Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #100

[CrimeAway]

For Those With Long COVID-19, 'Returning To Normal' Is A Massive Battle

This is a huge problem, and like ME/CFS, could cause life long suffering and disability. JMO.

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[margarita25]

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[TootsieFootsie]

‘At the mercy of the system’: Sydney woman’s plea to get vaccine to vulnerable mother in hospital

 

[SouthAussie]

‘At the mercy of the system’: Sydney woman’s plea to get vaccine to vulnerable mother in hospital

I know this is redundant now, but why is her mum only now due for her 2nd dose? At her age, her mum was one of the first eligible candidates for vaccination (in March) and should have been fully vaccinated months ago.

I feel bad for her mum, but there is always so much fuss by people who haven't done what they should have done, when they should have done it.

I think at 90 years old and having just had a stroke (often related to blood clots), I think this daughter would be wise to see if her mum should even have a 2nd dose of AstraZeneca at the moment.

 

[otto]

I know this is redundant now, but why is her mum only now due for her 2nd dose? At her age, her mum was one of the first eligible candidates for vaccination (in March) and should have been fully vaccinated months ago.

I feel bad for her mum, but there is always so much fuss by people who haven't done what they should have done, when they should have done it.

I think at 90 years old and having just had a stroke (often related to blood clots), I think this daughter would be wise to see if her mum should even have a 2nd dose of AstraZeneca at the moment.

Purely from memory, but I recall that early AstraZeneca vaccines were provided to older adults (80+) first in Canada. There were blood clot deaths, but it was written off as ambiguous - couldn't tell whether blood-clot death by old age, or vaccine.

When AstraZeneca was released to a broader population, including people age 40-65, blood clots occurred unexpectedly in that population as well. That resulted in a decision in Canada that AstraZeneca would no long be administered as a covid vaccine. That was a few months ago - May/June? It caused blood clots in middle-aged adults too.

I must admit that I'm surprised that AstraZeneca has been used in Australia more recently. The fact that it is used reminds me of the vaccine shortages in Canada, and the message that any vaccine is better than no vaccine. Canada now knows better - AstraZeneca is not better than no vaccine for the many who have devastating side effects. Why doesn't Australia follow other countries, wait for the safer vaccine? Is AstraZeneca the better vaccine in general at this time.

"A formerly healthy 43-year-old father from Langley, B.C. — who is in hospital recovering from complications following a rare blood clot — is warning others to watch for signs of trouble after receiving an AstraZeneca-Oxford COVID-19 vaccine. "​

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/langley-man-intestine-vaccine-effect-1.6027830

It's as though Australia is a few months behind other countries, but has not learned anything from other countries.

 

[SouthAussie]

Why doesn't Australia follow other countries, wait for the safer vaccine? Is AstraZeneca the better vaccine in general at this time.

We tried waiting. Now NSW is in trouble, which puts the entire country at great risk. And people wouldn't send us the Pfizer that we ordered.

I don't think you can compare our situation with the situation in countries who have had the privilege of early Pfizer deliveries.

I have had AstraZeneca. Millions of us have had AstraZeneca. Same in the UK.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I'm one of those millions too.

I have had AstraZeneca. Millions of us have had AstraZeneca. Same in the UK.

 

[otto]

Thread 100

See deaths and new cases.

Quite true re: 100, but we started discussing this when it was a flu in China that made Cruise Ship people sick. That was well before the pandemic started, or was declared. There must be pages of discussions about toilet paper before we got to viral pandemic de-worming pills.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

‘A pandemic of the unvaccinated': More than 90 per cent of new Victorian cases aged under 50

Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews has revealed more than 90 per cent of the state's 183 new cases were aged under 50.

He said there were now 1714 active cases across the state, and the figures showed that younger Victorians were being hit hard in the latest outbreak.

"The age breakdown confirms that this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated," Mr Andrews said on Sunday morning.

 

[otto]

We tried waiting. Now NSW is in trouble, which puts the entire country at great risk. And people wouldn't send us the Pfizer that we ordered.

I don't think you can compare our situation with the situation in countries who have had the privilege of early Pfizer deliveries.

I have had AstraZeneca. Millions of us have had AstraZeneca. Same in the UK.

As a Canadian, I know what it felt like when the USA, UK, Germany and other countries had first dibbs on the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines. Canada could not offer pfizer or moderna to under 65 until mid-May 2021 first shot, late-June 2021 second shot. July/August in Australia? Meanwhile, AstraZeneca was pushed until June 2021 as "better than nothing" until healthy people younger than age 65 were suffering life altering blood clot injuries.

I do know that some vaccine delivery delays in Canada were related to order date. The vaccine arrived in waves in Canada according to order payment dates. In July, there was a shortage of Pfizer vaccine, so people who had Pfizer or AstraZeneca (discontinued) first were told to take Moderna second - mix and match vaccines.

It sounds like Australia is July first shot, August second shot of Pfizer or AstraZeneca.

 

[otto]

Some countries do not recognize AstraZeneca vaccine. At least one of two shots must be Pfizer or Moderna.

"Canada’s health authority has given the green light to mix-and-match COVID-19 vaccines, but as the world reopens, not all are recognizing a mix of vaccines from different makers as fully vaccinated, despite millions of Canadians doing so.

Here’s who has announced so far they do not accept mixed vaccines.
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Canada’s National Advisory Committee on Immunization (NACI) has approved mixing vaccines, including AstraZeneca with an mRNA vaccine.
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Both Germany and France only accept a combination of AstraZeneca and Pfizer or Moderna as fully vaccinated and not two mRNA vaccines of different makes, meaning travellers must present a negative COVID-19 test to enter.

In response to some of these policies, Quebec will now allow its residents to get a third shot of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine to avoid policies against mixing vaccines and the COVISHIELD vaccine.

The province warns, though, to seek advice and weigh the risks before getting an extra shot.
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Aug4, 2021
Thinking of travelling? Here’s where mixed COVID-19 vaccines aren’t accepted - National | Globalnews.ca

 

[SouthAussie]

It sounds like Australia is July first shot, August second shot of Pfizer or AstraZeneca.

I got my first shot of AZ in March, my second shot in June.

The 90 year old woman (which is how this convo started) could have been vaccinated much earlier, and shouldn't be waiting for her 2nd AZ dose now.

It was only the under 50s who were waiting for Pfizer (until recently, now they can get whichever vaccine they want ... dependant on availability).

 

[HongKongPhooey]

I'm one of those millions too.

And me, and everyone I know including my parents in late Jan/early Feb, except under 40s - those I know had Pfizer.

Havent come across one person in my network who had problems with Zeneca.

AstraZeneca Covid vaccine: safety and side effects

According to this, 24.8 million adults in the UK have had a least one Zeneca jab and of those 72 suffered fatal blood clots. The calculated risk rate is one in every 344,000 people.

When you have the jab, they screen you with questions re meds you are taking, previous problems, any issues since the first jab etc.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I had mine in April and July.

I got my first shot of AZ in March, my second shot in June.

 

[Skigh]

Israel planning to administer FOURTH Covid vaccine which could be adjusted to fight new variants | Daily Mail Online

 

[MimosaMornings]

Israel planning to administer FOURTH Covid vaccine which could be adjusted to fight new variants | Daily Mail Online

Wow. The comments on the article are dominated by those who think needing a fourth shot so soon shows the vaccine doesn’t work.
Four shots in a 12 month period?

 

[jjenny]

Wow. The comments on the article are dominated by those who think needing a fourth shot so soon shows the vaccine doesn’t work.
Four shots in a 12 month period?

Well in US we still can't decide on a third shot. Looks like only Pfizer will be approved for a booster in September.
And US doesn't want to mix and match vaccines like other countries have been doing.
So what does that mean for Moderna and J&J recipients here?

 

[Sundog]

Well in US we still can't decide on a third shot. Looks like only Pfizer will be approved for a booster in September.
And US doesn't want to mix and match vaccines like other countries have been doing.
So what does that mean for Moderna and J&J recipients here?

I saw on the news last night that approximately 1 million people in the U.S. have already had a booster shot of Pfizer. And this is before approval for the booster to the general population. I think they will have to approve Moderna soon, people will demand it. Seems they just have to settle on the dosage issue before rolling it out.

 

[jjenny]

I saw on the news last night that approximately 1 million people in the U.S. have already had a booster shot of Pfizer. And this is before approval for the booster to the general population. I think they will have to approve Moderna soon, people will demand it. Seems they just have to settle on the dosage issue before rolling it out.

I already had my booster of Moderna. Boosters for immunocompromised with Moderna are allowed, no problem. It's hard to understand why that was approved, but not for general population?

 

[Sundog]

I saw on the news last night that approximately 1 million people in the U.S. have already had a booster shot of Pfizer. And this is before approval for the booster to the general population. I think they will have to approve Moderna soon, people will demand it. Seems they just have to settle on the dosage issue before rolling it out.

Correction: The 1 million booster shots already administered in the U.S. include both the Pfizer and Moderna booster shots. These are ostensibly for the immunocompromised and other categories approved by the CDC.