Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #112

[Gemmie]

I thought Oregon, Washington and California were going to create their own group to approve use of COVID 19 vaccines? Yes, they are. They will supersede the CDC for now.

California, Oregon, and Washington to launch new West Coast Health Alliance to uphold scientific integrity in public health as Trump destroys CDC’s credibility | Governor of California

www.gov.ca.gov

Yeah, I remember that too. But what I posted was today's news so not sure what to think now. I THINK it will depend on the pharmacy. I'm going to make calls after lunch to see if any are offering shots to those over 65 WITHOUT a prescription. And if I find one, I'll be there so fast my hair will fly out behind me as I sprint to the counter from my car.

 

[Betty P]

Pharmacies have done Covid in Ohio for a long time, all through the pandemic and before. It used to be the easiest place to get your flu shot and others.

If your state approves it, there probably isn't much the federal government can do to stop it.

 

[Teche]

I went to my parish health unit Friday for another immunization and they have yet to receive the shipment of Covid vaccines. They are waiting health unit is waiting for government clarification. My local Costco has yet to receive the vaccines.

 

[Gemmie]

I went to my parish health unit Friday for another immunization and they have yet to receive the shipment of Covid vaccines. They are waiting health unit is waiting for government clarification. My local Costco has yet to receive the vaccines.

Yep, it's too early IMO. It's really making me wonder if those that recently were vaccinated got the old or the new vaccine. We had that problem here a few years back where the first 20 or so people were all given the old formula. Unfortunately they had to wait 6(?) months before getting what they had thought they were receiving.

What I'm hoping is that that clarification is done in the next few weeks so we call can get vaccinated and move on with our lives.

Has anyone heard a timeline on that? I Googled for it the other day and came up blank.

 

[Gemmie]

Something to keep in mind for pet owners. Unsure if you're all aware that our pets, and wild animals, can all catch covid, unfortunately.

Dogs exposed to COVID-positive people show increased risk of infection​

Dogs exposed to COVID-positive people show increased risk of infection

The findings provide evidence of SARS-CoV-2 spillover from people to pet dogs and underscore the importance of continued surveillance in pets.

www.cidrap.umn.edu

It's meant to be funny, but it's really not, sadly.

Pic source.

 

[gremlin444]

Yep, it's too early IMO. It's really making me wonder if those that recently were vaccinated got the old or the new vaccine. We had that problem here a few years back where the first 20 or so people were all given the old formula. Unfortunately they had to wait 6(?) months before getting what they had thought they were receiving.

What I'm hoping is that that clarification is done in the next few weeks so we call can get vaccinated and move on with our lives.

Has anyone heard a timeline on that? I Googled for it the other day and came up blank.

I know for sure that my booster I got on Saturday from CVS in IL is the current one--it shows me on my CVS vaccination record:

 

[charminglane]

I know for sure that my booster I got on Saturday from CVS in IL is the current one--it shows me on my CVS vaccination record:

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Me, too.
It's on their website as well.

 

[Gemmie]

GTK @gremlin444 & @charminglane! I was worried about that! Now for me to find a place to get the vaccine. So far I keep hitting roadblocks. It's still early (I have to remind myself).

 

[IceIce9]

Who do you trust when it comes to vaccines and health standards? Hear what fellow Hoosiers think

The Indiana Public Health Association calls the leadership changes and vaccine policy changes at the CDC a crisis.

www.wthr.com

WTHR asked some Indiana residents their opinions about vaccines.

Darren Daugherty said you can't trust everything on the internet and that he prefers home remedies over vaccines.

"I just look up a lot of like home remedies for ways to get rid of colds and all that," Daugherty said

Another added, "I really don't think vaccines really do anything."

One of the people 13News asked happens to work as an emergency medical physician for more than 40 years. Gregory Wall said in all his years practicing medicine, he didn't expect to ever see people in charge of agencies disagree with the medical community.

"The medical community is marginalized in this discussion or fired or just thought to be unknowledgeable when, you know, we've been studying this our whole lives," Wall said.

 

[Inthedetails]

Who do you trust when it comes to vaccines and health standards? Hear what fellow Hoosiers think

The Indiana Public Health Association calls the leadership changes and vaccine policy changes at the CDC a crisis.

www.wthr.com

WTHR asked some Indiana residents their opinions about vaccines.

Darren Daugherty said you can't trust everything on the internet and that he prefers home remedies over vaccines.

"I just look up a lot of like home remedies for ways to get rid of colds and all that," Daugherty said

Another added, "I really don't think vaccines really do anything."

One of the people 13News asked happens to work as an emergency medical physician for more than 40 years. Gregory Wall said in all his years practicing medicine, he didn't expect to ever see people in charge of agencies disagree with the medical community.

"The medical community is marginalized in this discussion or fired or just thought to be unknowledgeable when, you know, we've been studying this our whole lives," Wall said.

If we're getting medical advice from the "man on the street," I'm listening to the guy who has been a physician for over 40 years.

jmopinion

 

[Inthedetails]

Meanwhile in New Jersey:

Anybody who wants a COVID-19 vaccine booster shot, regardless of their age, won’t need a prescription to get one from their local pharmacy, the state Health Department announced Tuesday night.

N.J. just made it easier to get a COVID vaccine than most states, going against new federal rules

The state Health Department granted pharmacists the authority to adminster the vaccines without a prescription.

www.nj.com

While I commend states taking the initiative to make sure people have access to vaccines, this state-by-state piecemeal approach is absurd and wastes time and energy. It shouldn't be chaos to make proven vaccines available. imo

jmo

 

[Teche]

what is the name of the newest Covid vaccine?

 

[charminglane]

what is the name of the newest Covid vaccine?

Protect yourself from COVID-19 and flu this fall and winter. Everything you need to know about new flu shots and the updated 2025-26 COVID-19 vaccine.

The 2025-2026 COVID-19 vaccines will fight the newest COVID-19 variants. And flu shots also keep you healthy. Who should get them and when?

www.uchealth.org

 

[Betty P]

Who do you trust when it comes to vaccines and health standards? Hear what fellow Hoosiers think

The Indiana Public Health Association calls the leadership changes and vaccine policy changes at the CDC a crisis.

www.wthr.com

WTHR asked some Indiana residents their opinions about vaccines.

Darren Daugherty said you can't trust everything on the internet and that he prefers home remedies over vaccines.

"I just look up a lot of like home remedies for ways to get rid of colds and all that," Daugherty said

Another added, "I really don't think vaccines really do anything."

One of the people 13News asked happens to work as an emergency medical physician for more than 40 years. Gregory Wall said in all his years practicing medicine, he didn't expect to ever see people in charge of agencies disagree with the medical community.

"The medical community is marginalized in this discussion or fired or just thought to be unknowledgeable when, you know, we've been studying this our whole lives," Wall said.

Clinical practice guidelines based on multiple generations of high quality results of careful research are not relevant to the people now running the show.

 

[Gemmie]

what is the name of the newest Covid vaccine?

I'm not aware of a name other than the 2025-2026 Formula which is the most important thing IMO. There is a name for the new Moderna vaccine for those over 65 or 12 years through 64 years of age at high risk for severe COVID-19. It's called mNEXSPIKE and a lower dose and more targeted vaccine. They call their regular vaccine Spikevax.

From Moderna's CEO:

With the benefit of years of real-world data and a deeper understanding of the virus, we explored if alternative vaccine design strategies could be more effective. mNEXSPIKE was born from this continued push for excellence. Its streamlined vaccine design aims to target key parts of the spike protein rather than the entire spike protein, and at a lower dose.

Introducing mNEXSPIKE: Moderna’s New COVID-19 Vaccine

Introducing mNEXSPIKE: Moderna’s New COVID-19 Vaccine

www.modernatx.com

 

[Stunned]

My Dr. called today about the prescription that my pharmacy requested for my COVID vaccination, she suggested I wait 10 days until the new one is approved and delivered to the pharmacies. She told me the COVID shots being distributed now are last years and I might not need a prescription in 10 days for the new one. It's scary, but I guess I'll wait.

 

[sds71]

An over-the-counter nasal spray which has been used for years as a safe and effective treatment for seasonal allergies could potentially prevent Covid infections, according to clinical trial results released Tuesday.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2838335

The antihistamine azelastine works as an antiviral against a range of respiratory infections, including influenza, RSV and the virus that causes Covid, a growing number of studies have shown.

German scientists at Saarland University Hospital recruited 450 adults, mostly in their early 30s. The first group of 227 participants tested a puff of the nasal spray in each nostril, three times a day. The other 223 were instructed to do the same, but with a placebo spray.

All participants were given Covid rapid tests twice a week over the course of nearly two months. By the end, the incidence of Covid infections in the azelastine group was 2.2%, significantly lower than the 6.7% infection rate in the placebo group.

Azelastine also appeared to reduce rates of other symptomatic respiratory infections, in general.

The researchers said they were not entirely sure why azelastine appears to be effective at limiting Covid infections, but they suggested that it might bind to the virus in the nasal mucosa, the moist membrane lining the nose which pathogens must navigate to enter the body, and inhibits a key enzyme that it uses to replicate.

Another possibility is that azelastine interacts with the ACE2 receptor, the preferred entry point which the Covid virus uses to access human cells, and prevents it from latching on.

A common nasal spray may block Covid infection, trial results indicate

The over-the-counter antihistamine azelastine works against a range of respiratory infections, including the flu and RSV, according to German researchers.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Gemmie]

My Dr. called today about the prescription that my pharmacy requested for my COVID vaccination, she suggested I wait 10 days until the new one is approved and delivered to the pharmacies. She told me the COVID shots being distributed now are last years and I might not need a prescription in 10 days for the new one. It's scary, but I guess I'll wait.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking (and been saying). That it's too early. However, a few posters here say they checked and got the 2025/2026 formula so I don't know what to think. Maybe your doctor is talking specifically about the state you live in? Dunno.

I called a local small, not national, pharmacy. They said they have it but it requires a prescription. However, they aren't carrying, and won't carry, mNEXSPIKE which is new from Moderna (Posted about above) and supposed to be better for 65+ and those at high risk, even though it's a lower dose. It targets certain parts of the spike protein.

That's the one I want and not sure I'll be able to get it.

 

[Gemmie]

An over-the-counter nasal spray which has been used for years as a safe and effective treatment for seasonal allergies could potentially prevent Covid infections, according to clinical trial results released Tuesday.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2838335

The antihistamine azelastine works as an antiviral against a range of respiratory infections, including influenza, RSV and the virus that causes Covid, a growing number of studies have shown.

German scientists at Saarland University Hospital recruited 450 adults, mostly in their early 30s. The first group of 227 participants tested a puff of the nasal spray in each nostril, three times a day. The other 223 were instructed to do the same, but with a placebo spray.

All participants were given Covid rapid tests twice a week over the course of nearly two months. By the end, the incidence of Covid infections in the azelastine group was 2.2%, significantly lower than the 6.7% infection rate in the placebo group.

Azelastine also appeared to reduce rates of other symptomatic respiratory infections, in general.

The researchers said they were not entirely sure why azelastine appears to be effective at limiting Covid infections, but they suggested that it might bind to the virus in the nasal mucosa, the moist membrane lining the nose which pathogens must navigate to enter the body, and inhibits a key enzyme that it uses to replicate.

Another possibility is that azelastine interacts with the ACE2 receptor, the preferred entry point which the Covid virus uses to access human cells, and prevents it from latching on.

A common nasal spray may block Covid infection, trial results indicate

The over-the-counter antihistamine azelastine works against a range of respiratory infections, including the flu and RSV, according to German researchers.

www.nbcnews.com

LOL @ me re:

You know how sometimes you're reading and you read ahead, and the sentence you've read isn't how it was written? Well, I read that as "Saarland University Hospital recruited 450 nostrils".

I was like.. That's sure an odd way of them stating how many people (nostrils) they recruited. lol Had to reread it!

 

[Inthedetails]

LOL @ me re:

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You know how sometimes you're reading and you read ahead, and the sentence you've read isn't how it was written? Well, I read that as "Saarland University Hospital recruited 450 nostrils".

I was like.. That's sure an odd way of them stating how many people (nostrils) they recruited. lol Had to reread it!

Oh man, I needed a laugh. Thank you.

And thanks to the nostrils who volunteered for the study about covid spray.

jmo