Coronavirus COVID-19 *Global Health Pandemic* #21

[Happygolucky123]

Starting Monday- All Michigan schools are closed until 4/6.

 

[155etta]

I wonder if people will be purchasing bidets after this all settles.
ETA-Europeans have that down lol

I have one and bought a second on Amazon.

 

[SAMS]

MSNBC on Twitter

We have some of the best researchers in America,” Seattle Mayor Durkan says. “They estimate that today we have over 1,100 cases and that if we don’t do measures like we’re taking now … by April 7th, we’ll have 25,000 cases and 400 deaths.”

 

[Tbone144]

it's funny how one day can change so much
today my FB feed is filled with people worried about the virus and complaining that their grocery store has empty shelves
I just wanna tell them 'I told you people to stock up weeks ago!'

Yep, people bragging about getting the last of the paper napkins to use as toilet paper. “If all y’all would have listened to me weeks ago when I told you where you could still buy masks maybe you wouldn’t have to wipe your butt with a paper towel.”

 

[MsMarple]

A little insight into how individuals are being assessed and dealt with.

My daughter currently lives in Osaka Japan. She owns a small IT business and directed all employees to work from home for the time being. She also goes to a small music school for string lessons.

About a week ago a student at the music school got sick with the virus. They contacted the school which closed immediately and contacted the health department. My daughter's teacher tested positive so the health department told my daughter she must submit a daily “health report” for 14 days after the last contact with the teacher. It's been about 7 days and so far and she's not showing symptoms.

Interestingly, she was not directed to self-quarantine although she chose to, apart from a quick store run for food (it's at the bottom of her building) while wearing a mask which is common in Japan.

Unless she shows symptoms she will not be tested. She has Hashimoto's Disease which is an autoimmune disease of her thyroid but apparently it's not considered a risk factor.

And yeah, my inner voice of reason is fighting with my mom freak out mode but all I can do is trust the system and hope she makes it through without getting sick.

 

[beatrixpotter]

it's really awesome that our technology has advanced to the point that many can work from home, and that many children can continue their studies on line.
smart people all over the world are working on how to make this easier for all of us.
I see technology growing even more rapidly due to this virus.
It may well help to save many lives.
Next we immediately need a cooking show, showing us fantastic recipes you can make with Beans and Rice. ;-)

Great Depression cooking with Clara on youtube.

 

[Trudie]

On day 1 of the illness, 80 percent of oral swabs were SARS-CoV-2-positive, but by day 5, 75 percent of anal swabs were positive, while only half of the oral swabs showed infection, according to the study.

“These results confirm that COVID-19 patients have live virus in stool specimens, which is a new finding in the transmission routes of 2019-nCoV,” wrote authors of a study, published by the CCDC publication CCDC Weekly.

This means that sneezing isn’t the only way for transmission. Blood and fecal matter can carry the virus, even when conventional testing comes back negative.

“The virus can also be transmitted through the potential fecal-oral route. This means that stool samples may contaminate hands, food, water, etc., and may cause infection by invading the oral cavity, respiratory mucosa, conjunctiva, etc,” study authors concluded. What to Know About the Mysterious Coronavirus Detected in China
Sounds like hepatitis!

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

Johns Hopkins taking a more serious view (CNBC YouTube channel):

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wow. This is a must watch.

 

[Lilibet]

I need to go back and read, but thought I would ask since I’m pacing the hallway....
in the US, how did the first reported cases come in? Was it people in the US that had not been out of the country? Or was it brought in from travelers and could be traced back?
I hope my question make sense.

The first cases were travelers from China.

 

[Tillicum]

It’s good to have some on hand for folks to buy free-range eggs and such from a neighbor during times like these. I always have a bit stashed in the winter to pay random people for plowing snow. It might be we need to depend on certain cash services (little guy mechanics, for instance) if businesses close down.

Also good to have in case our kids get in a pinch. I'd rather hand over some cash than write a check and hope a bank is open when they need it. I think a lot of places will be reducing their hours and try to run on a skeleton crew before this is over.

 

[Woodland]

Also the WHO offered the US 60,000 tests last month and the US rejected the offer saying we wanted to make the tests ourselves. At a PC this week both the head of the CDC and Pence “didn’t know” who decided to reject the tests the rest of the world is using.

Quoting post #469 from page 24 - it has an embedded post that reads - the pandemic response team was 'gutted in 2016'.

Just want to correct that to - gutted in 2018.

 

[Drc40]

How testing failures allowed coronavirus to sweep the U.S.

“But neither the CDC nor the coronavirus task force chaired by Vice President Mike Pence would say who made the decision to forgo the WHO test and instead begin a protracted process of producing an American test, one that got delayed by manufacturing problems, possible lab contamination and logistical delays.”

Well, one question. Who at the WHO is saying this? There are no sources attributed to this claim. I’m dumbfounded such an offer would be rejected but dubious of this claim with zero sources.

 

[gregjrichards]

South Korea reported more recoveries from the coronavirus than new infections on Friday for the first time since the country’s first patient was confirmed on 20 January, raising hopes that Asia’s biggest epidemic outside China may be slowing.

The Korea Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC) said 110 new cases had been confirmed on Thursday - compared to 114 a day earlier - taking the total to 7,979. But 177 fully recovered patients were released the same day, it added.

Officials said the number of new infections in Daegu, the southern city at the centre of the outbreak, and the neighbouring province of North Gyeongsang had declined “dramatically”, but there were concerns over a spike in cases at a call centre in Seoul, where 102 people have tested positive, and a government office in the administrative capital Sejong.

Daegu and North Gyeongsang account for about 90% of cases in South Korea, with 60% of infections linked to the Daegu branch of the Shincheonji Church of Jesus, a secretive religious sect with 210,000 followers.

Despite the encouraging news, the country’s prime minister, Chung-Sye-kyun, who is leading efforts to contain the outbreak in Daegu, warned against complacency.

“The battle against the coronavirus has now become a global fight going far beyond Daegu,” he said.

The 110 cases detected Thursday, and reported by the KCDC on Friday, was the lowest number of daily infections in more than two weeks, and well below the 500-600 daily increases reported early this month. One death was confirmed on Thursday, bringing the country’s total to 67.

Sixty-one of the latest cases were from Daegu, while 17 and 13 were in Sejong and Seoul, respectively.

Coronavirus live updates: Justin Trudeau's wife tests positive, Europe shuts schools, sporting world in crisis

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Oh how I dislike it when people jump on threads and ask questions like I’m about to do without reading. But here goes.

Do we have a thread for JUST the medical info on covid19? I’m specifically interested in what actually the physical damage, if any, is to those that recover/survive supposed mild cases as I imagine severe cases may have lung damage.

I’ve read likely misinformation on lung damage early on and I’m wondering if anyone has uncovered data on that. Also saw something about men’s fertility?

 

[MJPeony]

I understand exactly what you're saying.
I just saw my doctor and he sure had a different attitude, I was surprised.
First, he said I could go off my blood thinner. The cause of my clots was isolated bad travel events, no underlying condition. He said after 6 mos. of blood thiner clots are absorbed. He doesn't consider that a risk, and doesn't consider our high BP a risk.
The only thing he was a bit concerned about was DH's asthma. But he said as long as he takes his inhalers along, ok. He also doesn't consider us elderly, to him elderly is over 70. He does not consider me to be an unhealthy risk.
He said the virus is coming, lots of people are going to get it. We're going to get it in our state (even though he said it's extremely difficult to get tested for it here.) He seems to be in the "like getting the cold or the flu" school. He said if we want to go see our grandbaby, go; just don't go out and about much while we're there.
To be clear, that's what he said, not what I'm saying. Not saying I agree.

My mother is elderly, and she told me today that her doctor said it’s fine to fly across the country to visit her friend. As long as she washed her hands.

And yet another reminder that not all doctors are created equal.....

 

[Alethea]

Well, one question. Who at the WHO is saying this? There are no sources attributed to this claim. I’m dumbfounded such an offer would be rejected but dubious of this claim with zero sources.

Did you read the article? Or watch the video? The administration admitted this happened but won’t name who, specifically, in the US administration made the decision. No one is disputing that it happened. The WHO physically sent these tests to 60 countries who have been using them for months so that fact isn’t in dispute either.

 

[book-thinker]

Sno-Isle libraries are closing to the public. Including my beloved local library. I'm heartbroken because of my love of books. Also all community centers and park programs are closing their doors. I have a membership to the YMCA and I believe they are next to close. For some reason closing of the libraries was too much to hear.
Sorry I'm babbling on again. I just received the email from Sno-Isle libraries of their difficult decision to close.

 

[MimosaMornings]

My mother is elderly, and she told me today that her doctor said it’s fine to fly across the country to visit her friend. As long as she washed her hands.

And yet another reminder that not all doctors are created equal.....

Holy cow. That’s mind boggling.

 

[margarita25]

Now I am starting to question all of the severely sick people from "vaping".
It's a stretch, but could that have been the start of coronavirus?
I'm sure the CDC has investigated it, so I'm gonna say no. Cant help but wonder. The symptoms were similar and those that died went fast.
When was that first reported?
MOO!!!!!!!

ETA: Answering myself
August 23, 2019
Pulmonary Disease Associated with E-cigarettes
And this:
Does vaping make you more susceptible to coronavirus?

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"A similar pattern is likely to emerge in response to the coronavirus, according to Bill de Blasio.

There was something interesting I noticed on the CDC’s website about a report on vaping and made a note in the early threads. It just happened to be released the same day as...anyway I made a note on the possible coincidence (or not)...it is back there in the abyss...

Ps: I vape hash oil so I’m sure that puts me in a higher risk factor.

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I’m reading as fast as I can, trying not to pass out...this is a hard read.

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Hugs to everyone

 

[MimosaMornings]

The Jazz’s Rudy Gobert touched every mic as a joke. Days later, he was diagnosed with coronavirus - The Boston Globe