Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #29

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Think of the risk in a convenient store if you go for a soda or coffee at the self serve area. Omg we know it is all but impossible to touch only one lid. No one washes their hands before getting a beverage, they pump (maybe dump), fill up a drink cup never ever washing hands. Door handles/knobs suddenly make me ill.

OMG, I used to get coffee almost everyday at the gas station - the best Hazelnut Coffee- no more now. The visual you gave me is so darn true. I never thought of it before - thanks Trudie you have opened my eyes.
 
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In case anyone was wondering, my DH's test results for Corona Virus are still not back. He called a number we were given, left a message and we didn't hear anything back. So we still don't know anything. We're still sleeping in separate bedrooms tonight but we briefly broke isolation from one another today. We ran into each other in the hallway and instead of turning and going back inside my room so he could pass without coming near me, I told him I don't care if he has Covora Virus or not I wanted a hug. I'm bound to get CoV if he has it anyway. So we held each other for a few moments and he kissed the top of my head. Then I went and poured hand sanitizer on my head where he kissed me and washed my hands really well, as if that will work. LOL. I've got to laugh or I'll cry at this point.

The good news is that we are both feeling better today. Today was our 3rd day taking anti-malarial meds. I'm not sure if those meds are helping our bodies fight or if maybe we don't have the Corona Virus at all. Tomorrow (Thursday) will be one week since my DH's first symptoms of coughing started. My coughing started the next day (Last Friday). DH had a low-grade fever Sat, Sun, Mon and Tues, but no fever today. If this is some other bug that he wasn't tested for, he might be over it already. I've read the Corona Virus lasts for about 2 weeks. Therefore, I'm thinking either the meds and vitamins we are taking are helping OR we don't have Corona Virus yet. I'm leaning towards the idea that we probably don't have it.

Gardener, I wondered where you got the anti-malarial drugs and if they were Plaquenil which is prescription only??? How are you doing now? Keep us posted.

So do they have on plaquenil for COVID-19? What is the length of time you are supposed to take it?

Just a guess, but I imagine you'd have to keep taking it until this virus spread is over.

I've been on Plaquenil for years for RA, but it took awhile to build up in my system to ease the RA symptoms. I used to take 400 mg but now take only 200 mg.

This article talks about Plaquenil and "remdesivir" combo maybe helping with Covid-19.
Coronavirus: There is still a glimpse of hope
 
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Gardener, I wondered where you got the anti-malarial drugs and if they were Plaquenil which is prescription only??? How are you doing now? Keep us posted.



Just a guess, but I imagine you'd have to keep taking it until this virus spread is over.

I've been on Plaquenil for years for RA, but it took awhile to build up in my system to ease the RA symptoms. I used to take 400 mg but now take only 200 mg.

This article talks about Plaquenil and "remdesivir" combo maybe helping with Covid-19.
Coronavirus: There is still a glimpse of hope
I used to take it, too, for an autoimmune disease, and I still have some on hand. That’s why I was curious.
 
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Actually, I am doing the same thing for both me and my husband! I bought a digital thermometer and every night, we check it, and write it down.
As of today every business in Ohio has to check temps of every employee when they come in the door. I have no idea where they'll find the thermometers.
 
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Imagine that you haven't seen your own child in a long time, your child is able to return home via government subsidized planes, and you can't be near your own child for maybe another 18 months.

I hope that I can meet my child for a walk along the river, 6 feet apart, late at night when no one else is there in the next few months.
 
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Updating on the goings on in NYC right now (if you're interested):

I live down in the East Village/Lower East Side and it's *silent* out. It's been warm enough to sleep with my windows open and thanks to my insomnia, I can actually hear all of the birds singing as the sun rises. Day and night theres usually a cacophony of cab horns, sirens and people. Nothing. I went up on my roof earlier and watched all my neighbors in buildings up and down the block out on their roofs too. Some stretching, some with laptops, some exercising... one dancing. All looking like they (we) are going stir-crazy. I had to run out today and everyone else I saw was, for the most part, following the social distancing rules. There is a dog run in the park near me. Instead of the dog parents gathering on the benches they were all dotted around the run talking at a distance. I'm quite impressed - in a place where it is sometimes hard to find an inch of personal space and bumping and brushing up to strangers is normal, we are making do.
Thank you for painting such a lovely picture.
 
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Ok, some happy news! We got approved to be a foster dog parent with the county humane society. I passed my phone interview with flying colors. I get to go see the dogs on Friday morning. The shelter lady said "You can have your pick of whatever dog you'd like. We just want to get them out of here." I asked what their protocols were as far as being busy because I am of course, a cancer patient and high risk. She stated they implemented a policy of only 5 people in the facility at a time. If more than 5 arrive, they have to wait outside, not inside. I can wear my mask and gloves too.

I can't go help anyone else. Everyone else is helping me to stay isolated. So this is the only way I can help. I am happy to feel needed to be honest and it will help me stay active - playing fetch, wandering around my back yard, making sure my little charge has fun. Stay tuned!!
This is fantastic news and a great idea!

I am going to strongly suggest this to my hubby. We would be great candidates.

We had to release our ol boy to doggie heaven last summer....:(...

This is the first time in my long life that we have not had a doggie in our home. We usually had at least 2!

This would be an ideal situation for us. We have a great big yard that needs a doggie running around in it.
 
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Tomorrow I am definitely heading to Publix, I have to have coffee creamer and snacks.
I cannot handle black coffee - suffered through it today.

Someone posted today that going around 10:30 am was a good time so I am going to try to go at that time. I will sneak out from work (even though I am working from home) and go get the necessities - coffee creamer and snacks. Thank Goodness the store is 5 minutes away.
Switched to canned milk for coffee. Not bad at all
 
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Absolutely! Are we to the point we need to call 911 to report a serial cougher/sneezer?
Also, WMT is not disinfecting carts, not here, lol. I watched the cart dude push them straight from the lot to the store & position them for the next customer. They care about their bottom line, imo. Again, they concealed the fact the first KY positive worked in Cynthiana WMT. That info needed to be public immediately, imo. ETA: how on earth would they even have time to “sanitize” carts?
It's also selfish. You can't stop a baby from sneezing or coughing on a cashier.
 
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As of today every business in Ohio has to check temps of every employee when they come in the door. I have no idea where they'll find the thermometers.

They probably have some thermometers in the Strategic Stock Pile - going back to look for detailed post on that. Sure google will get ya there more quickly.

On a similar subject, there was discussion today re: numbers of ventilators with VP Pence today. Some of that may be upstream, still catching up, but wanting to note. Iirc he said a number but I’m not going to say it without a link and double checking that moo.

Yeah we’re going Wuhan. Temperature checks.

ETA:
Guys I can’t emphasize the importance of googling Wuhan videos if you’re wanting to get an idea of what some things might look like. Yes it’s a totally different country and government and they were the first, many variables of course etc etc etc BUT remember, the disease is the same. (Omg I sound like Doc T)

Everything is moo.

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ETA2 / my earlier post
source: Coronavirus COVID-19 *Global Health Emergency* #13

Bringing forward:

“BBM:

“But the questions of our — the U.S. supply of PPE, those questions really need to go to the ASPR they have responsibility for the Strategic National Stockpile in the United States.

- Dr. Nancy / CDC telebriefing Tuesday, March 3 / source



Here are a few very quick links for notes/reference:

https://www.phe.gov/about/sns/Pages/default.aspx

Strategic National Stockpile

“Strategic National Stockpile is the nation’s largest supply of potentially life-saving pharmaceuticals and medical supplies for use in a public health emergency severe enough to cause local supplies to run out.

When state, local, tribal, and territorial responders request federal assistance to support their response efforts, the stockpile ensures that the right medicines and supplies get to those who need them most during an emergency. Organized for scalable response to a variety of public health threats, this repository contains enough supplies to respond to multiple large-scale emergencies simultaneously.”

*Much more at link

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ASPR (@PHEgov) on Twitter


https://www.phe.gov/about/aspr/Pages/default.aspx


ASPR Organization Chart


Office of the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response - Wikipedia


ASPR TRACIE | Healthcare Emergency Preparedness Information Gateway

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https://www.orau.gov/sns/v11/ReceivingDistributingDispensingSNSAssets_V11.pdf


Strategic National Stockpile - Wikipedia


Strategic National Stockpile - CHEMM


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...e-meant-to-save-us-all-in-a-bioterror-attack/


Strategic National Stockpile Fact Sheet | State Public Health | ASTHO


Strategic National Stockpile (SNS) - Radiation Emergency Medical Management


20 Years of the Strategic National Stockpile: Response History Timeline | Global Biodefense


MedicalCountermeasures.gov


Looking Ahead – Future of the Strategic National Stockpile


Lawmakers express lingering questions over strategic national stockpile transfer from CDC


Global & Disaster Medicine » Strategic National Stockpile


Strategic National Stockpile (SNS)


http://www.kdheks.gov/cphp/download/Intro_SNS.pdf


https://www.nap.edu/read/23532/chapter/3


*The above is not an exhaustive list of links by any means, just making a few quick notes for future rabbit hole purposes, sounds very interesting, jmo.

*I think I may also recall reference in one of the WHO Pressers to an International Stockpile, as related to PPE, moo, making note.

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So do they have on plaquenil for COVID-19? What is the length of time you are supposed to take it?

No. Let me clarify. We happened to have 2 prescription bottles of it at home already. We frequently travel to a few countries that have malaria (for work) and our doctor prescribes it for us before a trip. DH was supposed to travel out of the country this week but his trip was canceled. We are only taking it now because of some early studies showing it may have some benefits in fighting Corona Virus. Obviously, everyone should discuss with their dr before taking a prescription med meant for another condition. We've taken this medicine before and our dr said that it couldn't hurt us to take it now. By the time the world goes back to normal (if that ever happens) these meds will be expired anyway, and we'll need to get another prescription to travel again. As far as I know, they haven't had enough research to determine how much it helps those with CoV19. But here are some links on use of Anti-malarial meds to treat CoV19:

New insights on the antiviral effects of chloroquine against coronavirus: what to expect for COVID-19? - PubMed - NCBI

Breakthrough: Chloroquine phosphate has shown apparent efficacy in treatment of COVID-19 associated pneumonia in clinical studies. - PubMed - NCBI

Could an old malaria drug help fight the new coronavirus?

A malaria pill from the 1940s has caught the eyes of doctors, analysts, and even Elon Musk as a potential coronavirus treatment
 
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Live updates: Coronavirus cases top 215,000 globally - CNN
Nearly 10 million California residents are under "shelter in place" orders

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A man wears gloves and a bandanna across his face while riding a scooter past a shuttered movie theater, with the message "Take Care of Each Other" displayed on the marquee, on March 18, in Beverly Hills, California. Mario Tama/Getty Images
''Nearly 10 million California residents are under a mandatory "shelter in place" order to prevent the spread of the coronavirus.

Shelter in place means residents are required to remain at home except for essential needs like picking up groceries, medication, or caring for someone in another household. The orders are being enforced by law enforcement.''

''The pandemic began in China. Today, it reported no new local infections for the first time
From CNN's Shanshan Wang in Beijing

Mainland China on Thursday reported no new locally transmitted coronavirus cases for the first time since the the pandemic began late last year, marking a major turning point in the global battle to contain Covid-19.

The country reported 34 new cases of coronavirus yesterday -- all imported from overseas.

The milestone represents a turnaround for the Chinese government. Just last month, mainland China was reporting thousands of cases per day, and was considered the most high-risk infection area in the world.

Now, after months of lockdowns and travel restrictions affecting hundreds of millions of citizens, strict home quarantines, and an unprecedented nationwide effort, the country is down to zero reported new locally transmitted cases.

Instead, the threat is now coming from overseas.''
 
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Yes, areas are restricting visitors. The is not a time to vacation or head to a motel. Some areas only have a small, local owned grocery store. Are they to drive an hour or more because folks wanna vacation during a State of Emergency?

This does sound cold hardened but we have very good reasons....

Dare County, NC is the Outer Banks, most protected treasure of NC, is closed. They are not equipment to handle an increase of visitors. The towns are super small, like 150 people, small, the wild horse are on the banks, one main bridge entrance. Not a place to be trapped.

I hear they may close the Appalachian Trail. We just can't spend resources looking for lost folks, rescuing this who fall off the mountain, etc.

Most rural areas do NOT have paid EMT. All EMT is volunteer, they raise their own money, provide their own training, build their own buildings and buy all equipment, supplies, and emergency vehicles. They are not paid for volunteering, no paid meals, or gas. Its neighbors helping neighbor's.

MOO....
I totally understand why they would want to restrict grocery shopping to the locals. If there are only 150 in the town, that market doesn't carry vast supplies on hand. What are the locals to do if tourists buy up all of the food and basic supplies?

I would sell them a very small amount of food for the day, and advise them to begin their trip home.
 
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As of today every business in Ohio has to check temps of every employee when they come in the door. I have no idea where they'll find the thermometers.
I have one of those "guns" that you point around the inside corners of your house to see where the insulation leaks are. I wonder if it's precise enough to read a human temperature? I meant to try it while looking in the mirror (how else to know if I aimed at my forehead properly.) and see what it says...
 
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Gardener, I wondered where you got the anti-malarial drugs and if they were Plaquenil which is prescription only??? How are you doing now? Keep us posted.



Just a guess, but I imagine you'd have to keep taking it until this virus spread is over.

I've been on Plaquenil for years for RA, but it took awhile to build up in my system to ease the RA symptoms. I used to take 400 mg but now take only 200 mg.

This article talks about Plaquenil and "remdesivir" combo maybe helping with Covid-19.
Coronavirus: There is still a glimpse of hope

I answered here: Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #29
 
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Are any of you finding it difficult to not hurt someone if you are discussing the virus and others laugh it off? I get very pissed.
Some of the things people come up with.....
Like the mom that fled Hong Kong with her children, flying into Cinci’, driving to Cynthiana, KY, to stay with her mom. They traveled just before quarantine was enacted.
She was interviewed by the small town paper & stated “it was impossible to buy toilet paper...”, creating the great TP rush here. Then the WMT deli employee nearly dies, at 27yo. Finally the small town hospital life flights her to univ of KY, where she could get adequate medical care. She was not tested for Covid 19 because she had not left Cynthiana.
Little did she know she had contact with the American Hong Kong family of four. After all comes to light the Hong Kong woman said “I didn’t bring it, I’m smart.” Well yes, yes she’s smart and has a hell of an education, but really.....? How suspicious 5 days after she arrives a town of appx 6k has the virus. Jmo
 
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Live updates: Coronavirus cases top 215,000 globally - CNN
Nearly 10 million California residents are under "shelter in place" orders

f8185b2b-a94f-4476-9692-4a8decbc7d16.jpg

A man wears gloves and a bandanna across his face while riding a scooter past a shuttered movie theater, with the message "Take Care of Each Other" displayed on the marquee, on March 18, in Beverly Hills, California. Mario Tama/Getty Images
''Nearly 10 million California residents are under a mandatory "shelter in place" order to prevent the spread of the coronavirus.

Shelter in place means residents are required to remain at home except for essential needs like picking up groceries, medication, or caring for someone in another household. The orders are being enforced by law enforcement.''

''The pandemic began in China. Today, it reported no new local infections for the first time
From CNN's Shanshan Wang in Beijing

Mainland China on Thursday reported no new locally transmitted coronavirus cases for the first time since the the pandemic began late last year, marking a major turning point in the global battle to contain Covid-19.

The country reported 34 new cases of coronavirus yesterday -- all imported from overseas.

The milestone represents a turnaround for the Chinese government. Just last month, mainland China was reporting thousands of cases per day, and was considered the most high-risk infection area in the world.

Now, after months of lockdowns and travel restrictions affecting hundreds of millions of citizens, strict home quarantines, and an unprecedented nationwide effort, the country is down to zero reported new locally transmitted cases.

Instead, the threat is now coming from overseas.''

Thank you @dotr as always for the great posts :waves:
 
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I have one of those "guns" that you point around the inside corners of your house to see where the insulation leaks are. I wonder if it's precise enough to read a human temperature? I meant to try it while looking in the mirror (how else to know if I aimed at my forehead properly.) and see what it says...
The laser? If so don’t get it near your eyes or your pets eyes. Moo
 
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