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Quoting from the article @JaneEyre posted:

Any extended, unnecessary contact with people, even six feet apart, violates the spirit of the precautions.

“If you’re going to practice intense social distancing, it really means avoiding or limiting contact with people outside of your family, and really staying home most of the time, unless you really need to go out,” Ciminelli said. “But any prolonged kind of engagement outside is really still not social distancing, having that prolonged contact with people that are not in your family."

Ciminelli said the six-feet rule is for when people need to leave their homes for essential reasons, such as running to the store for groceries, or going on a run or walk for the good of physical and mental health.
Sorry, hanging out while 6 feet apart isn’t coronavirus social distancing, expert says

I’m not sure that a mask or scarf really changes the intent of the social distancing rules. It may be somewhat safer, but maybe rethink walking with your friend? Wearing a mask is for extra protection when doing essential things outside our homes, but does it really change the social distancing rules to make it OK to be with a friend when you walk? What if everyone does it? Rhetorical questions to consider. :)

Thank you Lilibet and @JaneEyre for helping to convince me to cancel the meeting with my friend. She agreed that we should be strict about social distancing and not try to do this. We will walk alone...

And thanks again to Websleuths for this thread. (heart emoji) I fervently hope and pray that we will all make it through this pandemic while we wait for effective treatments and a vaccine.
 
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Smerconish on CNN about an hour ago presented the results of polling about whether or not people are willing to wear masks for COVID.

Of some 20k respondents

92% said YES, 8% said no.
 
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Hobby Lobby is not an essential business.

Home Depot is open because construction contractors and the like are considered essential.

Gardening is booming at this time. Nurseries, greenhouses, landscape architects, garden centers and even public farmers' markets are open for business as long as they follow federal guidelines, such as limiting gatherings of people, maintaining social distancing and following other safety protocols to the fullest extent possible.

Many garden centers, greenhouses and nurseries deemed 'essential' businesses'

I personally think we need to find a way to safely encourage gardening. We need victory gardens right now. And it's hands down one of the best things people can do for their physical and mental health right now. Our local nursery lets you place orders online and they will deliver or you can pick up curbside.

My dad's also a contractor. And of course people still have home repair emergencies. My husband or father fix nearly everything in our homes if we get a leak or have some other problem. I can't imagine trying to shut down access to home repair items.
 
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Scotland

A coronavirus outbreak at a care home in Glasgow has left 13 residents dead in just seven days.

The virus is said to have 'swept through' the 90-bed Burlington Court care home in Glasgow, with the victims' families told their deaths may be linked to covid-19.

All 13 residents who died had underlying health issues - Burlington Court cares for OAPs as well as those with epilepsy, Huntington's and Parkinson's Disease.

A source from inside the home told The Sun: 'It's just so sad. How do you deal with something like this? The staff are doing their best to cope.'

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whoosh...... learning learning learning. I now hope there is some possible value here, because I am learning more about ivermectin than I ever want to know in my lifetime!! It is clear that it has been termed "a wonder drug" for so many maladies that are in third world countries, as well as cattle, horses dogs etc. But I was having some trouble connecting our Covid to worms!! But the connection to our virus does get closer when studying Ivermectin in conjunction with strongyloidiasis --(s infection with Strongyloides stercoralis. Findings include rash and pulmonary symptoms (including cough and wheezing), eosinophilia, and abdominal pain with diarrhea) Ok, i admit it...I have already been to Amazon. tee hee
 
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I have wondered the same. Such a fine line... Either we are learning about something with real potential, or we are seeing yet another way that people are going to bring themselves harm! I really hope we have some horse expertise speaking out on this ivermectin...

I was in the vets once a few years ago when this woman and girl came in carrying two cats who they'd mistakenly put dog flea collars on. Both were seizing and both died. Such an easy mistake to make. So I wonder about the efficacy of this drug, too.
 
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Smerconish on CNN about an hour ago presented the results of polling about whether or not people are willing to wear masks for COVID.

Of some 20k respondents

92% said YES, 8% said no.

Nobody I see is wearing masks here in Scotland. Unfortunately I had to go to the supermarket yesterday as my Dad hasn’t been feeling great (thankfully he doesn’t have the virus) I was getting weird looks wearing my mask but I couldn’t care less. At least people were staying away from me.
 
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First anniversary gift of paper will no doubt be particularly appropriate for this couple! imo.
Cardboard cutouts pose as guests for wedding amid COVID-19

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''After Amy Simonson and Dan Stuglik's wedding plans were disrupted amid the outbreak, a packaging company donated more than 100 cardboard cutouts to pose as stand-ins for the family and friends who couldn't attend the wedding this Saturday because of Michigan's stay-at-home order.
Menasha Packaging Co. in Coloma made cutouts to resemble guests tall and short, young and old, with long hair, short hair and ponytails.
“(Stuglik) was just looking for a general person shape, but I was able to make a little bit more realistic audience for them,” Ted Harris, customer service and design manager at Menasha, told The Herald-Palladium.

Stuglik, a Coloma Township police officer, said he'll forever be thankful to Menasha for helping him do something special for his fiancee.''
 
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https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article241740151.html

How many more cruise ships are still out there? The Coast Guard directed ships to go to the country that they are registered in, almost all of them are registered in "Bahamas". Bahamian government refused to allow the ships to dock.

There are still 12 cruise ships with passengers at sea.
Cruise ships are still scrambling for safe harbor
And this one just docked in Miami with dead COVID victims onboard.
Flag Registry: BERMUDA
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article241768491.html
 
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I just talked to my Sister in Michigan. Her Son, my Nephew has the virus. At this point mild. He was the only of her 4 Children who returned to Canada years ago. He is in Toronto. Wife and 2 kids.
 
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Nobody I see is wearing masks here in Scotland. Unfortunately I had to go to the supermarket yesterday as my Dad hasn’t been feeling great (thankfully he doesn’t have the virus) I was getting weird looks wearing my mask but I couldn’t care less. At least people were staying away from me.
That's one good thing, that people steer clear of you. I went to my favorite but very tiny corner store a few minutes ago. I didn't wear even a scarf because I thought I'd be in and out in a minute. There's no room in there for customers to stand even 3' from each other. So I just stood in the door when a few other people came, and told them firmly "only one at a time". The owner looked at me funny, the people looked at me funny, but I don't care anymore.

But this afternoon I will finish my mask that I am making by hand from some 65 year old pillowcases my Grandma from Germany embroidered and tatted so long ago. Something makes me feel good about being protected by her!
 
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That was probably quite some time ago, Trudie. It's been known for many years that collie breeds can't handle Ivermectin, probably since Ivermectin first came out in the early 1980s. But, human safety testing for Ivermectin has already been done.

I'm not endorsing the use of Ivermectin since more testing needs to be done, just pointing out the research.
Yes that research about collies, aussies and similar breeds is clearly understood with ivermectin. That is really good to know as well....
 
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Cuomo's Saturday presser just started, if interested. MSNBC or CNN
 
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I understand why Home Depot is open.

I just don't understand why Home Depot is open for lawn and garden purchases. Are you sure that lawn and garden purchases from home depot are "essential"?

I mean, I can see seed and seedling purchases (maybe, as they can be mail ordered.) But... most people when I went were very interested in roses and ornamental plants.

Believe it or not it is currently hard to order seeds online. I shop multiple stores myself and am a big time veg gardener. So many places are shutting down orders for a while. I got orders in from two places nearly two weeks ago that are no longer taking orders for a while. I'm waiting till my next favorite places opens sales back up to home gardeners in a few days. My garden supplies might be more niche. For many things I'm buying bulk seeds not single packets.

But it's crazy. I found one of the places I like still open yesterday. They are almost sold out of everything while remaining open. The seed packets in many items are gone. You have to spend like $20 and buy bulk of one item. Some of the supply stores for fertilizers are closed too. I have never in my life run into this kind of demand for seed. Not Y2k not 2008 financial crisis. And I've been gardening yearly for about 30 years.

Two years ago I weighed produce daily and was able to grow nearly a ton of food for my family. I expect we'll exceed that this year. But I'm buying ahead seed for next year as well. I save seed with some plants but with others I use hybrids and can't save seed. I'm hoping to have enough for next year as well so I'm not having to fight off the crowds. I wonder how many people are buying seed that will never even get around to planting it?

A ton of friends in my FB feed are suddenly gardening this year. If I'm a seed hoarder, to be fair, I was a seed hoarder before this. ;) But I do actually use my garden seed. I have at least a quarter of an acre in cultivation.
 
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That was probably quite some time ago, Trudie. It's been known for many years that collie breeds can't handle Ivermectin, probably since Ivermectin first came out in the early 1980s. But, human safety testing for Ivermectin has already been done.

I'm not endorsing the use of Ivermectin since more testing needs to be done, just pointing out the research.
Yes that research about collies, aussies and similar breeds is clearly understood with ivermectin. That is really good to know as well....
That's one good thing, that people steer clear of you. I went to my favorite but very tiny corner store a few minutes ago. I didn't wear even a scarf because I thought I'd be in and out in a minute. There's no room in there for customers to stand even 3' from each other. So I just stood in the door when a few other people came, and told them firmly "only one at a time". The owner looked at me funny, the people looked at me funny, but I don't care anymore.

But this afternoon I will finish my mask that I am making by hand from some 65 year old pillowcases my Grandma from Germany embroidered and tatted so long ago. Something makes me feel good about being protected by her!
That is such a lovely thought...and feeling.
 
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