Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #112

  • #561
I wouldn't make an appt before your 6 mo anniversary. That's who turned me away for being 5 days early. Now, if only their online scheduler would know that and not let me make an appt too early! It was a waste of time going down there for nothing. :(
The Rite Aid is in the same town as where I'll be going on Wednesday for my doctor's appointment. And I have other errands at the Rite Aid itself (getting a passport photo so I can get a current passport, to prepare for the unstable unknown future ☹️).

So I figured it would be good to try to get the covid vax *before* it's been fully six months, to test out whether they are keeping track in the way they have in your case. If they say no and I have to wait a few weeks, that's not a big deal, I can do that.

I don't make appointments for the vaccines though, I just go ask at the pharmacy counter. Maybe that's just because it's in a small town and there is rarely a wait line if more than one person? In any case, I'll report back how it goes.
 
  • #562
This is interesting. I've gotten my last several covid vaxxes at Rite Aid, ever since our County Public Health stopped providing them. I know I always have to fill out the form asking if I'm ill that day or have had any other vaccines in the past four weeks.

But I have no idea if it goes into my account or not. I don't even know if I *HAVE* a Rite Aid account! I guess I do, but I don't know how to access it from home.

But I've just remembered something else. Last year sometime, I came across a statewide vax database and looked myself up. Most of my vaxes seemed to be there, but not necessarily all of them. I'll see if I can find it again and post the link here.

EDIT: Here is the page for California's vaccine database. I'd assume most states have this. Digital Vaccine Record
I still get emailed an official Ireland/EU digital vaccine certificate for travel every time I get a Covid shot, no matter whether I get it in a pharmacy or a doctor's clinic, or a vaccination centre like we had in the early years of the pandemic. It always surprises me when it arrives as I haven't needed it for anything since 2021-2022. The document is updated with my most recent vaccine type and date. The digital passports haven't been required anywhere since 2023 I think.
 
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  • #563
This is interesting. I've gotten my last several covid vaxxes at Rite Aid, ever since our County Public Health stopped providing them. I know I always have to fill out the form asking if I'm ill that day or have had any other vaccines in the past four weeks.

But I have no idea if it goes into my account or not. I don't even know if I *HAVE* a Rite Aid account! I guess I do, but I don't know how to access it from home.

But I've just remembered something else. Last year sometime, I came across a statewide vax database and looked myself up. Most of my vaxes seemed to be there, but not necessarily all of them. I'll see if I can find it again and post the link here.

EDIT: Here is the page for California's vaccine database. I'd assume most states have this. Digital Vaccine Record

Yeah, my record doesn't show all my recent shots. It has all the ones from pharmacies, but not the ones I got from my PCP.
 
  • #564

The number of measles cases associated with an outbreak in western Texas has grown to 400, with 73 cases reported over the last three days, according to new data released Friday.

Almost all of the cases are in unvaccinated individuals or in individuals whose vaccination status is unknown, according to the Texas Department of State Health Services (DSHS). At least 41 people have been hospitalized so far.

Children and teenagers between ages 5 and 17 make up the majority of cases at 164, followed by children ages 4 and under comprising 131 cases, according to the data.

It comes as the CDC has so far confirmed 483 measles cases this year in at least 19 states: Alaska, California, Florida, Georgia, Kansas, Kentucky, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont and Washington.
 
  • #565
Second case of measles in Michigan:

I had labs this morning for my annual physical next week. Confirmation call suggests that all patients should "bring" a mask - I always have a clean mask in my purse. Exterior door to medical office has sign that indicates patients with respiratory or gastro-intestinal symptoms must wear a mask.
 
  • #566
Second case of measles in Michigan:

I had labs this morning for my annual physical next week. Confirmation call suggests that all patients should "bring" a mask - I always have a clean mask in my purse. Exterior door to medical office has sign that indicates patients with respiratory or gastro-intestinal symptoms must wear a mask.
Just a guess... is your area having a bump up of Covid and/or other respiratory cases?
 
  • #567
@Gemmie I don't know if you'll find this encouraging or discouraging, but today I went into my local Rite Aid and asked for a covid booster, and -- they gave it to me, even though my last one was October 18, which means it was 16 days shy of six months.

I specifically wanted to try to get it before six months in order to compare to your experience.

You mentioned making an appointment -- could it be that the schedulers have some six month rule but the actual pharmacies/pharmacists don't care? I mean, what if you didn't make an appointment but just went in and asked for it?
 
  • #568
@Gemmie I don't know if you'll find this encouraging or discouraging, but today I went into my local Rite Aid and asked for a covid booster, and -- they gave it to me, even though my last one was October 18, which means it was 16 days shy of six months.

I specifically wanted to try to get it before six months in order to compare to your experience.

You mentioned making an appointment -- could it be that the schedulers have some six month rule but the actual pharmacies/pharmacists don't care? I mean, what if you didn't make an appointment but just went in and asked for it?
Thanks, @Auntie Cipation. Appreciate you doing that experiment! Yes, I made an appointment online, BUT, I don't think that's why I wasn't able to get it 5 days early. If anything, the scheduling tool should have told me "Too early, pick a date after XX/XX". They pulled me up in their computer when checking me in and that's when they realized I was 5 days too early and turned me down. That makes me think that the appt didn't matter as it was once they pulled me up in their computer.

So my questions to you (and them, if you want to further your experiment. :))... Do they track people's vaccines (what and when) in their system? Do they have a rule about vaccine timing?

What's interesting is you didn't just go to any national pharmacy, who might have different rules than Rite Aid, you went to the same pharmacy chain! That makes me wonder if each store has their own set of rules.

For instance (this is kinda the same, kinda not), not all Dr's offices have the same rules on who can get a covid vaccine and when. I can NOT imagine that every single Dr's office across America has a rule that says people (including those over 65) can only get ONE Covid vaccine a year. Yet my Dr's office said they don't allow them every 6 months and don't go by the CDC rules. Say what?!? They only said that when I pulled out my card hoping they'd write down the info on it (like they used to do). At first the nurse said "We don't fill those out anymore", but I had been nice, and making them laugh earlier, so she probably figured "Well, she's a nice lady, I'll fill her card out even though we don't normally do it". That is when she saw it was ~6 months after the last one, and that's when she said "they don't allow them every 6 months and they don't go by the CDC rules". :eek:

So, I brought that up because even through we both went to a Rite Aid... they might have different rules. OR, the person processing you didn't notice. I doubt the computer throws up a blinking red TOO EARLY pop-up. I'm thinking the person would have to do the math. You know, sorta like those signs at liquor stores that say... "Must Be 21 Years Of Age Born On Or Before Today's Date". That's what I'm thinking happened. Mine noticed, yours did not, cuz it doesn't appear it's their computer throwing the block up after hearing about your experiment.

Thank you for not only doing that, but for getting back to us with your results!!! 🌹
 
  • #569
@Gemmie I live in a very remote corner of the state and there is definitely a "rules don't apply to us" attitude here.

However it's hard for me to imagine that the Rite Aid staff ignored or didn't notice a computerized deadline/time requirement.

Could it be an insurance rule rather than a Rite Aid rule? I am covered by Medi-Cal, California's version of Medicaid. Maybe private insurers or outside of California government options have the six month rule but Medi-Cal doesn't?

Separately, I will also add that I got the Pfizer Comirnaty vax this time (I wasn't offered a choice, guessing that's all they had, especially in springtime when there is no new formulation of the vaccine).

Fortunately that is the one I prefer. I'm having no side effects -- no dizzyness or body aches, don't feel like I have a fever, even my arm is not sore except right at the injection site!
 
  • #570
Another update: When I checked my "California Vaccine Database" last night, the vaccine I had gotten earlier that day was not yet listed. I wondered how many days or weeks it might take before they updated. Well, the answer is roughly 24 hours. I just checked again and it's now listed.
 
  • #571
RiteAid threw up a red flag when I tried to get vaccinated 5 days before my 6 month anniversary.
Wow! Talk about a timely newsletter! Hot off the press!!! This TOTALLY addresses why I was turned away, 5 days before my 6 months was up. At least they are aware and working on the issue!

And WHOA at some pharmacy's requiring a prescription! They aren't needed. Just wow. Glad this is getting addressed! While this is specific to Oregon, other's across the states (and globally) might be running into the same problem so I'm posting this since it could help others, plus I had brought up being turned away when I was 5 days early. I think I'll also contact them in the event they weren't aware that the pharmacy I went to also did this.

State pharmacy board addresses problems getting additional dose of 2024-2025 COVID-19 vaccine

OHA is aware that some people ages 65+ are running into problems at pharmacies getting a second dose of the 2024-2025 COVID-19 vaccine if they haven’t waited a full six months after receiving their first dose.

For clarification, the recommendation from the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) states that people ages 65+ are eligible for a second dose of the 2024-2025 COVID-19 vaccine six months after receiving the first dose, but that it’s OK if someone wants to get it as soon as two months after. People are not required to have a prescription.


From the CDC: While it is recommended [for people ages 65+] to get 2024-2025 COVID-19 vaccine doses 6 months apart, the minimum time is 2 months apart, which allows flexibility to get the second dose prior to typical COVID-19 surges, travel, life events, and healthcare visits.
Although the Oregon Board of Pharmacy (OBOP) protocol (which every pharmacist licensed in the State of Oregon must follow) reflects the CDC’s recommendation, we have determined that some pharmacies in Oregon may be misinterpreting the protocol. As a result, they are not offering the second dose to some people, and in some cases requiring a prescription.

Rest assured the OBOP is aware of this issue and will work to increase awareness by reminding its licensees to follow board-approved protocols when providing vaccines, or patient care services.


 
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  • #572
@Gemmie Glad you found the answer! Darn pedantic Oregon pharmacies!
 
  • #573
Just a guess... is your area having a bump up of Covid and/or other respiratory cases?
Not that I'm aware of. Most recent "What's Going Around" report from local TV physician indicated that there isn't much disease activity in the tri-county area (Detroit and suburbs). Throughout the winter, there were more cases of flu than Covid as well as Norovirus and RSV. Among vaccinated persons, flu was much milder (no hospitalization) than those who did not get this year's flu shot.

I am very worried about the massive layoffs and other changes to national health agencies. I don't think all these staff cutbacks and sketchy people heading various departments bodes well for our country. I'm sure there has been waste and fraud within HHS, but the chainsaw approach to trimming and reshaping the department is probably going to have devastating results for the health of our nation. JMO
 
  • #574
Wow! Talk about a timely newsletter! Hot off the press!!! This TOTALLY addresses why I was turned away, 5 days before my 6 months was up. At least they are aware and working on the issue!

State pharmacy board addresses problems getting additional dose of 2024-2025 COVID-19 vaccine

<snip>

I wanted to update folks about this. After finally finding the right number to call, and then FINALLY making it through their automaton voice system, I reached a live person that actually knew what I was talking about. She asked me to send an email, outlining the issue I experienced, so she could get it to the right group who is working on educating these pharmacies that we don't have to wait EXACTLY 6 months (and no prescription required). I wanted to make sure they had the pharmacy I had that issue with when I was turned away from being 5 days early, in the event they weren't aware that they were also a problem pharmacy.

I feel so much better after sending off the email they requested! Hopefully no one else faces this same issue that my mother and I did. When we want it, we want it! Plus, some are planning their lives around 1 down day.
 
  • #575
Not that I'm aware of. Most recent "What's Going Around" report from local TV physician indicated that there isn't much disease activity in the tri-county area (Detroit and suburbs). Throughout the winter, there were more cases of flu than Covid as well as Norovirus and RSV. Among vaccinated persons, flu was much milder (no hospitalization) than those who did not get this year's flu shot.

I am very worried about the massive layoffs and other changes to national health agencies. I don't think all these staff cutbacks and sketchy people heading various departments bodes well for our country. I'm sure there has been waste and fraud within HHS, but the chainsaw approach to trimming and reshaping the department is probably going to have devastating results for the health of our nation. JMO
I too am very worried about the loss of so much expertise and experience in our government and the installation of extremely unqualified leadership. The chainsaw approach is a disaster. MOO
 
  • #576
I am very worried about the fate of vaccines -all of them, but especially Covid vaccines. Some alarming trends under RFK Jr's leadership are already evident.

First, the FDA senior leadership either resigned or was fired, and the approval for Novavax was delayed indefinitely instead of on April 1st as expected. Novavax is an important Covid vaccine that is not an mRNA vaccine - it is prepared in media like the influenza vaccine. From other material I've read, it appears that the FDA will repeal the Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) used for all of the available mRNA vaccines. The intent appears to be the elimination of COVID vaccines in the US.

The new FDA leadership has also obstructed the vaccine formulation for the coming influenza season by canceling the meeting where the strains were approved. A meeting may have occurred later, but possibly too late to address the formulation. Manufacturers are moving ahead with WHO guidance only.

RFK Jr has also empowered new staffers who are proponents of the discredited link between vaccines and autism.

I think these moves may tie the hands of vaccine manufacturers, and make vaccines impossible to access in the US.

JMO
 
  • #577
It appears that Pfizer's Comirnaty vaccine for COVID now has a regular FDA authorization instead of an EUA for 2024, and it's the only one. But Moderna's does not. I don't know enough about these approvals to understand whether the vaccines need to be approved again as they are reformulated for the newest strains.

But I have no doubt that the HHS will try and limit the availability of vaccines.
 
  • #578
My daughter is an NP and she recommends that my internist review my immunization records for DPT.
 
  • #579
RFK Jr has also empowered new staffers who are proponents of the discredited link between vaccines and autism.
*respectfully snipped for focus**
Well-known anti-vaxxers have been put in charge of the new committee to study the relationship of childhood vaccinations to autism. Seems to me that the goal is to have this committee determine that vaccinations do, indeed, cause autism so they can get rid of childhood vaccinations. Funding for some childhood vaccination programs has already been cut, so it's probably just a matter of time before parents won't get their children vaccinated if it's not free. I'm afraid that our country will soon be facing a resurgence of childhood diseases that were once considered extinct. How is this going to "make America healthy again"? JMO

 
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  • #580
Here's something scary:

My neighbor is a 50 year old woman who works out all the time, loves hiking, and is very healthy. She's an electrician, and because of that she's in and out of a lot of homes as well as having 3 high school kids herself. And that's likely how she got Covid five times.

She started noticing problems with walking back in October, and then other weird symptoms started popping up.

She just posted last night that she's been diagnosed with multiple sclerosis. She has no family history of it and no other health issues/familial history of health issues. We live in a big city with major teaching/research hospital, and her medical team is pretty sure her MS is a direct result of getting Covid five times. She starts her infusion treatment in a few weeks.
 

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