for Public Health Seattle and King County, said Saturday in a telebriefing with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

“We are very concerned about an outbreak in a setting where there are many older people,” he said.”

California sees third case of 'community spread' coronavirus as first U.S. death is reported near Seattle
FEB. 29, 2020
5:48 PM

 

[firebird]

Are you saying that the threat of sepsis is from having an IV in place?

Yes. Look at the diagram. The threat of sepsis is at the site of the IV/PICC line insertion. As is generally the case.

 

[Tadpole12]

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[LaborDayRN]

Yes. Look at the diagram. The threat of sepsis is at the site of the IV/PICC line insertion. As is generally the case.

While invasive devices can be ONE cause, there are actually many.

Causes
While any type of infection — bacterial, viral or fungal — can lead to sepsis, the most likely varieties include:

• Pneumonia
• Infection of the digestive system (which includes organs such as the stomach and colon)
• Infection of the kidney, bladder and other parts of the urinary system
• Bloodstream infection (bacteremia)

Risk factors
Sepsis and septic shock are more common if you:

• Are very young or very old
• Have a compromised immune system
• Have diabetes or cirrhosis
• Are already very sick, often in a hospital intensive care unit
• Have wounds or injuries, such as burns
• Have invasive devices, such as intravenous catheters or breathing tubes
• Have previously received antibiotics or corticosteroids

Sepsis - Symptoms and causes

 

[firebird]

link please?

I provided the link in response to JerseyGirl in this thread. I'll see if I can easily find it again.

This is the post. The quote is from CNN
Coronavirus COVID-19 *Global Health Emergency* #9

 

[zecats]

Glaring!! I’m not sure how that came out as spelling!

It was sort of appropriate....IMO

 

[margarita25]

“Officials in the southeastern coastal city of Ningbo said Thursday that informants would be awarded the equivalent of about $1,400 for turning in a person who is confirmed to have the virus.”

China Touts Slowing Coronavirus Toll, as South Korean Cases Rise

 

[firebird]

While invasive devices can be ONE cause, there are actually many.

Causes
While any type of infection — bacterial, viral or fungal — can lead to sepsis, the most likely varieties include:

• Pneumonia
• Infection of the digestive system (which includes organs such as the stomach and colon)
• Infection of the kidney, bladder and other parts of the urinary system
• Bloodstream infection (bacteremia)

Risk factors
Sepsis and septic shock are more common if you:

• Are very young or very old
• Have a compromised immune system
• Have diabetes or cirrhosis
• Are already very sick, often in a hospital intensive care unit
• Have wounds or injuries, such as burns
• Have invasive devices, such as intravenous catheters or breathing tubes
• Have previously received antibiotics or corticosteroids

Sepsis - Symptoms and causes

Well, it's the IV/PICC site that's the cause identified in the diagram we're talking about

 

[LaborDayRN]

I provided the link in response to JerseyGirl in this thread. I'll see if I can easily find it again.

Thanks, but it's okay.

The CDC has already put out a statement that it was the CDC that provided incorrect information to POTUS, not Washington state officials.

A senior administration official blamed the director of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for the mix up.
"Dr. (Robert) Redfield briefed Pence and Trump after speaking with Washington State health officials that it was a woman. Washington State has since corrected," the official said.
Redfield tweeted later Saturday that the "CDC erroneously identified the patient as a female in a briefing earlier (Saturday) with the President and Vice President."

Donald Trump says additional American coronavirus cases 'likely' as US confirms first death - CNNPolitics

 

[margarita25]

I forget, was it said it costs 5 $ a test kit approx?
ETA or was it vaccines?

Paraphrasing:

Yes Dr. Mike last week, in response to a reporter’s question about this, said that one kit is $5 with the specific manufacturer that they are using at the time, but there are other manufacturers too and wasn’t sure of those prices off the top of his head.

 

[SAMS]

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Illinois public health officials say they've identified another case of coronavirus--this one in Cook County. "The positive test results will have to be confirmed by the US Centers of Disease Control & Prevention." Patient is "hospitalized in isolation."

 

[SAMS]

Ted Land on Twitter

NEW: 16 Lake Washington Institute of Technology students visited the Kirkland nursing home where 2 ppl were diagnosed w/ #coronavirus. The visit was this past week. School says it’s disinfecting campus & coordinating w/ health officials on a plan for monitoring those students.

 

[margarita25]

(LEAD) S. Korea reports 376 new virus cases, total exceeds 3,500 | Yonhap News Agency
10:43 March 01, 2020

“SEOUL, March 1 (Yonhap) -- South Korea reported 376 additional cases of the new coronavirus Sunday, bringing the total number of infections here to 3,526.”

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The country's COVID-19 death toll remained unchanged at 17.

Of the 376 new cases, 333 are in Daegu, 300 kilometers southeast of Seoul, and 26 were reported in neighboring North Gyeongsang Province, according to the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC).

Other major provinces and cities have also reported some infections, with Seoul reporting an additional five cases. South Korea's second-largest city, Busan, added one more case.”

 

[SAMS]

When were they considered important? I thought Asians wear masks because it's a polite thing in their cultures to do WHEN SICK, not as a prevention, but Americans saw Asians wearing masks and thought masks were a precaution.

Was it ever stated by an official to wear masks to protect yourself? I suppose so. But I think the advice was that masks protect others from you if you yourself are sick.

Healthcare workers are different because they are in such close contact with sick people all the time. The masks do protect them, and they know how to handle them properly.

jmopinion, which might not match the opinion of my mask-loving WS friends

Mask loving? Lol I think we just want to be informed correctly. MOO

 

[firebird]

Thanks, but it's okay.

The CDC has already put out a statement that it was the CDC that provided incorrect information to POTUS, not Washington state officials.

A senior administration official blamed the director of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for the mix up.
"Dr. (Robert) Redfield briefed Pence and Trump after speaking with Washington State health officials that it was a woman. Washington State has since corrected," the official said.
Redfield tweeted later Saturday that the "CDC erroneously identified the patient as a female in a briefing earlier (Saturday) with the President and Vice President."

Donald Trump says additional American coronavirus cases 'likely' as US confirms first death - CNNPolitics

tbh, I don't think it's clear that the information provided by the CDC wasn't the information provided to them by Washington. But, ultimately, the CDC provided wrong info directly to the President. Personally, I'd like to know who provided the wrong info between Washington and the CDC, but I probably won't ever find out.

 

[Cubby]

UK sources are saying that they are up to 5 times more protective than no face mask in preventing transmission through the mouth and nose. I don't appreciate bull$hit and lies just because they didn't plan ahead to have masks for everyone in a pandemic.

I'd swear last month they suggested hand washing and masks and then suddenly only greedy morons would buy masks.

But they are saying masks do not help the general public who are not sick and should only be worn by people who are sick to prevent spreading the illness to others.

Masks OK for those already ill, not for those who are well. If they are being improperly used by well/healthy people it leaves the sick veulnerable...... It makes perfect sense to me.

 

[margarita25]

People lined up to buy masks outside a store in Seoul on Friday.

South Korea Spends Billions to Blunt Coronavirus’s Economic Impact

“South Korean Finance Minister Hong Nam-ki said Friday that the country would spend 16 trillion won ($13.19 billion) providing financial support to businesses and individuals suffering as economic activity nosedives. Mr. Hong said he would push the National Assembly to approve another 6 trillion won in emergency aid soon.”

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“In Japan, which has reported 210 Covid-19 cases, the northernmost Hokkaido prefecture declared a state of emergency Friday after a spike in cases there. The Hokkaido governor urged residents not to go out this weekend, so as to help contain an outbreak that has sickened 63 in the prefecture and claimed two lives.”

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“Concerns over the broader outbreak in Japan—where five people have died—prompted a rush to buy daily supplies Friday, with many store shelves swept clean of toilet paper, tissue and sanitary pads.”

 

[Henry2326]

1/n #COVID19 hits older, vulnerable adults hardest. But there’s also data suggesting some disproportionate impact on younger adults when viewed relative to #flu. We compare hospitalizations by age from this China COVID19 data set to rates in U.S. for flu https://t.co/iQKPkbwFca Scott Gottlieb, MD on Twitter
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