Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #101

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  • #341
One of my doctors told me the other day that some nurses in our local hospital system are blowing the mandate out of proportion. She says they won't be fired, but can actually opt for regular testing, although they do go on disciplinary status and so they can make fewer mistakes before getting fired.

You wouldn't know that this is the case by their Facebook posts. It may be that way with other hospitals, too, although what we hear is - get the vaccine or get fired.
Why are they required to be tested regularly and not all employees? We now know that fully vaccinated people can contract and spread Covid. If any are required to be tested then all should be, not just a targeted group.
 
  • #342
Why are they required to be tested regularly and not all employees? We now know that fully vaccinated people can contract and spread Covid. If any are required to be tested then all should be, not just a targeted group.

Very few vaccinated people will become infected with covid and spread the virus. The pandemic is being driven largely by unvaccinated people. Seeing this, public health authorities and other governing bodies are doing everything they can to encourage vaccinations. It really is our best hope for bringing covid to an end.

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  • #343
Why are they required to be tested regularly and not all employees? We now know that fully vaccinated people can contract and spread Covid. If any are required to be tested then all should be, not just a targeted group.
I honestly have no idea. I'm guessing, though, that they simply have to be tested more often than the vaccinated. But all I know is what my neurologist told me.
 
  • #344
B.C. here. Oh my! We have one anti vax adult son in the family who is barely speaking to us as we were vaxxed at the earliest opportunity despite his amateur advice. Our daughters daughter ..my precious grand daughter is doing her practicums in respiratory therapy at our provinces major hospitals. Yesterday, she told my daughter that it was a relief to be transferred to the amputees ward for the day, due to a staff shortage, as at least the amputees could converse with her. That tells me she’s working directly with active incubated Covid patients almost all the time. Today, a sweet widowed friend emailed me saying she had thanksgiving dinner with another older widow ( both double vaxxed) who also invited a third friend. Halfway through dinner the third guest suddenly announced she was unvaccinated and did not believe in it. Needless to say, it put a major damper on the dinner....and has left my friend quite concerned. Who in the world accepts a dinner invitation with vaccinated careful people and then proudly makes that sort of announcement? I’m so tired of all the emotions, worry and upset. Well, aren’t we all.
 
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B.C. here. Oh my! We have one anti vax adult son in the family who is barely speaking to us as we were vaxxed at the earliest opportunity despite his amateur advice. Our daughters daughter ..my precious grand daughter is doing her practicums in respiratory therapy at our provinces major hospitals. Yesterday, she told my daughter that it was a relief to be transferred to the amputees ward for the day, due to a staff shortage, as at least the amputees could converse with her. That tells me she’s working directly with active incubated Covid patients almost all the time. Today, a sweet widowed friend emailed me saying she had thanksgiving dinner with another older widow ( both double vaxxed) who also invited a third friend. Halfway through dinner the third guest suddenly announced she was unvaccinated and did not believe in it. Needless to say, it put a major damper on the dinner....and has left my friend quite concerned. Who in the world accepts a dinner invitation with vaccinated careful people and then proudly makes that sort of announcement? I’m so tired of all the emotions, worry and upset. Well, aren’t we all.

<modsnip>I am sure this person never even considered the situation she put others in- the exposure to Covid--- sigh
 
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  • #346
So when you have a test showing you have Covid aren't you suppose to get re-tested, get a negative test, before going out around people? Or can you just wait X amount of days from time you have no more symptoms?
 
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Good News. I read about this tiny tyke and so happy to hear he is now home!

Tue, October 12, 2021, 5:42 PM

Toddler with COVID-19 home from the hospital

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(Reuters) - Adrian James, an Illinois toddler who just days ago was attached to a ventilator at a hospital as he fought a severe case of COVID-19, is home, his mother said Tuesday.

"So, so, so happy," Tiffany Jackson said in a text message, sharing photos of Adrian sitting up in bed and eating fries after more than a week of breathing and eating via tubes.

Adrian, who will be three years old next month, was airlifted on Oct. 1 to Cardinal Glennon Children's Hospital in St. Louis, about 80 miles from his family's hometown of Mount Vernon, Illinois.

Vaccines to prevent COVID-19 are not yet approved in the United States for children under the age of 12.

Jackson urges those who can be vaccinated to do so to protect others, along with wearing masks and physical distancing.

She said her doctor did not recommend the vaccine for her because of an earlier autoimmune response that her doctors said was related to a flu vaccine. Adrian's father has had one of two vaccine doses and plans to get the second.

Adrian is one of more than 860,000 children under the age of four to contract COVID-19 in the United States since the beginning of the pandemic, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). There have been more than 20,000 cases involving children under four since Adrian fell ill, CDC data show.

Still, less than 1% of children with reported cases of COVID-19 are hospitalized, and children account for 2.5% of all COVID-19 related hospitalizations, according to the American Academy of Pediatrics.
 
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My daughter suffered a breakthrough infection a couple of weeks ago--she'd been vaccinated with Moderna this past spring. She got pretty sick--sick enough to go to the ER for IV fluids--but not sick enough to go on a respirator. She's much better now.

She just turned 30, is in very good physical health, and works in law enforcement. I'm wondering if she got a high viral load because a number of the inmates tested positive before she did and some of them refuse to wear masks.

Meanwhile, the nursing home where my mom is staying is starting to see a decline in cases--the vast majority of cases there were in staff, not residents, which tells me that the vaccine is working. Plus, the residents qualified for booster shots.

Nationally, I think we're starting to see a downturn in infections, but how long can it be before the next variant pops up?
 
  • #349
Scientists say they have to know how Covid started in order to stop (hopefully) another pandemic.

The WHO will be announcing its new investigative team this week or next week. Meanwhile, the public is beginning to understand the high level of risk from gain-of-function testing. No one yet knows for sure if Covid is zoonotic or whether it leaked from a lab, but we do know Peter Daszak of Eco-Health Alliance is up to his ears in fudging his involvement in promoting gain-of-function testing.

Some well-respected media outlets are now addressing the subject. My opinion is that whether or not Covid leaked from a lab is secondary to stopping this type of research. When the world discovered nuclear weapons were a threat to humanity, they put heavy and burdensome restrictions on proliferation. The world also stepped up against human cloning.

As of now, more than 4.8 million have died from covid. Now that we've seen how devastating a virus can be, I think we have to address protecting humanity from the mad scientist types who are bound and determined to make viruses more deadly. I'm glad to see other scientists now stepping up and confronting them.

For anyone interested, here are some enlightening articles:

Leave The Bats Alone: It’s Long Past Time To Halt Gain-Of-Function Research On Deadly Viruses

The Lab-Leak Debate Just Got Even Messier
 
  • #350
I keep seeing patients who are still too afraid of getting the COVID-19 vaccine: Doctor

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Dr. Thomas K. Lew after his COVID-19 vaccination on Dec. 18, 2020, in Pleasanton, California.

A man recently brought his elderly mother to my hospital – she was very ill with sepsis, a life-threatening reaction to an infection. It took significant effort to save her life, involving ventilators, large IVs in the neck and extended rounds of powerful antibiotics.

Her son told us she had been suffering with a bad urinary tract infection for a week before coming. It was easily treatable at that point, but because he waited, it spread to the blood. He said he was afraid to bring her into the hospital earlier, because he feared we would force the COVID-19 vaccination on her.

I had a long conversation with the son of the elderly woman with sepsis. The first thing he said was that he wished he had brought her in sooner.

We then discussed his fear of vaccination against COVID-19 – despite taking all other recommended vaccinations in his life, he had been poisoned by misinformation from social media and conservative “news” shows. Dispelling these myths took some time, but eventually he was happy to ask for vaccinations for his mother and himself.

It is not uncommon for me to make my rounds on patients sick with COVID-19, suffering from dangerously low oxygen levels, only to find out that their husband or wife is having the same illness in the room next door. Whole families are deciding not to get vaccinated because they are, they say, afraid of side effects; still waiting for research; or do not trust Dr. Anthony Fauci or the government.

To those who still have reservations against vaccination – listen, you are running out of excuses. As the delta variant continues, we need everyone to buy in and protect themselves and others.
 
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Brazil’s far-right President Jair Bolsonaro has said he did not want to be “bored” with questions about the country’s coronavirus death toll, just days after Brazil became the second country in the world to surpass 600,000 fatalities.

Brazil surpassed 600,000 coronavirus deaths on Friday, the country’s health ministry announced, spurring more public anger against Bolsonaro’s handling of the pandemic.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021...-says-he-is-bored-with-covid-deaths-questions
 
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If the vaccination works then those that are not vaccinated are not vaccinated are not a risk to those that are vaccinated. The excuse that they need to get vaccinated to protect those that are vaccinated just doesn’t make sense.

Not everyone can get vaccinated like kids and people on immunosuppressive meds etc.... When your vaccinated it helps protect them.
 
  • #355
Went to the grocery store which is situated in a mall. New rules - when you first enter - you have to show your I.D. & a vaccine certificate - if you don't have one (cert) - you can't enter. And of course wearing a mask! I of course got in!
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  • #356
Went to the grocery store which is situated in a mall. New rules - when you first enter - you have to show your I.D. & a vaccine certificate - if you don't have one (cert) - you can't enter. And of course wearing a mask! I of course got in!
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Wow Niner, impressive measures! I'd be up for that - all my family and friends would get in ok :D
 
  • #357
Went to the grocery store which is situated in a mall. New rules - when you first enter - you have to show your I.D. & a vaccine certificate - if you don't have one (cert) - you can't enter. And of course wearing a mask! I of course got in!
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Went to the grocery store which is situated in a mall. New rules - when you first enter - you have to show your I.D. & a vaccine certificate - if you don't have one (cert) - you can't enter. And of course wearing a mask! I of course got in!
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Where is that?
 
  • #358
Where is that?

In Latvia... our COVID cases have sky rocketed - so the legislature put out "new" rules starting last Oct. 11th. And most stores in malls - like clothing - non essential items stores - will be closed on weekends. I believe for 3 months...
 
  • #359
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Vaccinated people are less likely to infect others.

Vaccinated people are less likely to become infected.

Unvaccinated people are more likely to infect others.

Unvaccinated people are more likely to become infected.

Not sure if I see this as science or maths, but to me it makes total sense.
 
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