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Supreme Court ends federal eviction moratorium
St. Louis woman after eviction: 'I have no idea' what to do

Eviction Moratorium

ST. LOUIS (AP) — The knock on the door that Kristen Bigogno has long dreaded finally arrived Friday — two St. Louis deputies came to evict her, joined by a couple of other men there to change the locks on the apartment.

The eviction was months in the making, yet it felt sudden to Bigogno. The judgment against her was last winter, but thanks to a national moratorium, she got a reprieve that ended with a Supreme Court ruling last month.

She received her final notice on Tuesday. When two deputies pulled up around noon on Friday, she knew it was over.

Now, Bigogno, 39, doesn't know where she and her sons, ages 16 and 17, will live.

“I have no idea,” she said. “Pray to God something happens. I don’t know what else to say or do.”

She's especially worried about her two cats and a dog, which will probably end up in a shelter. “Do you want my pets?” she asked a reporter.


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Kristen Bigogno cries as she stands amongst her belongings while being evicted from her home Friday, Sept. 17, 2021, in St. Louis. Bigogno is among thousands of Americans facing eviction now that the national moratorium has ended.
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Kristen Bigogno gathers up some of her belongings while being evicted from her home.
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Kristen Bigogno stands on the sidewalk after being evicted from her home.
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Kristen Bigogno sits on a curb with her belongings and her pets after being evicted from her home.
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Kristen Bigogno tosses some of her belongings off a balcony as a member of the St. Louis Sheriff's Department watches as Bigogno is evicted from her home.
 
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Hmm. So this is good news?
I don't know anyone who can be out of work for 3 months, yet pay their bills.
I also don't know anyone who can take off work for 3 months to nurse their loved ones.
The USA has stopped Covid financial safety nets. I guess they decided that Covid would be something in our past about now.
They were wrong. My Opinion.



Children and adolescents who are infected with Covid-19 rarely have symptoms that last for longer than 12 weeks, according to a review of international research.

The review, published in the Pediatric Infectious Disease Journal, suggests that long Covid in children and adolescents is less common than previously feared.

In the reviewed studies, the five most common long Covid symptoms reported in children and adolescents were headache, fatigue, sleep disturbance, concentration difficulties and abdominal pain.

In the majority of studies, symptoms did not last for longer than 12 weeks.

The research brief also found, however, that children and adolescents with pre-existing health conditions – including obesity, chronic kidney disease and immune disorders – were 25 times more likely to have severe Covid.

Long Covid in children and adolescents is less common than previously feared
 
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I hear you, hubby is 73, I am 67.
Hubby's work as a busy restaurant owner puts him on the Frontline every day.
Although double vaxed with Moderna, of course we worry.
This virus is a curse upon mankind.
In my opinion. Arrgggh!


DH and I had pretty much the same reaction to the announcement about a (Pfizer) booster. I'm 71, and DH will be 73 on October 1. We would be eligible for boosters around Thanksgiving having had our initial doses in early and late March. We won't be rushing out to get boosters until we know a lot more about how this determination was made and whether or not a booster is actually necessary and safe.




Children and adolescents who are infected with Covid-19 rarely have symptoms that last for longer than 12 weeks, according to a review of international research.

The review, published in the Pediatric Infectious Disease Journal, suggests that long Covid in children and adolescents is less common than previously feared.

In the reviewed studies, the five most common long Covid symptoms reported in children and adolescents were headache, fatigue, sleep disturbance, concentration difficulties and abdominal pain.

In the majority of studies, symptoms did not last for longer than 12 weeks.

The research brief also found, however, that children and adolescents with pre-existing health conditions – including obesity, chronic kidney disease and immune disorders – were 25 times more likely to have severe Covid.

Long Covid in children and adolescents is less common than previously feared
 
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Supreme Court ends federal eviction moratorium
St. Louis woman after eviction: 'I have no idea' what to do

Eviction Moratorium

ST. LOUIS (AP) — The knock on the door that Kristen Bigogno has long dreaded finally arrived Friday — two St. Louis deputies came to evict her, joined by a couple of other men there to change the locks on the apartment.

The eviction was months in the making, yet it felt sudden to Bigogno. The judgment against her was last winter, but thanks to a national moratorium, she got a reprieve that ended with a Supreme Court ruling last month.

She received her final notice on Tuesday. When two deputies pulled up around noon on Friday, she knew it was over.

Now, Bigogno, 39, doesn't know where she and her sons, ages 16 and 17, will live.

“I have no idea,” she said. “Pray to God something happens. I don’t know what else to say or do.”

She's especially worried about her two cats and a dog, which will probably end up in a shelter. “Do you want my pets?” she asked a reporter.


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Kristen Bigogno cries as she stands amongst her belongings while being evicted from her home Friday, Sept. 17, 2021, in St. Louis. Bigogno is among thousands of Americans facing eviction now that the national moratorium has ended.
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Kristen Bigogno gathers up some of her belongings while being evicted from her home.
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Kristen Bigogno stands on the sidewalk after being evicted from her home.
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Kristen Bigogno sits on a curb with her belongings and her pets after being evicted from her home.
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Kristen Bigogno tosses some of her belongings off a balcony as a member of the St. Louis Sheriff's Department watches as Bigogno is evicted from her home.

So, I guess asking why this Mother and her two sons can't get jobs, to pay rent, would be an inappropriate question?

St. Louis, Missouri Metropolitan Unemployment Rate and Total Unemployed | Department of Numbers

The unemployment rate is 3.8% in St. Louis. If they are disabled, there are programs.

Just saying, that there must be more to this story. I worked at homeless shelters...there is a lot missing from this story.
 
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So, I guess asking why this Mother and her two sons can't get jobs, to pay rent, would be an inappropriate question?
I hope the pets are OK. They have zero choices.
 
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So, I guess asking why this Mother and her two sons can't get jobs, to pay rent, would be an inappropriate question?

St. Louis, Missouri Metropolitan Unemployment Rate and Total Unemployed | Department of Numbers

The unemployment rate is 3.8% in St. Louis. If they are disabled, there are programs.

Just saying, that there must be more to this story. I worked at homeless shelters...there is a lot missing from this story.

From article:

The problem, Bigogno said, is that all that time in court fighting the eviction cost her her job, and she hasn't found new work. Landlords won't rent to her because she's unemployed, she said.

... ?
 
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Adelaide store owner bans vaccinated shoppers from his shop

The owner of 'Gigantic Signs' has banned shoppers who have received the vaccine from entering his store.

Peter King placed a sign in the storefront window of Gigantic Signs on King William Street in Kent Town, Adelaide.

A warning is written in bold red letters telling vaccinated residents they are no longer welcome.

'Do not enter if you have been Covid-19 vaxxed,' the sign reads.

Interesting to note, the business is for sale.

He doesn't mention anything about only unvaccinated people submitting offers. :D

I'd guess that he has just negated offers from at least 80% of any prospective buyers, because what Aussie wants to buy a business that has taken a published stance like that?

Business For Sale : All OFFERS CONSIDERED
“After 35+ years’ owning Gigantic Signs and LED Sign Supplies, it is time for me to ‘retire’. This business has served me very well over the years. It’s now to pursue other interests.”
Gigantic Signs Sale - Gigantic Signs
 
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From article:

The problem, Bigogno said, is that all that time in court fighting the eviction cost her her job, and she hasn't found new work. Landlords won't rent to her because she's unemployed, she said.

... ?

And her 16 year old, 17 year old sons couldn't have worked full time this summer? Or even two jobs?

There are jobs available. People are back to work. There have been tax credits for children, this family would have qualified for this, unemployment benefits have had extra funds. Last summer, People who were unemployed were receiving an extra $600 each week. Couldn't that money have been used for rent? Even now, people on unemployment were receiving extra benefits that just ended in September.

Yes, rent is expensive. Yes, it is terrible to be homeless. I just don't see that the United States is in such dire straits that people can't work, or reduce spending, and be able to pay rent. Or at least, move in with someone, a friend, relative, rent a single room, before getting evicted and having belongings thrown out.

There seems to be a problem here.
 
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And her 16 year old, 17 year old sons couldn't have worked full time this summer? Or even two jobs?

There are jobs available. People are back to work. There have been tax credits for children, this family would have qualified for this, unemployment benefits have had extra funds. Last summer, People who were unemployed were receiving an extra $600 each week. Couldn't that money have been used for rent? Even now, people on unemployment were receiving extra benefits that just ended in September.

Yes, rent is expensive. Yes, it is terrible to be homeless. I just don't see that the United States is in such dire straits that people can't work, or reduce spending, and be able to pay rent. Or at least, move in with someone, a friend, relative, rent a single room, before getting evicted and having belongings thrown out.

There seems to be a problem here.

I get what you’re saying @mickey2942. From where we sit, we see that this family had various options and possible solutions they could have pursued before being evicted. On the surface, they may even seem lazy. But I’ve come to realize that not everyone has learned to think of solutions and take appropriate action to solve their problems. That is a serious issue, both for individuals like Ms Bigogno and for those who try to help them and for society as a whole. As a late friend of my husband’s used to say “They don’t have that card in their deck.”

For example, I have a friend who had passivity and helplessness modeled by her parents. She’s a very intelligent and lovely person, and she’s not lazy, but she basically freezes when faced with a challenge. I’m among many friends who have helped her through various difficulties over the decades, trying to teach her to be assertive, make a plan and not procrastinate. But “learned helplessness” is a deeply entrenched personality trait that takes a lot of work to overcome. Now that my friend is over 80 it’s even worse. Although I want to be compassionate, sometimes I think I have “compassion fatigue.” Her “helplessness” is frustrating and I don’t like that I feel that way toward her, but I end up feeling drained and have to step back at times even though I love her. Then I take a deep breath, pray for patience and do what I can, knowing nothing will ever change.

It can be very hard for those of us who have been fortunate enough to learn to seek solutions to our own problems to understand and empathize with those who “don’t have that card in their deck.” I hope I can keep trying though. And I hope Ms Bogigno gets help with her immediate needs and can learn to overcome whatever caused her not to seek obvious solutions prior to eviction.

What Causes Learned Helplessness?
 
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I get what you’re saying @mickey2942. From where we sit, we see that this family had various options and possible solutions they could have pursued before being evicted. On the surface, they may even seem lazy. But I’ve come to realize that not everyone has learned to think of solutions and take appropriate action to solve their problems. That is a serious issue, both for individuals like Ms Bigogno and for those who try to help them and for society as a whole. As a late friend of my husband’s used to say “They don’t have that card in their deck.”

For example, I have a friend who had passivity and helplessness modeled by her parents. She’s a very intelligent and lovely person, and she’s not lazy, but she basically freezes when faced with a challenge. I’m among many friends who have helped her through various difficulties over the decades, trying to teach her to be assertive, make a plan and not procrastinate. But “learned helplessness” is a deeply entrenched personality trait that takes a lot of work to overcome. Now that my friend is over 80 it’s even worse. Although I want to be compassionate, sometimes I think I have “compassion fatigue.” Her “helplessness” is frustrating and I don’t like that I feel that way toward her, but I end up feeling drained and have to step back at times even though I love her. Then I take a deep breath, pray for patience and do what I can, knowing nothing will ever change.

It can be very hard for those of us who have been fortunate enough to learn to seek solutions to our own problems to understand and empathize with those who “don’t have that card in their deck.” I hope I can keep trying though. And I hope Ms Bogigno gets help with her immediate needs and can learn to overcome whatever caused her not to seek obvious solutions prior to eviction.

What Causes Learned Helplessness?
It does seem to be some people's destiny. And they will, unintentionally, drain the life out of any kind and supportive person they can. Do you know the fable of the man on the bridge? The Fable of the Bridge — who are you responsible for?

Food for thought.
 
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It does seem to be some people's destiny. And they will, unintentionally, drain the life out of any kind and supportive person they can. Do you know the fable of the man on the bridge? The Fable of the Bridge — who are you responsible for?

Food for thought.

I hadn’t ever read that fable before, @Satchie and it certainly is food for thought…both for individuals and as a society. It takes some honest introspection to know one's motivation for helping, find the balance of helping without being pulled off the bridge, as well as discern whether someone is truly “disabled” emotionally (in which case you try to pass the rope to someone else for awhile) or a deliberately malingering user (you refuse to hold the rope to begin with). Complex moral, ethical and psychological issues! I know most of us will “err” on the side of compassion until it becomes clear. I’d be interested in knowing how Ms Bogigno is doing in a couple of years. Hoping for the best. Time will tell.
 
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@Lilibet I am just very critical about news articles that have some sort of agenda. The United States was in a huge crisis last year, due to Covid-19 shutdown.

But now, we, as a society are learning to move forward. It looks like Covid-19 is here to stay, so people need to adapt. That means going back to work, living the "new" normal, whatever that is. Part of that "normalcy", is people pay their rent, or they are homeless. That is the way it is.

Landlords are not evil or mean. They provide housing for people who pay rent. If you can't pay, you need to leave. Not sure why there is so much drama about this issue in the United States.

Here's what renters can expect after the end of the federal eviction ban - CNN

Hopefully, this woman, and others like her, can get assistance with employment counseling, job placement, or file for disability.
 
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I’m probably more aware of the covid risks vs vaxxed than your average joe. I’d still prefer a choice of moderna as a booster for my young guy (18 and phizered). His paternal grandfather died very young (28?) of heart issue.
Any recent specifics on the mixing of vaxes? I’ve not been keeping up on that.
 
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One FL man’s harrowing Covid experience prompted at least 60 family, friends and colleagues to get vaccinated. They weren’t anti-vaxxers, but most had reservations about side-effects. Robby Walker needed an ECMO machine to have a chance of survival, and after a massive search of 169 hospitals in the south failed, he had to be flown 1200 miles to be treated in CT. He lost 50 lbs and was unable to stand without a walker…more at link.

After 169 hospitals, a dad finally got the Covid-19 care he needed -- and changed dozens of skeptics' minds - CNN
 
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I’m probably more aware of the covid risks vs vaxxed than your average joe. I’d still prefer a choice of moderna as a booster for my young guy (18 and phizered). His paternal grandfather died very young (28?) of heart issue.
Any recent specifics on the mixing of vaxes? I’ve not been keeping up on that.

It depends on where you live and what your son plans to do in the next few years. Some countries, like Canada, are mixing the vaccines, apparently without issues. However, some colleges and unis require two doses of the same vaccine. Some countries require two of the same vaccine for travel.

You may have to do a bit of research to find out what is best for your son.
 
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And her 16 year old, 17 year old sons couldn't have worked full time this summer? Or even two jobs?

There are jobs available. People are back to work. There have been tax credits for children, this family would have qualified for this, unemployment benefits have had extra funds. Last summer, People who were unemployed were receiving an extra $600 each week. Couldn't that money have been used for rent? Even now, people on unemployment were receiving extra benefits that just ended in September.

Yes, rent is expensive. Yes, it is terrible to be homeless. I just don't see that the United States is in such dire straits that people can't work, or reduce spending, and be able to pay rent. Or at least, move in with someone, a friend, relative, rent a single room, before getting evicted and having belongings thrown out.

There seems to be a problem here.
I’ve been a landlord and had to evict tenants.
It’s not want I wanted to do but after exhausting all avenues including setting up job interviews (never show up) and getting utility payment assistance, not even bothering to show up for court - it’s always the landlord’s fault.
It’s not an overnight process, tenants know for months in advance. Yet I never saw one that had anything packed up beforehand and it was a horrible scene when the deputies arrived to padlock the door.

Neighbors talk about the “nice people on the corner who were evicted (after a year of not paying rent) by that mean lady” - left beautiful houses in such bad shape they had to be gutted.
JMO
 
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Rowlett Restaurant Owner Explains No-Mask Policy After Asking Family To Leave
ROWLETT, Texas — It was last week when Natalie Wester and her husband went to Hang Time, a bar and restaurant in Rowlett, with a few friends. Something they say they don’t do often as new parents. “If you’ve ever been new parents, having those couple of hours out like once or twice a month is so important for your mental health,” Wester said.

They’re fully vaccinated, but say they choose to mask up when out to protect their immunocompromised four-month-old son. But once inside, they were told they had to take them off.

“Our waitress came over, sat down next to me and said, ‘Our manager told me to come over because I am nicer than he is… But this is political and I need you to take your masks off.'”
No masks allowed.

It’s a policy you don’t hear often amid the pandemic, but the owner says he considers it part of the dress code. Tom, the owner of Hang Time says it’s a private business and he has every right to refuse service to those who want to wear their mask.

“I have spent my money on the business, my blood sweat and tears in this business, and I don’t want masks in here,” Tom said. “I feel the overall reaction with masks is ridiculous in the United States right now,” Tom said.

“So when they put their masks on the other night, they were reminded to take it off. They didn’t want to, and so we asked them to leave,” the owner continued.

Rowlett Restaurant Owner Explains No-Mask Policy After Asking Family To Leave
 
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