Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #31

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  • #841
SOUTH CAROLINA

On Friday afternoon, it was announced that a service member stationed at Marine Corps Air Station tested positive for COVID-19. On Wednesday, the Charleston Air Force Base confirmed an airman had contracted the virus.

As of Thursday night, 15 tests have been administered at Joint Base Charleston, and half of them came back negative. The other half are still awaiting results. Most bases throughout the state have been reduced to essential personnel and operations only as a precaution.
Family and friends are worried about SC military members' health amid coronavirus
 
  • #842
Yeah I’m somewhat surprised how quickly the PPE issues are occurring. We knew there was a huge concern about this very early on via WHO conferences, etc., but honestly this seems to be happening more quickly than I expected, considering our window of time, Strategic Reserve, increased production....

WTH we are only just getting started.

Many products, including medical supplies, are outsource to countries with cheaper labor cost and no benefits.

Years ago, Honduras was hit by a natural disaster. 95% of tracheal suction and urinary catheters were made in Honduras. We had no choice hospitals were the priority and homecare patients had to sterilizing, by boiling and reuse.

I've experienced shortages with catheters, trach tubes, latex gloves [during the HIV scare], various drugs, hospital beds made in China[shipped without all the parts], home ventilators [during recalls], just to name a few.

Being out of critical medical products is not a new problem.

Hoping some manufacturing plants will be able to make masks and ventilators. Quickly!!!

If the FDA can fast track testing kits, it can certainly fast track masks and ventilators. The problem will be trademark infringement.

Medical manufacturers are forever suing each other for trademark violations. Don't know if the FDA and the Defense Act can resolve the trademark problems.

Hoping for the best, preparing for the worse.....
 
  • #843
I've been on the fence with my feeling about a national lockdown. We need it, should do it, but.....should we not let folks in areas with no active cases continue to work. We need production to continue for food and meat processing plants, factories making medical supplies, etc. Yes, restaurants and bars, social gatherings are a must, closing schools, nationwide, but each local community and state need to make those decisions.

Yes, coming from the one who has a Governor who does NOTHING. The only way Virginia will close is if tbe President or Amazon does it. Amazon owns Northam.

Moo

I'm on the fence, too. We need things moving where they can. We have a huge country. How are you going to monitor that? Our economy needs whatever helpit can get.

I'm in support of clusters being completely shut off.

Jmo
 
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  • #845
This is kind of dumb, but I keep thinking I'd rather go ahead and get it now instead of later.
 
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Yesssss!!! We just got her at 1:30 today! This is Athena. She is 5 years old. She had an unexpected surgery this morning to be spayed because another appointment was cancelled. So she is on the struggle bus for sure. Walks like she’s drunk. Pain meds and antibiotics for a bit.

Quiet, shy, housebroken and looked terribly guilty for throwing up on the rug. I told her it was ok. She loves the backyard and watches the planes go overhead. The squirrels are sitting in the oak tree squawking like crazy. She keeps looking up at them.

She appears to have been neglected and may have had puppies in the last year. Her skin is in rough shape. She came from a couple counties away. I suspect she’s had a rough time of it recently. She will blossom here I’m sure.
My goodness. She looks like a sweetheart. Bless you for letting this baby have a home.
 
  • #849
I'm on the fence, too. We need things moving where they can. We have a huge country. How are you going to monitor that? Jmo

It's a short time between the first case, the 8th case and community transmission. Assume there is community transmission before there is an announcement. Every community will have many cases of the virus because no community, except some in China, have successfully contained the virus.
 
  • #850
This is kind of dumb, but I keep thinking I'd rather go ahead and get it now instead of later.

The virus? Many people suffer permanent damage to their lungs.
 
  • #851
So my hospital goes to a “no visitor policy” as of 8 PM tonight. Security will be stationed at all entrances to enforce this. Until today, 1 visitor per 24 hours was allowed for every patient. There are some exceptions to this rule for end of life patients, patients on the maternity unit etc. But, wow, this is a big step, but a needed step...
 
  • #852
So during WW2 most essentials were rationed off so that no one could hoard, especially the toilet paper.

I am starting to think we need the same system during a pandemic.
 
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Interesting that that piece (now under editorial review) was published on the Opinions page. If anyone can find the text of the article (written by two opinion writers) please post - whatever the Globe was advocating does not still seem to be in print.

The key word in the headline is "successful." Do people not realize that even R-95 wearing medical personnel (including one whose main contact with the virus was in a lab) have died despite mask use?

The average person is not going to follow the protocols that medical personnel use, IMO. Be sure to use scrub type washing of hands before putting it on.

It's no big deal if everyone wants to shield face and eyes when they go out, but I would not rely on that method as a primary way of staying safe in social spaces. I will continue to assume that if you wear a mask, you are signaling that you've been exposed or are medically compromised and I expect to keep a 12 foot social distance in that case.

Please please throw away masks immediately after one use or launder.
 
  • #855
The virus? Many people suffer permanent damage to their lungs.

Yes, but I think there is a better chance to live it I get it now rather than when the hospitals are treating people in hallways.
 
  • #856
I get it, and feel the same from time to time, @Gardenista. It's highly infectious, but not inevitable if we do our part to take care of ourselves.

I have to say, I do feel confused watching briefings. We know the president was exposed, and the entire crew are all crowded around each other every morning, looking healthy, too. Fauci put something in his mouth today, touched his face, and touched the mike (not Pompeo, lol). None of these folks are spring chickens, and at least some of them must have high bp. Who knows what daily treatments they are getting, but wow...makes me second-guess my own fears.
 
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I haven’t read any of these threads (or any WS thread) all week. Got laid off yesterday, which in a weird way was relieving to not have to live on pins and needles anymore. Sending love to my fellow NYers dealing with the massive shut downs. Be well.

sending virtual hugs to you
 
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Here is a communication from a Harvard professor of Physical Medicine (a specialist in various rehab therapies such as respiratory therapy). She says she bases this on all the information they are compiling at Harvard:

From Harvard Med School Professor Dr. Julie Silver —“As a physician at Harvard Medical School, I have amazing access to the best information and resources for #Covid19. I know people are getting a lot of information, and not all of it is accurate. Re the info below--note that "coronavirus" is used generically to mean the specific strain Covid 19. I will apologize in advance for not responding to comments as work is very hectic right now:
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> Dear Friends,
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> So much confusion, misinformation and denial is bouncing around on social media about the coronavirus that I thought I would try to explain, in plain language, why the experts see this as such an emergency.
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> You will see the claim online that this virus is a lot like the viruses that cause colds, and that if you get it, it will probably just seem like a bad cold and you are very unlikely to die. Depending on who you are, these statements are probably true. But they are incomplete, and the missing information is the key to understanding the problem.
>
> This is a coronavirus that is new to the human population, jumping into people late last year from some kind of animal, probably at a wildlife market in Wuhan, China. It is related to the viruses that cause colds, and acts a lot like them in many ways. It is very easy to transmit through the respiratory droplets that all of us give off. But nobody has ever been exposed to this before, which means nobody has any immunity to it.
>
> The virus is now moving explosively through the human population. While most people will recover, about 20 percent of the people who catch it will wind up with a serious disease. They will get pneumonia that causes shortness of breath, and they may need hospitalization.
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> Some of those people will get so sick that they cannot be saved and will die of the pneumonia. The overall death rate for people who develop symptoms seems to be 2 or 3 percent. Once we have enough testing to find out how many people caught the virus but did not develop symptoms, that might come down to about 1 percent, optimistically.
>
> This is a large number. It is at least 10 times higher than the mortality rate for the seasonal flu, for instance, which in some years kills 60,000 or 70,000 Americans. So just on that math, we could be looking at 600,000 or 700,000 dead in the United States. But it gets worse.
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> Older people with existing health problems are much more vulnerable, on average. The mortality rate of coronavirus among people over age 80 may be 15 or 20 percent. It appears to have 7 or 8 percent mortality for people aged 70 to 79. Here is the terrible part: If you are a healthy younger person, you can catch the virus and, without developing serious symptoms yourself, you can pass it along to older people. In other words, as the virus spreads, it is going to be very easy to go out and catch it, give it to your grandmother and kill her, even though you will not die yourself. You can catch it by touching a door knob or an elevator button.
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> Scientists measure the spread of an epidemic by a number called R0, or “R naught.” That number is calculated this way: for every person who develops the illness, how many other people do they give it to before they are cured (or dead) and no longer infectious? The R0 for coronavirus, in the absence of a control strategy, appears to be a number close to 3 – maybe a bit higher or lower, but in that ballpark. This is an extremely frightening number for such a deadly disease.
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> Suppose you catch the virus. You will give it to 3 other people, and they will each give it to three others, and so forth. Here is how the math works, where you, the “index case,” are the first line:
> 1
> 3
> 9
> 27
> 81
> 243
> 729
> 2,187
> 6,561
> 19,683
> 59,046
> 177,147
> 531,441
> 1,594,323
> 4,782,969
> 14,348,907
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> So, in just 15 steps of transmission, the virus has gone from just one index case to 14.3 million other people. Those 15 steps might take only a few weeks. The index person may be young and healthy, but many of those 14 million people will be old and sick, and they will likely die because they got a virus that started in one person's throat.
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> The United States is not at this point yet, with millions infected, as best we can tell. We don’t really know, because our government has failed us. We are many, many weeks behind other countries in rolling out widespread testing, so we don’t really have a clue how far the thing has spread. We do know that cases are starting to pop up all over the place, with many of the people having no known exposure to travelers from China, so that means this virus has escaped into our communities.
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> We do not have approved treatments, yet. We do not have a vaccine. The only tool we really have now is to try to slow down the chain of transmission.
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> This can be done. In other words, R0 is not fixed – it can be lowered by control measures. If we can get the number below 1, the epidemic will die out. This is the point of the quarantines and the contact-tracing that you are hearing so much about in the news. But the virus is exploding so fast that we will not have the labor available to trace contacts for much longer, so we have to shift strategies. This has already begun, but we are not doing it fast enough.
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> It is now likely that the majority of Americans will get this virus. But slowing it down is still crucial. Why? Because the healthcare system has limited resources. We only have about a million hospital beds in America. We have well under a million ventilators. If millions of Americans get sick enough to need treatment, we will have a calamity on our hands. What will happen is a form of battlefield triage, where the doctors focus on trying to treat the young and allow the older people to die.
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> This is not theoretical. It is already happening in Italy, where people over 65 are being left alone on hospital gurneys to suffocate to death from pneumonia. They basically drown in their own sputum. There is simply not enough medical capacity to take care of them. The United States appears to be about two weeks behind Italy on the epidemic growth curve.
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> What do we need to do now? We need to cancel all large gatherings – all of them. You have probably seen that the N.B.A. has postponed the rest of its season. Other sporting events, concerts, plays and everything else involving large audiences in a small space – all of it needs to be canceled. Even if these events take place, do not go to them. No lectures, no plays, no movies, no cruises – nothing.
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> Stay at home as much as possible.Stay out of restaurants. I would cancel any travel that is not absolutely essential. Work from home if you possibly can. You may have to go buy groceries and medicine, of course, but make the trips quick and purposeful. Wash your hands assiduously after you have been in public places, for a full 20 seconds, soaping up thoroughly and being sure to get between the fingers. Sunlight and alcohol will kill the virus.
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> And please stop passing around statements on social media claiming that the situation is not serious or is being exaggerated. This is a national crisis, and conveying misinformation to your friends and family may put their lives in danger”
>
> Sent from my iPhone
 
  • #860
This is kind of dumb, but I keep thinking I'd rather go ahead and get it now instead of later.
Now or not for a few months. For sure not in three weeks. Moo
 
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