Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #100

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  • #861
I have not dined in any restaurant since early March 2020
and have no plans to change that any time soon and I hate
not going out for breakfast or dinner

me neither - we have gotten takeout a few times
we don't normally go out a lot anyway but I'm still missing it
 
  • #862
We do go out, mostly sit outside and do the social distancing.
But we didn't for a long time.
I just couldn't stand it anymore!
 
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  • #864
Here is today’s chart from our area’s three-hospital system in Oregon’s Jackson and Josephine counties, covering cases during the last 7 days and deaths during the last 9o days (summer). The blue triangles represent those who are over 65 and vaccinated. There were 19 vaccinated deaths in the past 90 days (about 6/month) in that age range and 4 total in the vaccinated 18-64 age range. Obviously far fewer than the unvaccinated deaths, but it is happening, tragically. This chart does not count those who die at home and a surprising number do, as our daily lists show. Nor does it count cases at the other hospital (Providence) in Medford not part of Asante.

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https://www.asante.org/app/files/pu...c2a8133/Asante_COVID-19_Cases_Infographic.pdf

This link covers all of Oregon and shows less visually that older vaccinated ones are dying at a greater rate than the younger vaxxed with breakthrough cases.
https://www.oregon.gov/oha/covid19/Documents/DataReports/Breakthrough-Case-Report.pdf

It would have been wonderful if boosters had been ready to be approved to start earlier and saved some of these lives! I will get mine at the first opportunity, possibly late November, 6 months from my second shot. We have had the monoclonal antibody treatment here since Jan. 27, so I hope it was given to vaccinated elderly and kept them alive, along with other treatments. It is now available drive-through with 4 shots, much quicker than the infusion I had. But the elderly are generally more medically fragile with weaker immune systems, so if they got vaccinated, they should get the monoclonal antibodies ahead of an person who was opposed to vaccinations until they got Covid. JMO It’s a real ethical dilemma. Hospitals want to help as many as possible, and the younger you are the better the outcome, vaxxed or unvaxxed. But it leaves those of us who are vaxxed and older feeling disposable if push comes to shove. JMO

I wish we had data like you have from your local hospital system and the state. In NC I'm able to find cases and deaths by county and zip code, but no idea how many were in vaccinated vs unvaccinated people.
 
  • #865
Thanks, me too :)

Until I tried Barramundi I thought all fish tasted about the same, sort of fishy lol and boring. But this was different and yummy.
The second time I had it, a week later it wasn't quite as yummy as the first time.

I had to look up Barramundi- i had never heard of it!!! Hope you can have it soon!!!
 
  • #866
I'm invited to lunch at a restaurant tomorrow. It's supposed to be on a covered patio. But I've declined, even though I'd love to see everyone. For one thing, I have no idea whether they all are vaccinated. I think most or all of them are, but I didn't want to come out and ask. So, not going... maybe once I have a booster.
 
  • #867
Police fire rubber bullets at anti-vaxxer tradies who took over Melbourne's war memorial | Daily Mail Online

"Police have fired rubber bullets, stinger grenades and pepper balls at anti-vaxx protesters stationed at Melbourne's war memorial on a third day of violent demonstrations.

Around 400 people, who have been rallying to demand an end to mandatory vaccinations for construction workers, swarmed Victoria's Shrine of Remembrance which was built to honour the state's men and women who served in the First World War.

Throughout Wednesday the mob chanted 'lest we forget' as they stood in front of the monument, some decked out in body armour and helmets in anticipation of a police attack while others urged officers not to arrest them out of 'respect for the Anzacs'.

After an hours-long standoff where police offered to let protesters leave, officers opened fire to clear demonstrators who had started pelting them with bottles."
 
  • #868
MOO, sounds like he might have a good case with his lawsuit.

OMG, no kidding. He did what we do at the end of every vaccination clinic, call people in so that there are no wasted vaccines.

From the article:
Gokal was told by Harris County Public Health, Human Resources that he "did not 'equitably' distribute the vaccine and that Dr. Gokal gave the vaccine to too many individuals with 'Indian' sounding names," the lawsuit says.

HCPH also told Gokal he "should have instead thrown the vaccines away," according to the lawsuit.

"It's very clear that if he had vaccinated people named Anderson, Smith and Jones he would have been called a hero and not have been fired, charged, vilified and brought before a grand jury that thankfully refused to indict him," Gokal's attorney Joe Ahmad said in the statement.
 
  • #869
@KALI I think that this thread may be a skewed survey. Most people in Montana seem to be done with the Pandemic and want to bring on the party.

I was at an Oktoberfest gathering other day, everyone was arm in arm, learning how to yodel. And, yes, the beer was flowing pretty quickly. Not a mask in sight.
 
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Good News

California now has nation's lowest virus transmission rate

LOS ANGELES (AP) — California has the lowest coronavirus transmission rate of any state following a sharp decline in cases and hospitalizations after a summer surge.

The nation's most populous state is the only one experiencing “substantial" coronavirus transmission, the second-highest level on the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's color-coded map. So is Puerto Rico. In all other U.S. states, virus transmission is labeled as “high," defined as 100 or more cases per 100,000 people in the last week.

California's rate is 94 cases per 100,000. By comparison, Texas is 386 and Florida is 296.

State health experts say relatively high vaccination rates in California ahead of the arrival of the delta variant made a difference, and additional measures, such as masking, also helped stem the surge. Nearly 70% of eligible Californians are fully vaccinated, and another 8% have received their first shot, state data shows.

“The overall secret to California has been the vaccination rates were high enough that we started off in an OK place," said Dr. Kirsten Bibbins-Domingo, a professor of epidemiology at University of California, San Francisco's medical school. “We just never reached the height we saw in Florida, for example, because it's against the backdrop of fairly high vaccination rates.”

On Monday, a state mandate went into effect requiring attendees at indoor events with 1,000 or more people show proof of full vaccination or a negative test. Patrons previously were allowed to just attest they were vaccinated or had a negative test.
 
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  • #873
So how do people go about getting that booster if you fall into the appropriate categories? My husband got Pfizer, so I presume he can go to any pharmacy and get the booster? I got Moderna so I have to wait.

Maybe check with his doctor. That’s what I’m going to do. We won’t be eligible until late November if it’s six months after the second dose.
 
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  • #875
I don't know why first responders are refusing the vaccines. They are dying all throughout the US. We so need these people. * All deaths are sad from this curse of a virus, but it takes so much away from our society as a whole to lose these trained committed people.moo

It is truly puzzling why first responders and police officers are not getting vaccinated in large numbers-and dying. So sad for them and so sad for us the public
 
  • #876
Sigh. Back in the very early 1970’s my husband’s first teaching job was at a three room school out in the boonies. Everyone in the community was either related or knew each other. He taught third, fourth and fifth grades for three years before moving to a school “in town” to teach fifth grade. We just found out that two of his former students and the younger sister of one all died of Covid in August. Their ages were 55, 58 and 60. Their mothers outlived them. They all had children and grandchildren they adored and were active and respected in the community. According to the former colleague who sent him the obituaries, they were not vaccinated. Such a sad and unnecessary loss. :(
 
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Sigh. Back in the very early 1970’s my husband’s first teaching job was at a three room school out in the boonies. Everyone was either related or knew each other. He taught third, fourth and fifth grades for three years before moving to a school “in town” to teach fifth grade. We just found out that two of his former students and the younger sister of one all died of Covid in August. Their ages were 55, 58 and 60. Their mothers outlived them. They all had children and grandchildren they adored and were active and respected in the community. According to the former colleague who sent him the obituaries, they were not vaccinated. Such a sad and unnecessary loss. :(

That is so sad- This evil virus has taken so many- I often think that two years ago all 675,000 people were alive, living their normal lives and now they are gone: mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, wives and husbands, and children. It is mind numbing to even think about it- and when you know some of those people, it becomes personal in a horrible way. And this evil virus is not done with us.
 
  • #878
That is so sad- This evil virus has taken so many- I often think that two years ago all 675,000 people were alive, living their normal lives and now they are gone: mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, wives and husbands, and children. It is mind numbing to even think about it- and when you know some of those people, it becomes personal in a horrible way. And this evil virus is not done with us.

“Mind-numbing” truly describes all these huge and horrible losses. My husband and I had been fortunate so far not to have known anyone who died of Covid, although we have lost four good friends since April from other causes…all unexpected and a gut punch. But we were just talking about the fact that Covid deaths are going to start hitting closer and closer to home, and now we are bracing ourselves for those losses.
 
  • #879
Awww rats!

My home town has had another case after four days without any.

And a neighbouring town which we've long had a rivalry with comes out of lockdown midnight tonight.
Hey not fair!
Just kidding :D

We have just have to keep doing the vaccinating and and keep up with all the other things, masks, distancing etc.
 
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