Coronavirus COVID-19 *Global Health Emergency* #9

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In the US?

Yes, I live in Montana. I have NEVER seen as many bottles of hand sanitizer around town, for every one to help themselves to a pump or two.
 
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Having used an N-95 for wildfire smoke, I will say that it’s really hard for an amateur like me to get a tight fit. It also was very hard to breath through, for me anyway. I only wore it for a short walk of about a block to get where I needed to go. But for longer periods, I’d have trouble with it. I don’t have great lung power.
 
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I brought mine with me to the hospital. 5 days of heavy antibiotics and my own private room while they figured out what was causing it. I caught mine early, very early. Middle of the night I knew something was wrong and had temp to prove it. Even though it was Friday night of Labor Day weekend I didn’t try to wait it out. Quick trip to small Local ER earned me a trip to the big hospital. Staph infection (not MRSA) but no idea what caused it. Fun times, fun times...told I had beginning stages of sepsis and if I would have waited I wouldn’t have survived. When I came in based on my vitals I had 10% chance of not surviving.
Wow! Scary stuff! I'm glad you went right in and are feeling better now!
 
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More on masks, everyone must watch:

Here is what Dr. Maria and Dr. Mike had to say a few days ago about wearing masks: There is the cultural element which has also been mentioned in previous conferences.

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Having used an N-95 for wildfire smoke, I will say that it’s really hard for an amateur like me to get a tight fit. It also was very hard to breath through, for me anyway. I only wore it for a short walk of about a block to get where I needed to go. But for longer periods, I’d have trouble with it. I don’t have great lung power.
I agree! They are very difficult to breath in if applied correctly. That's the biggest problem for me.
 
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Coronavirus panic grips California with anxious shoppers stocking up on bottled water, canned food and Clorox wipes as the state becomes a virus hot spot

Coronavirus panic grips California as anxious shoppers stock up on supplies | Daily Mail Online

So much of this outbreak is phychological and a lot of people feel like they want to do something to help protect themselves and their family members. From that aspect, I can understand some of the reactions.

Being that stress can lower immune system, if people are lowering their stress by taking small actions they can, then that is a good thing I suppose. At least they feel like they are accomplishing a defensive attack.
 
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NOOOOOOOOOOO

Your comment is incorrect.

Please leave it to the healthcare professionals to comment on "sepsis".

Look at the diagram. That's exactly what they're saying. And it's exactly correct.
 
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Yes. Look at the diagram. The threat of sepsis is at the site of the IV/PICC line insertion. As is generally the case.

That diagram was not indicating the threat of sepsis is at the site of an IV just because they wrote the word sepsis there. Nor do they give an IV or PICC line for no good reason. People don't get the flu or COVID-19 and die because of an IV infection leading to sepsis. And avoiding an IV will not prevent people with COVID-19 from getting sepsis as you implied.

People with COVID-19 are getting sepsis because of THAT infection. The coronavirus infection. My sil got the flu last year. She ended up with sepsis from the flu. She was treated in the hospital which mercifully had IV's to give her iv antibiotics which anyone with sepsis is going to need. They aren't getting sepsis from the IV abx in that kind of situation. We aren't talking about someone with a permanent picc line getting sepsis from it.
 
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'Tip of the iceberg.' Health officials predict more coronavirus in Washington state as testing accelerates
FEB 29, 2020 at 2:43 PM
*A man died of presumed coronavirus in Kirkland, Washington. He is the first documented death from the virus in the U.S.

*2 people from a nursing facility in Kirkland have tested positive for the novel virus.

*Another 50 people from the nursing facility are being tested for the virus; their results are pending.

*10 CDC workers from Atlanta land in Sunday this weekend, and will head for the nursing care facility. More may arrive later.

Washington state has not yet reached a situation where major events will need to be canceled, however, said Dr. Kathy Lofy, a state health officer.

“In Washington, we are starting to see some spread of this virus,” Lofy said. “We feel the risk to the general public is increasing. But we do not feel that transmission is happening on a wide-spread basis.”

More at link

'Tip of the iceberg.' Health officials predict more coronavirus in Washington state as testing accelerates
 
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Yeah, they are harder than you think to get a good seal around the face and use properly.

I had mentioned before that I have quite a bit of experience with them because I go through about 10 masks a year on average doing regular outdoor chores like spraying weed killer, weed wacking along the driveway, and an occasional wood working project where saw dust is flying. The cheaper paper ones have a metal band at the top and it was important to bend and form it as tight as possible where it would fit the top bridge of the nose. I think some of the more proper Virus protection models dont really have that metal band like that but its important to get a good seal around the face no matter what type of mask you have.

The other thing I had brought up that I found really important is something that people may find out about when it gets super hot outside in the summer. When I was doing really physical work like weed wacking with a mask, what I found happened was as I was sweating and breathing heavy, the moisture would build up on the inside of the mask and eventually it would clog the mask where I had to get a brand new one out because I couldnt breath through the mask. It would suck into itself as I tried to breath in because it was clogged with moisture on the inside. The only time that happened was on very hot days where I was doing physical activity.

Just found that interesting because I didnt expect it to get clogged like that.

I wear those masks all the time but reuse them like hell. I use them when cleaning because I’m allergic to animals and have a bunch. But even with an old mask it keeps out tons of allergens because I get allergies if I don’t wear it and none if I do.

I do a lot of wood work and landscaping and stuff and wear them for that as well. Sweating hasn’t made them unusable but when they get covered with dust I usually get a new one.
 
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I brought mine with me to the hospital. 5 days of heavy antibiotics and my own private room while they figured out what was causing it. I caught mine early, very early. Middle of the night I knew something was wrong and had temp to prove it. Even though it was Friday night of Labor Day weekend I didn’t try to wait it out. Quick trip to small Local ER earned me a trip to the big hospital. Staph infection (not MRSA) but no idea what caused it. Fun times, fun times...told I had beginning stages of sepsis and if I would have waited I wouldn’t have survived. When I came in based on my vitals I had 10% chance of not surviving.

I worked at a hospital, I had a cut on my ear, from yard work on the weekend. Went to work on Monday, I probably touched my ear, putting my hair back, by 12, I had a huge, pus filled, red streaks by my ear. By 6, I was on IV antibiotics, ordered by the doctor.

Hospitals are filled with germs. I try to stay away from them now.
 
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Having used an N-95 for wildfire smoke, I will say that it’s really hard for an amateur like me to get a tight fit. It also was very hard to breath through, for me anyway. I only wore it for a short walk of about a block to get where I needed to go. But for longer periods, I’d have trouble with it. I don’t have great lung power.
I've read that the ones with the little square vent in front are easier. A valve opens as you breathe out, so your humid exhales don't just get absorbed by the mask. Then the vent automatically closes on the inhale to keep out pollutants. Maybe that kind would be easier, even just a little.
 
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As testing expands over the next two weeks, case count in U.S. is likely to grow quickly. Identifying patients is key to getting them proper treatment, containing outbreaks where we can, and mitigating spread where containment isn’t fully possible. These must be our focus now.
Scott Gottlieb, MD on Twitter
 
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So much of this outbreak is phychological and a lot of people feel like they want to do something to help protect themselves and their family members. From that aspect, I can understand some of the reactions.

Being that stress can lower immune system, if people are lowering their stress by taking small actions they can, then that is a good thing I suppose. At least they feel like they are accomplishing a defensive attack.

Ya, there is definately a psychological factor wrt masks.
Defensive attack, for sure.
 
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I wear those masks all the time but reuse them like hell. I use them when cleaning because I’m allergic to animals and have a bunch. But even with an old mask it keeps out tons of allergens because I get allergies if I don’t wear it and none if I do.

I do a lot of wood work and landscaping and stuff and wear them for that as well. Sweating hasn’t made them unusable but when they get covered with dust I usually get a new one.
I do this too but I live in arid country. People in humid areas might experience them getting clogged with moisture faster than in the arid lands.
 
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li zehua last speech - بحث Google

See, youtube: The last speach of coronavirus independent reporter Li Zehua before captured by CCP police in wuhan

ETA arrested 2/26

Another lost citizen journalist.

Will he ever be seen again?

Any news on Fang Bin or Chen Q.? Has it been “24 days” or whatever they said??
 
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