Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #43

[Tony1902]

Looking at the state stats is horrifying. Louisiana is bad, but my son is in VA...lighting candles, saying rosary.

 

[10ofRods]

Just got back from Publix, and I feel like the meanest woman in town.

I was looking at mushrooms, and a women came up, six inches away, and asked if they were good for shishkabob. Said 'I don't know' and moved away. Seconds later she is right on top of me again. I moved away and said 'please stay further away from me'. She looked absolutely shocked and hurt. I think she left the store.

I don't know what else I could have done. She would have been in my personal space in ordinary times. The store has signage, people are wearing masks and gloves ~ does she live under a rock?

I'm done shopping for quite a while.

We live in a neighborhood where virtually no one takes the time to speak to anyone else. We know very few of our neighbors (and the ones we do know are NOT social distancing - they actually held a kid's birthday party two days ago - they are people who should definitely know better). So, we are getting back from our trip to the pharmacy/delivering food to our daughter, having successfully avoided close contact with anyone and a woman pulls over toward our driveway on her bike (she looked to be 70 years old, maybe less) and tries to start a conversation by saying something about our yard (seems like she thinks our butterfly garden is unkempt).

My husband stared her down and said, "We like it this way" and then turned his back on her while she sat their stationary on her bike, wanting convo. Never have seen her before. The look on her face was priceless. She's obviously riding around the hood trying to interact as much as she can. She has no clue who we are or whether we've kept quarantine. He stayed more than 6 feet away from her, but she had been continuing to roll her bike toward him (she's breathing harder than normal because of her exercise). Srsly, people don't understand social distancing or how annoying it is for those of us who are trying to stay inside our houses, who cross the street rather than come 6 feet away from some stranger, etc.

Meanwhile, our yard now has way more kinds of birds than ever before, we're seeing more bees and butterflies. I'm wondering if noise is part of the problem for some creatures, they are so much more sensitive to it than we are.

If only we had squirrels, our lives would be pretty complete right now. We're watching the bird/squirrel feeder at Cornell on a regular basis while having to stay home.

I can't go in a store where people might try to examine mushrooms over my shoulder, as I would not be able to be at all nice and would regret it later.

I wonder sometimes when I'm feeling my most pessimistic whether foot traffic on sidewalks allows the virus to linger for more than 5 minutes. Because there's way more foot traffic everywhere in our town than previously. Lots and lots of joggers/runners/bicyclists/skaters/walkers.

 

[MajorHoople]

When I linked this article from a local news station earlier I should have mentioned it's worth the time to watch the 4 minute video. The president of this company built his medical supply manufacturing business from the ground up and he understands the problems America faces in making our own supplies.

Deroyal dealing with ‘bittersweet boom in business,’ making masks and face shields

 

[CSIDreamer]

The 1,000-Bed Comfort Was Supposed to Aid New York. It Has 20 Patients. (NYT)

...
On Thursday, though, the huge white vessel, which officials had promised would bring succor to a city on the brink, sat mostly empty, infuriating executives at local hospitals. The ship’s 1,000 beds are largely unused, its 1,200-member crew mostly idle.

Only 20 patients had been transferred to the ship, officials said, even as New York hospitals struggled to find space for the thousands infected with the coronavirus. Another Navy hospital ship, the U.S.N.S. Mercy, docked in Los Angeles, has had a total of 15 patients, officials said.

“If I’m blunt about it, it’s a joke,” said Michael Dowling, the head of Northwell Health, New York’s largest hospital system. “Everyone can say, ‘Thank you for putting up these wonderful places and opening up these cavernous halls.’ But we’re in a crisis here, we’re in a battlefield.”
...​

Hospital ship USNS Comfort changes criteria for accepting NY patients

 

[Tony1902]

@Arkay...stay safe, sorry I can’t get to you to help. But I’ll send rose quartz light and prayers. Are you double washing? First wash gets rid of many, second gets all and use a nail brush or other brush.

 

[Trino]

Another Whiskey, Tango... moment... BEWARE PITTSBURGH

Pastor to hold BIG Easter event. Only two people died at Woodstock. Guess this guy wants a higher record.

"I’m gonna announce it. We’re gonna hold an outdoor Easter blowout service. Not online. A national gathering. You come from all over, like Woodstock. "

'Bunch Of Pansies': Pennsylvania Pastor Slams Coronavirus Precautions, Planning 'Woodstock'-Like Easter Gathering

 

[BHughes]

That's why I wasn't sure I was reading that right....I do think the numbers are higher than they are reporting like everywhere I guess when people start showing up at hospitals that they will test more

Yesterday
New York. 92,743 2468
NewJersey 25,590 537
California 11,126 244
Michigan 10,791 417
Louisiana 9,159 310
Florida 9,008 144

Today
New York 102,863. 2,935
New Jersey 29,895. 646
California. 11,317. 250
Michigan. 12, 744. 479
Louisiana. 10,297. 370
Florida. 9,585. 163

These are updated today and I am looking at California.... They are number three with highest cases but they had a smaller increase on cases and deaths in a day. Are they having trouble testing also?


My parish in Louisiana still has no positive cases.... But the mayor of the parish seat is wanting to sell popcorn on the sidewalk to help his business (he owns the theater in town). I cannot believe this. We are on stay at home orders and this leader of the parish wants people to go out and buy fresh popped popcorn?? No wonder people do not take this seriously!

 

[10ofRods]

That's a problem in itself though. Touching a mask with an infected hand infects the mask which you are then breathing through. No win situation really.

And this is why WHO said that we amateurs shouldn't wear them. I can understand it in nations where there's not enough SM or MSM to instruct people on how to wear them. It's actually much worse to get the virus on the mask and then breathe in and out, because the moisture in your breath makes the virus happy and it can multiply. So you're creating a viral load for yourself that just breathing ordinary air does not create. If you can change your mask every hour or so, that's one thing. Nurses were supposed to change each time each time they left a patient's room (that stopped near the beginning of this outbreak).

Gloves are important too (and help you remember not to touch your face).

Viral loading is super important in whether you get this disease and whether it overloads your immune system. That's why so many healthcare professionals are dying or very sick.

 

[CSIDreamer]

It's insane to me what some governments are declaring as essential. In NY the liquor stores are considered essential. I guess that's easy for me to say, since I don't drink. And, as all my family and friends point out to me every moment, I'm doing everything to avoid Coronavirus but am still smoking cigarettes, so it's hypocritical of me as well as cognitively dissonant.
But liquor stores? My governor is not saying that places that sell cigarettes must remain open for smokers. And liquor is worse, especially in these times, because while smoking certainly harms me, it does not impair my judgement or cause me to get into a car accident.
The last thing we need around here are people who are isolated, depressed and so on buying liquor and going on a joyride. I'm trying to get groceries online to avoid the supermarket. Surely people don't have to go and crowd into a store to get alcohol. Particularly when schools are closed, restaurants are closed, Broadway is closed, the movies are closed, travel is basically closed, playgrounds are closed, sports are shut down, and everything else that I'm forgetting is shut down. Why liquor? JMO.

Alcohol withdrawal can kill you. Jmo.

 

[BUF]

Another Whiskey, Tango... moment... BEWARE PITTSBURGH

Pastor to hold BIG Easter event. Only two people died at Woodstock. Guess this guy wants a higher record.

"I’m gonna announce it. We’re gonna hold an outdoor Easter blowout service. Not online. A national gathering. You come from all over, like Woodstock. "

'Bunch Of Pansies': Pennsylvania Pastor Slams Coronavirus Precautions, Planning 'Woodstock'-Like Easter Gathering

Idiot!!!

 

[MimosaMornings]

In California, my area, bank lobbies are now closed. Causing us problems. Trying to figure out some plan b, as I need a cashiers check. Sigh. Drive thru is open with long line of cars.

One of ours notified us that they will let you in if you set up an appointment.
Most tellers around here are behind bulletproof glass and you just slide it under the little opening.

 

[Boston Corbett]

Hospital ship USNS Comfort changes criteria for accepting NY patients

Navy has its hands full relieving officers of command.

 

[Tony1902]

@Trino: and here I was thinking the IJIT in Baton Rouge was the only one. What can you say: can’t fix ignorance. They should be arrested for domestic terrorism. Simple.

 

[Cryptic]

Canada and Germany purchased supplies. While they were in transit to their intended destinations, the US intercepted the orders and took the supplies. That is a problem.

Other posters here emphasized that the supplies were not intercepted by the US government. Rather, private brokers offered more money to the sellers. This led to the vendors to cancel sales to Germany and Canada and re-sell the supplies.

If the above is accurate, then the following is supported:
- Germans had no problem offering a price for the supplies in excess of what others could afford.
- They only got upset when they themselves were out bid.

 

[JerseyGirl]

The 1,000-Bed Comfort Was Supposed to Aid New York. It Has 20 Patients. (NYT)

...
On Thursday, though, the huge white vessel, which officials had promised would bring succor to a city on the brink, sat mostly empty, infuriating executives at local hospitals. The ship’s 1,000 beds are largely unused, its 1,200-member crew mostly idle.

Only 20 patients had been transferred to the ship, officials said, even as New York hospitals struggled to find space for the thousands infected with the coronavirus. Another Navy hospital ship, the U.S.N.S. Mercy, docked in Los Angeles, has had a total of 15 patients, officials said.

“If I’m blunt about it, it’s a joke,” said Michael Dowling, the head of Northwell Health, New York’s largest hospital system. “Everyone can say, ‘Thank you for putting up these wonderful places and opening up these cavernous halls.’ But we’re in a crisis here, we’re in a battlefield.”
...​

The ships in New York and California are not for coronavirus patients. Those states had to agree to that before the ships were refurbished and sent out, citing that it would be difficult and costly to disinfect the ships afterwards. The sailors on those ships have been under "self-quarantine" for a while and are coronavirus-free prior to deploying the ships.

 

[Herat]

The bank for our business, Wells Fargo closed their lobbies.

So, yes everyone has to sit in the long line at the drive-up to transact business, not just make deposits.

But then, they shortened the drive-up hours and close at 4 so that those of us who make deposits after work have to leave work and sit in lines of more than 15 vehicles to get deposits done. I refuse to use the ATM for our business deposits as there was a rash of ATM thefts, and my branch had theirs stolen, twice. I can't risk having my business checking details out there available to some criminals

 

[Tony1902]

Navy has its hands full relieving officers of command.

Don’t know if you’re serious or doing tongue in cheek? My squid child in VA is working for a defense contractor. He’s at risk from a bout in the hospital for CHF three months ago. IMO, USAMRID got cut off at the knees in 2017. No no link I’m a Luddite

 

[NuttMegg]

CNN's Brooke Baldwin Test Positive For Coronavirus

I really like her.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Navy has its hands full relieving officers of command.

What does that have to do with me giving you an updated news story on a hospital ship?

The officer that breached national security? Not connected to this particular hospital ship if I'm not mistaken. Jmo

 

[10ofRods]

Yesterday
New York. 92,743 2468
NewJersey 25,590 537
California 11,126 244
Michigan 10,791 417
Louisiana 9,159 310
Florida 9,008 144

Today
New York 102,863. 2,935
New Jersey 29,895. 646
California. 11,317. 250
Michigan. 12, 744. 479
Louisiana. 10,297. 370
Florida. 9,585. 163

These are updated today and I am looking at California.... They are number three with highest cases but they had a smaller increase on cases and deaths in a day. Are they having trouble testing also?


My parish in Louisiana still has no positive cases.... But the mayor of the parish seat is wanting to sell popcorn on the sidewalk to help his business (he owns the theater in town). I cannot believe this. We are on stay at home orders and this leader of the parish wants people to go out and buy fresh popped popcorn?? No wonder people do not take this seriously!

California is not having "trouble" testing. California doesn't have enough tests to test the entire population - no state does. We are following the same basic protocol being followed by most states and nations. Asymptomatic people don't get tested. People with fevers do get tested. People with a couple of symptoms who are over 60 get a test, people with underlying conditions get a test.

California has (way) fewer places because we did social distancing early and most places took it very seriously. We went to statewide social distancing on March 19, but many schools closed earlier than that. Hospitals and nursing homes banned visitors earlier than that. Here, it's our first responders, the homeless and those with underlying conditions who are dying (usually it's a first responder/healthcare person with an underlying condition - one of the most common being obesity).

You can even see a difference in rates by California county. The Central Valley was resistant to social distancing and still is) and has more cases per capita. Densely populated places like the San Francisco peninsula have more (and parts of LA, although amazingly, Los Angeles isn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be).

We are on track to have 1/8th of New York's death daily (despite having twice the population) when we reach our peak - which will peak 10 days later than New York and by then, we will have enough beds and ventilators.

I hope we are also first to start widespread antibody testing - I think Stanford, USC, UCSF and UCLA hospitals have a healthy competition to be first (so it'll probably be UC Irvine who does it, ha).