Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #101

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  • #741
I took my little guy (finally) to get his first 5-11 shot 2 days ago. His was administered by a registered nurse who was wonderfully accurate which gave no pain. No side effect at all, save a slight soreness in the deltoid. 12 days from now, we can finally start to breathe a little.
 
  • #742
If I understand the story correctly, word got around that the nurse would give "fake" shots for those who didn't want them but needed a vaccine verification card. She might have given real shots to some, but others sought her out specifically so they could get vaccine verification without getting the real shot.

JMOO

Of course word got around. Why would the nurse risk her career for a scheme that is so obviously doomed to failure? One thing about this pandemic is that it is sifting out the dregs among health care providers.

From the article:
Christina Hartmann Benz, 51, was granted bail with strict conditions in the Perth Magistrates Court on Monday after she allegedly asked if she could administer the vaccine to family and friends at a private medical centre in Victoria Park on the weekend.

The police prosecutor told the court staff said they noticed up to 25 people come into the clinic specifically asking for the registered nurse.

The court heard it raised their concerns and the clinic's owner Sean Stevens indicated he would stay and observe her administering the vaccine.

Nurse who allegedly faked giving teen a COVID vaccine charged with fraud
 
  • #743
Of course word got around. Why would the nurse risk her career for a scheme that is so obviously doomed to failure? One thing about this pandemic is that it is sifting out the dregs among health care providers.

From the article:
Christina Hartmann Benz, 51, was granted bail with strict conditions in the Perth Magistrates Court on Monday after she allegedly asked if she could administer the vaccine to family and friends at a private medical centre in Victoria Park on the weekend.

The police prosecutor told the court staff said they noticed up to 25 people come into the clinic specifically asking for the registered nurse.

The court heard it raised their concerns and the clinic's owner Sean Stevens indicated he would stay and observe her administering the vaccine.

Nurse who allegedly faked giving teen a COVID vaccine charged with fraud

It makes one wonder how common this is. I'm always struck by the number of health care professionals opposed to the vaccine. There must quite a few providers willing to shoot the vax in the sink and register the "patient" as vaccinated. Which also begs the question of why athletes like Aaron Rodgers and Kyrie Irving didn't just go that route - it almost seems like it's about more than just not wanting to be vaccinated.
 
  • #744
It makes one wonder how common this is. I'm always struck by the number of health care professionals opposed to the vaccine. There must quite a few providers willing to shoot the vax in the sink and register the "patient" as vaccinated. Which also begs the question of why athletes like Aaron Rodgers and Kyrie Irving didn't just go that route - it almost seems like it's about more than just not wanting to be vaccinated.

Quote:

"it almost seems like it's about more than just not wanting to be vaccinated."

Making a statement.
 
  • #745
It makes one wonder how common this is. I'm always struck by the number of health care professionals opposed to the vaccine. There must quite a few providers willing to shoot the vax in the sink and register the "patient" as vaccinated. Which also begs the question of why athletes like Aaron Rodgers and Kyrie Irving didn't just go that route - it almost seems like it's about more than just not wanting to be vaccinated.
Because it's likely not that easy to find a health care professional willing to do that, as if found out, their career would presumably be over.
 
  • #746
  • #747
Quote:

"it almost seems like it's about more than just not wanting to be vaccinated."

Making a statement.
There are A LOT of healthcare providers who are vaccinated but strongly disagree with forcing people to get vaccinated in order to remain employed. It IS a statement by some, I’m sure, that they’re not willing to allow the government tell them what they must do with their own body.

I got vaccinated in the very first wave of healthcare providers, but I don’t agree with what’s coming down from CMS right now. It’s not right IMO.
 
  • #748
Austria is 'days away' from placing millions of unvaccinated people under lockdown | Daily Mail Online

Austria is days away from placing millions of people not fully vaccinated against COVID-19 on lockdown Chancellor Alexander Schallenberg said today.

The nation's current rate of infection is at an all-time high and has placed intensive-care units under increasing pressure.

Once 30 per cent of intensive-care beds are occupied by COVID-19 patients, people not vaccinated against the coronavirus will be placed under lockdown, according to an incremental plan agreed by the government in September.

The current level is 20 per cent and rising fast.

Around 65 per cent of Austria's population is fully vaccinated against the coronavirus, the lowest rate of any Western European country apart from tiny Liechtenstein, according to European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control data.

'According to the incremental plan we actually have just days until we have to introduce the lockdown for unvaccinated people,' Schallenberg told a news conference in the westernmost province of Vorarlberg, adding that Austria's vaccination rate is 'shamefully low'.
 
  • #749
Austria is 'days away' from placing millions of unvaccinated people under lockdown | Daily Mail Online

Austria is days away from placing millions of people not fully vaccinated against COVID-19 on lockdown Chancellor Alexander Schallenberg said today.

The nation's current rate of infection is at an all-time high and has placed intensive-care units under increasing pressure.

Once 30 per cent of intensive-care beds are occupied by COVID-19 patients, people not vaccinated against the coronavirus will be placed under lockdown, according to an incremental plan agreed by the government in September.

The current level is 20 per cent and rising fast.

Around 65 per cent of Austria's population is fully vaccinated against the coronavirus, the lowest rate of any Western European country apart from tiny Liechtenstein, according to European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control data.

'According to the incremental plan we actually have just days until we have to introduce the lockdown for unvaccinated people,' Schallenberg told a news conference in the westernmost province of Vorarlberg, adding that Austria's vaccination rate is 'shamefully low'.
If the majority of the population believe in what is being posted by commenters on that article....:eek:
 
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  • #751
There are A LOT of healthcare providers who are vaccinated but strongly disagree with forcing people to get vaccinated in order to remain employed. It IS a statement by some, I’m sure, that they’re not willing to allow the government tell them what they must do with their own body.

I got vaccinated in the very first wave of healthcare providers, but I don’t agree with what’s coming down from CMS right now. It’s not right IMO.

Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services?

What are they doing?
 
  • #752
Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services?

What are they doing?

Maybe this? It seems like a sound initiative to me.
Who the heck wants their medical provider to be unvaccinated?? imo


On November 5, 2021, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) issued an emergency regulation, requiring the workforce of Medicare- and Medicaid- certified providers and suppliers to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 in order for Medicare and Medicaid facilities to continue participation in those programs.

Noncompliance with the emergency regulation may result in the termination of Medicare and Medicaid provider status and could also subject providers and suppliers to civil monetary penalties and denial of payment.

FAQs: CMS Issues Emergency Regulation Mandating Workforce COVID-19 Vaccinations by Medicare/Medicaid-Certified Providers and Suppliers | JD Supra

The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services Issues Rule Mandating COVID-19 Vaccinations for Certain Healthcare Staff
 
  • #753
Maybe this? It seems like a sound initiative to me.
Who the heck wants their medical provider to be unvaccinated?? imo


On November 5, 2021, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) issued an emergency regulation, requiring the workforce of Medicare- and Medicaid- certified providers and suppliers to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 in order for Medicare and Medicaid facilities to continue participation in those programs.

Noncompliance with the emergency regulation may result in the termination of Medicare and Medicaid provider status and could also subject providers and suppliers to civil monetary penalties and denial of payment.

FAQs: CMS Issues Emergency Regulation Mandating Workforce COVID-19 Vaccinations by Medicare/Medicaid-Certified Providers and Suppliers | JD Supra

The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services Issues Rule Mandating COVID-19 Vaccinations for Certain Healthcare Staff

It seems like a sound idea at first glance, but given the number of health care professionals refusing to be vaccinated, what if my doctor is one of them and now Medicare won’t pay my bill? The unintended consequences of this emergency regulation could be catastrophic. So often a “solution” the government comes up with creates unforeseen problems. I hope it motivates these providers to get vaccinated, but I’m not confident it will, per the explanation by @nightowl1975 and what I know of the situation locally.
 
  • #754
There is a salon in my city that sent out a text message to its client list yesterday (I received the message even though it has been ages since I have been there, for a Mothers Day treat).

"Dear (client name), To ensure the safety of our staff, clients and the wider community we take this opportunity to advise you that (their business name) will be requring all clients to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 in order to enter the salon from 23 November 2021.
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to call me, (salon owner and phone number)"


Noting that 23rd Nov is the date my state opens its borders to the eastern states that have been/are having covid outbreaks.

imo
 
  • #755
Covid vaccine mandates push some holdouts to get the shot — and then 'detox' (nbcnews.com)

As mandates spread, anti-vaccine groups have been trafficking in pseudoscience treatments meant to remove or counteract the vaccines. Experts say it's like trying to "unring a bell."

In a TikTok video that has garnered hundreds of thousands of views, Dr. Carrie Madej outlined the ingredients for a bath she said will “detox the vaxx” for people who have given into Covid-19 vaccine mandates.

The ingredients in the bath are mostly not harmful, although the supposed benefits attached to them are entirely fictional. Baking soda and epsom salts, she falsely claims, will provide a “radiation detox” to remove radiation Madej falsely believes is activated by the vaccine. Bentonite clay will add a “major pull of poison,” she says, based on a mistaken idea in anti-vaccine communities that toxins can be removed from the body with certain therapies.

Then, recommends adding in one cup of borax, a cleaning agent that’s been banned as a food additive by the Food and Drug Administration, to “take nanotechnologies out of you.”...
 
  • #756
Covid vaccine mandates push some holdouts to get the shot — and then 'detox' (nbcnews.com)

As mandates spread, anti-vaccine groups have been trafficking in pseudoscience treatments meant to remove or counteract the vaccines. Experts say it's like trying to "unring a bell."

In a TikTok video that has garnered hundreds of thousands of views, Dr. Carrie Madej outlined the ingredients for a bath she said will “detox the vaxx” for people who have given into Covid-19 vaccine mandates.

The ingredients in the bath are mostly not harmful, although the supposed benefits attached to them are entirely fictional. Baking soda and epsom salts, she falsely claims, will provide a “radiation detox” to remove radiation Madej falsely believes is activated by the vaccine. Bentonite clay will add a “major pull of poison,” she says, based on a mistaken idea in anti-vaccine communities that toxins can be removed from the body with certain therapies.

Then, recommends adding in one cup of borax, a cleaning agent that’s been banned as a food additive by the Food and Drug Administration, to “take nanotechnologies out of you.”...

It will be interesting to see if those ingredients become in short supply, like what happened with horse pills at TSC.
 
  • #757
  • #758
Oh my o_O goodness.

Covid vaccine mandates push some holdouts to get the shot — and then 'detox' (nbcnews.com)

As mandates spread, anti-vaccine groups have been trafficking in pseudoscience treatments meant to remove or counteract the vaccines. Experts say it's like trying to "unring a bell."

In a TikTok video that has garnered hundreds of thousands of views, Dr. Carrie Madej outlined the ingredients for a bath she said will “detox the vaxx” for people who have given into Covid-19 vaccine mandates.

The ingredients in the bath are mostly not harmful, although the supposed benefits attached to them are entirely fictional. Baking soda and epsom salts, she falsely claims, will provide a “radiation detox” to remove radiation Madej falsely believes is activated by the vaccine. Bentonite clay will add a “major pull of poison,” she says, based on a mistaken idea in anti-vaccine communities that toxins can be removed from the body with certain therapies.

Then, recommends adding in one cup of borax, a cleaning agent that’s been banned as a food additive by the Food and Drug Administration, to “take nanotechnologies out of you.”...
 
  • #759
I don't see an issue with anti-vaxxers getting vaxxed then trying to detox with a soak bath. They should go for it. Throw in some ivermectin for good measure.
 
  • #760
I don't see an issue with anti-vaxxers getting vaxxed then trying to detox with a soak bath. They should go for it. Throw in some ivermectin for good measure.

Add some bleach and ultra-violet light, too :D
 
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