Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #43

[bluedivergirl]

Have all of your beaches closed? I doubt it. Did Florida close Bike Week in Daytona with 500,000 in attendance just a few short weeks ago? No. Shut down Spring Break since the beginning of March? No. Did he shut down Super Bowl in Miami, admitting yesterday that he knew about the virus at the time? No.

Florida is also still allowing places of worship to gather together (even though residents are under a stay-at-home policy).

Florida's statewide stay-at-home order still allows gathering in places of worship during coronavirus outbreak

Wow. That's kinda overwhelming.

We have no ocean beaches here.

All your other concerns are totally and completely out of my control.

 

[otto]

Other posters here emphasized that the supplies were not intercepted by the US government. Rather, private brokers offered more money to the sellers. This led to the vendors to cancel sales to Germany and Canada and re-sell the supplies.

If the above is accurate, then the following is supported:
- Germans had no problem offering a price for the supplies in excess of what others could afford.
- They only got upset when they themselves were out bid.

Canada doesn't care which US leaders are acting like pirates. It has to stop.

"Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says he’s very concerned about reports that medical supplies destined for Canada have been diverted to the U.S.

Trudeau has asked his public safety minister and transport minister to look into the reports. He says they need to make sure the personal protective equipment that was ordered in Canada makes it to Canada.

The prime minister says he’s working with the U.S. and is following up on this specific issue. He says he knows the needs are great in the U.S. but says it’s the same in Canada."
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Trudeau: Supplies for Canada diverted to U.S.

 

[10ofRods]

The press, worldwide, is happy to print the news to fit their opinion. IMO they print half truths, or conveniently leave out information just to sow seeds of discord and to keep citizens in an uproar. I have to remind myself in today's events, that what I read is not necessarily what was said, only their interpretation. I will not let news make me distrustful of other countries, or other states because that means that people behind the news win.


MOO only MOO

There is no unanimous "worldwide" press. There are tons of different sources. Almost no one listens or reads al of them. Most people read or listen to none of them and get their info from their friends, families, teachers and preachers.

At any rate, I don't know which media you are talking about - but if you choose what you read carefully, you could compare that to other media and see that there's no overall point of view in the media.

You can read foreign news in translation easily, as well.

 

[Herat]

In California, my area, bank lobbies are now closed. Causing us problems. Trying to figure out some plan b, as I need a cashiers check. Sigh. Drive thru is open with long line of cars

The bank for our business, Wells Fargo closed their lobbies.

So, yes everyone has to sit in the long line at the drive-up to transact business, not just make deposits.

But then, they shortened the drive-up hours and close at 4 so that those of us who make deposits after work have to leave work and sit in lines of more than 15 vehicles to get deposits done. I refuse to use the ATM for our business deposits as there was a rash of ATM thefts, and my branch had theirs stolen, twice. I can't risk having my business checking details out there available to some criminals

 

[Simply Southern]

UPDATED: Attorneys Say Florida Leaders are Choosing Not to Disclose Coronavirus Info - 850 WFTL

Not sure if I'm reading this right, is FL saying they are keeping numbers private?
Eta This is an old story I think, I will self report

Virginia is refusing as well. Several reporter ask about forecast models. The Director of Health listed the University of Washington. They keep asking....don't you have any the state has done. Nope.

I'm scared, I'm looking at more data than they are.

Moo...

 

[BUF]

Don’t know if you’re serious or doing tongue in cheek? My squid child in VA is working for a defense contractor. He’s at risk from a bout in the hospital for CHF three months ago. IMO, USAMRID got cut off at the knees in 2017. No no link I’m a Luddite

It is really easy to post a link...

Just highlight and copy the text on the top bar of article/website you have open...then just past in the reply box

Luddite no more!

 

[Lavender Moon]

CNN's Brooke Baldwin Test Positive For Coronavirus

I really like her.

Yes, I do, too. I thought she looked as if she were not feeling well. Prayers for full recovery of her health.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Why liquor? JMO.

First of all, alcohol is legal and hospitals do not need an overabundance of people coming in to emergency rooms with alcohol withdrawal while sitting next to possible coronavirus patients.

 

[Reasonable & Just]

Okay, I'm going to immerse myself in work. But just a word that there is really no harm in smiling at people (over your mask or whatever), or taking a minute to chat with a lonely stranger in public about mushrooms or gardens, or whatever. And I'm a crabby hermit who has had many trust issues in her life. Just state your boundaries and be ready to enforce them (or run) if transgressed. I would really hate to see our essentially friendly culture change so much. JMO.

 

[Herat]

California is not having "trouble" testing. California doesn't have enough tests to test the entire population - no state does. We are following the same basic protocol being followed by most states and nations. Asymptomatic people don't get tested. People with fevers do get tested. People with a couple of symptoms who are over 60 get a test, people with underlying conditions get a test.

California has (way) fewer places because we did social distancing early and most places took it very seriously. We went to statewide social distancing on March 19, but many schools closed earlier than that. Hospitals and nursing homes banned visitors earlier than that. Here, it's our first responders, the homeless and those with underlying conditions who are dying (usually it's a first responder/healthcare person with an underlying condition - one of the most common being obesity).

You can even see a difference in rates by California county. The Central Valley was resistant to social distancing and still is) and has more cases per capita. Densely populated places like the San Francisco peninsula have more (and parts of LA, although amazingly, Los Angeles isn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be).

We are on track to have 1/8th of New York's death daily (despite having twice the population) when we reach our peak - which will peak 10 days later than New York and by then, we will have enough beds and ventilators.

I hope we are also first to start widespread antibody testing - I think Stanford, USC, UCSF and UCLA hospitals have a healthy competition to be first (so it'll probably be UC Irvine who does it, ha).

Yes, both Cepheid and Abbott are being extremely restrictive in which hospital laboratories are receiving their kits to perform testing.

Governor Newsom mentioned that problem. I know that Monterey and Madera counties are not on the list to get the Cepheid reagents until May.

And Abbott is being very secretive about their information on where kits are going to.

 

[Lavender Moon]

It is really easy to post a link...

Just highlight and copy the text on the top bar of article/website you have open...then just past in the reply box

Luddite no more!

I really appreciate this info, BUF.

 

[10ofRods]

New York state coronavirus deaths rise by 562 - the highest increase in 24 hours - bringing the total to 2935 as cases surpass 100,000

The coronavirus death toll in the state of New York rose by 562 between Thursday and Friday to 2935

The total number of infections in New York is now 102,863 and the vast majority are in New York City

New York state coronavirus deaths rise by 562 in just 24 hours | Daily Mail Online

New York went exponential in the last couple of days. These figures are the result of infections that started 10 days ago or so (14-3 days ago, with probably an average of 10 before people present at the hospital or die at home).

New York is projected to peak in about 7 days, with a peak death rate of 850-900 daily for 3-5 days, then it will come back down. The projection widget posted below has been really accurate (I've been taking daily screen shots for various places to see if their projects were correct - the projections have not had to be adjusted at all, New York's situation is slightly better than originally projected).

New York's total number of deaths will be around 16,000 by August 1. This is due in large part to lack of PPE, appropriate medicines including Z-pacs, and lack of intensive care beds. They will need 10,000 ventilators and approximately that number of ICU beds to lower that number. They are no where close to receiving that (the Navy ship is for the NON-CV19 people who are dying/very ill with other things, like cancer or MS or are in diabetic comas because they can't get their meds/nutrition - but don't have CV).

IHME | COVID-19 Projections

(You'll have to select New York - if you open two windows you can look at Cali and New York side by side).

Yes, I do use the word Cali, as does most of my family, we are California natives.

 

[Simply Southern]

The 1,000-Bed Comfort Was Supposed to Aid New York. It Has 20 Patients. (NYT)

...
On Thursday, though, the huge white vessel, which officials had promised would bring succor to a city on the brink, sat mostly empty, infuriating executives at local hospitals. The ship’s 1,000 beds are largely unused, its 1,200-member crew mostly idle.

Only 20 patients had been transferred to the ship, officials said, even as New York hospitals struggled to find space for the thousands infected with the coronavirus. Another Navy hospital ship, the U.S.N.S. Mercy, docked in Los Angeles, has had a total of 15 patients, officials said.

“If I’m blunt about it, it’s a joke,” said Michael Dowling, the head of Northwell Health, New York’s largest hospital system. “Everyone can say, ‘Thank you for putting up these wonderful places and opening up these cavernous halls.’ But we’re in a crisis here, we’re in a battlefield.”
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Its up to the hospital to push put patients with a non Covid19 diagnosis to the Comfort. Wheres the Director of Emergecny Services for NY City or whomever should be heading this up. He should be overseeing the transfers to elevate work load for medical staff.

The Comfort was not designed, and it was made Very clear it would not treat Covid19. We know ships and airborne viruses are a petri dish for death.

This whining and complaining is getting old. They are now throwing a fit about Samantha's Purse. They want a written agreement they will treat LGB the same as others. My goodness, medical personnel treat all, no matter race, religion, sex, etc. I'd pack my crap and go where I'd be appreciated. SP brought in 75 Dr trained in infectious disease and set up a full ground hospital!!! They worked around the world in horrific conditions. I dare they abuse this humanitarian group.
ETA...
Catholic group slams de Blasio for questioning charity's New York coronavirus field hospital

When [de Blasio] first learned of the relief efforts of Samaritan's Purse, he acted as if New York has been invaded by a hostile force," Donohue told Fox News.

Initially, the mayor said he found it "very troubling" when he learned that Samaritan's Purse wanted to open a pop-up hospital in the park.

Ungrateful.....moo

 

[JerseyGirl]

The Dr. Li Wenliang, Chen Qiushi and Fang Bin of the United States:

The Navy announced it has relieved the captain who sounded the alarm about an outbreak of COVID-19 aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt.

Capt. Brett Crozier, who commands the Roosevelt, an aircraft carrier with a crew of nearly 5,000, was relieved of his command on Thursday, but he will keep his rank and remain in the Navy.

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Translated: The crew of the American aircraft carrier "USS Theodore Roosevelt" say goodbye to their captain with applause and loud "Captain Crozier" calls. Brett Crozier had been removed from office because of a letter of complaint.

Navy Relieves Captain Who Raised Alarm About Coronavirus on Ship

 

[jjenny]

Okay, I'm going to immerse myself in work. But just a word that there is really no harm in smiling at people (over your mask or whatever), or taking a minute to chat with a lonely stranger in public about mushrooms or gardens, or whatever. And I'm a crabby hermit who has had many trust issues in her life. Just state your boundaries and be ready to enforce them (or run) if transgressed. I would really hate to see our essentially friendly culture change so much. JMO.

How are you going to chat if you have to stay 6ft away from other persons? And what does smiling over your mask mean? If you are wearing a mask, you are not supposed to be pulling it down to smile at people.

 

[BHughes]

California is not having "trouble" testing. California doesn't have enough tests to test the entire population - no state does. We are following the same basic protocol being followed by most states and nations. Asymptomatic people don't get tested. People with fevers do get tested. People with a couple of symptoms who are over 60 get a test, people with underlying conditions get a test.

California has (way) fewer places because we did social distancing early and most places took it very seriously. We went to statewide social distancing on March 19, but many schools closed earlier than that. Hospitals and nursing homes banned visitors earlier than that. Here, it's our first responders, the homeless and those with underlying conditions who are dying (usually it's a first responder/healthcare person with an underlying condition - one of the most common being obesity).

You can even see a difference in rates by California county. The Central Valley was resistant to social distancing and still is) and has more cases per capita. Densely populated places like the San Francisco peninsula have more (and parts of LA, although amazingly, Los Angeles isn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be).

We are on track to have 1/8th of New York's death daily (despite having twice the population) when we reach our peak - which will peak 10 days later than New York and by then, we will have enough beds and ventilators.

I hope we are also first to start widespread antibody testing - I think Stanford, USC, UCSF and UCLA hospitals have a healthy competition to be first (so it'll probably be UC Irvine who does it, ha).

Thank you for the clarification. I know the testing is few and far between for every state, wish it wasn't like this! The numbers just amazed me in a way because all the others jumped significantly.

 

[Tony1902]

Yes, both Cepheid and Abbott are being extremely restrictive in which hospital laboratories are receiving their kits to perform testing.

Governor Newsom mentioned that problem. I know that Monterey and Madera counties are not on the list to get the Cepheid reagents until May.

And Abbott is being very secretive about their information on where kits are going to.

Abbot used to have a plant in the Mississippi Delta. Wonder if it’s still there?

 

[CSIDreamer]

Its up to the hospital to push put patients with a non Covid19 diagnosis to the Comfort. Wheres the Director of Emergecny Services for NY City or whomever should be heading this up. He should be overseeing the transfers to elevate work load for medical staff.

The Comfort was not designed, and it was made Very clear it would not treat Covid19. We know ships and airborne viruses are a petri dish for death.

This whining and complaining is getting old. They are now throwing a fit about Samantha's Purse. They want a written agreement they will treat LGB the same as others. My goodness, medical personnel treat all, no matter race, religion, sex, etc. I'd pack my crap and go where I'd be appreciated. SP brought in 75 Dr trained in infectious disease and set up a full ground hospital!!! They worked around the world in horrific conditions. I dare they abuse this humanitarian group.
ETA...
Catholic group slams de Blasio for questioning charity's New York coronavirus field hospital

When [de Blasio] first learned of the relief efforts of Samaritan's Purse, he acted as if New York has been invaded by a hostile force," Donohue told Fox News.

Initially, the mayor said he found it "very troubling" when he learned that Samaritan's Purse wanted to open a pop-up hospital in the park.

Ungrateful.....moo

And I posted a link to an updated article which was 100% deflected because it doesn't fit the narrative.

 

[wishBones1962]

Kentucky plans to release more than 900 prisoners because of the COVID-19 outbreak

I know this is happening in every state, I understand there is no alternative, our prisons & jails are not medically staffed like a hospital. But......this is beginning to concern me as much as the virus. Personally, I don’t see an onslaught of fresh from years of lock up persons willing to stay in another two weeks. I don’t care what level criminal get released, the fact remains they broke the law to the degree prison was imposed. Jmo
Also, they will be tested prior to release. What about where they plan to go, will those people be tested?
Who can police released inmates? As we know most LE cut way back on calls they respond to. Smh and all moo.

In KS, where the ex is incarcerated, I emailed the liason. She claimed KDOC has no plans to release prisoners. I hope to God they do not.

 

[Cryptic]

Canada doesn't care which US leaders are acting like pirates. It has to stop.

"Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says he’s very concerned about reports that medical supplies destined for Canada have been diverted to the U.S.

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Who diverted the supplies, the US government or private brokers. Likewise, I wonder if Bangladesh could afford what Canada paid for the items?

Nobody seems to have a monopoly on being the "good guys". Rather, there is a lot of grey.