Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #45

[TMAN2014]

I am rooting for Boris Johnson!

 

[Gardenista]

This is an example of why we must always question the stories being told.

CBS News panned for tearful video of nurse claiming she quit over coronavirus concerns

MOO

Wow. I started to watch the video when it was first posted and clicked off of it pretty quickly because it seemed strange to me.

 

[margarita25]

Michigan

It’s been four weeks since Michigan’s first confirmed coronavirus cases. We mapped its spread through the state

“This video tracks the cumulative amount of confirmed COVID-19 cases by county, by day over the four-week period from the first case announced to April 6.”

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Tuesday, April 7: Latest developments on coronavirus in Michigan

“110 new deaths, 1,503 new confirmed cases

Michigan now has eight consecutive days with at least 1,000 new COVID-19 cases.

The state has 17,221 confirmed cases and 727 deaths, after adding 1,503 cases and 110 deaths on Monday, April 6.”

 

[MaryG12]

What would the circumstance be for wearing this?

For wearing out in public

 

[margarita25]

Louisiana

NEW ORLEANS — Latest Numbers:

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  • 582 deaths (+70)
  • 16,284 total cases (+1,417)
  • 1,996 patients hospitalized (+187)
  • 519 in need of ventilators (-44)
  • 63 of 64 parishes reporting cases (+1)
  • 74,655 tests completed (+5,589)

Louisiana Coronavirus Updates: 70 new deaths, new daily record, but ventilators improve

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Edwards: Time to "double down" on mitigation measures

“Governor John Bel Edwards said again today that data show the curve may be starting to flatten - but promised residents if they don't keep up mitigation measures the numbers will go right back up.

"We are seeing early signs that the curve is starting to flatten. What this means is, we have to continue to do the things that have caused the slowing of the spread, and that's the mitigation measures, the stay-at-home order," Edwards said. "You want to see our numbers spike, you stop those mitigation measures, and I promise you they will be right back up there."”

 

[Wicked Strong]

Question:

Does anyone know if the following type of face mask is legit for COVID-19?:

LOL, thanks I needed this. The mayor of the town I'm nearest to has suggested we all wear face masks in the grocery stores. I looked and my husband had a couple of N95 masks from 2010, dust has seeped into the clam shell packaging. I looked at my limited scarfs to which I could repurpose into a mask, I have 3 options to choose from, a dust filled N95 mask (?), a bandana which would look like your picture (bank robber?) or a sheer long scarf with lips and rhinestones. Guess when I'm hungry enough, I'll have to choose. PS, It's been over 2 weeks since I shopped, and I keep waiting until we don't report a new case, but not happening because the people are still traveling! Stay at home people!

MOO

 

[Sundog]

A very close friend that lives and works in China and has been after me to get WeChat for a long time. I would never do it as it is so heavily monitored. Sounds like folks are somewhat getting around it...but not totally...they still know who you are.

I absolutely agree. We never use WeChat in China as it is very dangerous due to government monitoring.

 

[The Night Watchman]

This is an example of why we must always question the stories being told.

CBS News panned for tearful video of nurse claiming she quit over coronavirus concerns

MOO

Extremely powerful video. Has the lasting effect of making people afraid, and and angry at the direction of the coronavirus response.

Exactly what CBS wanted.

 

[Sundog]

White house press briefing underway now.

Live | The White House

 

[Sillybilly]

Probably posted before but just in case:

Covid-19 Fighting Products list

 

[tresir2012]

Wow. I started to watch the video when it was first posted and clicked off of it pretty quickly because it seemed strange to me.

Whenever I now see someone crying on the internet, I think of Lily Allen crying with joy over the Labour manifesto at the election last year.

 

[SuziQ]

Observation of the day: I never realized my husband talks so much.

 

[Sundog]

KUNG PAO TOFU

Earlier someone posted that Schwan's is a delivery service that we could try to get some protein, for us we wanted chicken breasts. We ordered from Kroger but they were out, and so I looked up Schwan's online since I have seen their delivery trucks in our neighborhood, but figured they would be too expensive. They do have many expensive meals, but the price for chicken wasn't too bad, so I ordered it. Also, they give you a date and time and leave it on your doorstep. I was given a date and time for today, after a one week wait due to increase in orders and delayed delivery time. This morning they called me and said that chicken is on back order and they will try to deliver it next week if available.

I am not a good cook, but tomorrow night will try Kung Pao tofu because I have tofu and a seasoning packet to make Kung Pao chicken. I also have some peanuts. Will see how it goes. Time to improvise.

 

[Really?]

For wearing out in public

Ha......for the past 10 days I’ve been studying New Mexico circa late 1800’s till approximately 1910.......fascinating.

 

[The•Qwill•Pen]

There are numerous clinical trials going on for the Ebola drug and the malarial drug though, so they should know how and if the patients are responding. These are considered safe drugs already so not too much of a risk hopefully.

You're correct (except that I would argue that no drug is 100% safe). And in that respect, they at least aren't starting from scratch.

However, they don't have years of study in the setting of patients with Covid19. Moreover, it seems there continues to be a debate on the pathophysiology of this disease, so unless they get lucky or the current assumption/knowledge ends up being accurate, then they're throwing darts at a dart board without their glasses on. The purpose of the drug is to mitigate the effects of the virus, yes? So in that respect, they would have to know, or at least have a very good idea of, how the virus affects the human body. Although, it isn't unprecedented that a treatment is used without completely knowing its MOA or the disease pathology, but do we really have that luxury here? I don't know.

I can think of several treatments we've used in the last 5/10/15 years, which were long- established & accepted standards of practice, that are out-dated today. I can also think of several that were standard, became out-dated (negative outcomes, newer toys, etc), then became standard again--usually with modifications. Basically, we don't know as much as we think we know, even on the most studied of topics.

These articles were published in the last few days. Pretty lengthy (not unlike my posts ), but give a general impression of where things stand, though they may not be all-inclusive.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30165-X/fulltext
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30161-2/fulltext#seccestitle70

To be clear, I'm not dismissing these therapies at all. IMO, it's more about evaluating efficacy, defining the threshold, and calculating risk vs. benefit.

But I'm no expert, so I could most certainly be off-base.

 

[tresir2012]

Controversial drug hydroxychloroquine to be given to coronavirus patients in Australia

Australia are going to start using malaria drug to treat CV19 patients

"A controversial anti-malaria drug will be given to Australian Covid-19 patients in hospitals outside of clinical trials, the federal government confirmed, after the therapeutic goods registration requirements for two drugs were waivedto allow them to be imported to and stockpiled in Australia.

The drugs, hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine, are being explored in clinical trials around the world for their potential as a coronavirus treatment to ease symptoms, or as a preventative drug to stop people being overcome with the infection. Trials are exploring use of the drugs on their own as well as in combination with others.

But clinicians have warned that hydroxychloroquine can cause severe and even life-threatening side-effects, and have cautioned against using it for conditions for which it has not been tested. It is a proven treatment for malaria and for some autoimmune conditions.

Studies on its efficacy as a Covid-19 preventative or treatment are mixed. Much of the focus on the drug came after a small French study, which has since been widely disputed and been found to have omitted data contain spurious results. A small study from China found no benefit to chloroquine being given to Covid-19 patients.

Hydroxychloroquine has also caused division within the White House, Axios reported, after the US president, Donald Trump, hyped it as a “game changer” in treating the virus. The White House infectious disease expert warned Trump that evidence for the drug was only anecdotal and far from proven.

A health department spokesman said the inclusion of the medicine in the national medical stockpile was based on not only its proven clinical uses, but on its potential clinical utility in the absence of a well-documented treatment.
While “clinical trials are critical for ensuring the safety and effectiveness of potential treatments, before they are made available through the health system”, the spokesman said, the drug would be made available not only for clinical trials but “for use in hospitals for ill patients”.

The government said under an emergency exemption to therapeutic goods registration requirements the drug would be sourced from overseas and imported, including intermediates and other raw materials so that local manufacturing could occur.

The department confirmed that the former federal politician Clive Palmer, who has said he will produce 1m doses of the drug, has a prior written arrangement with the commonwealth and so his plan aligned with the emergency exemption.

“It is anticipated that medicines containing hydroxychloroquine sulfate will be made available to the national medical stockpile from a number of pharmaceutical companies,” the spokesman said. “Some of these include generous donations funded by Mr Clive Palmer.”

See more at link.

 

[Lilibet]

Poor Idaho! This could get very unpleasant. We had to deal with Ammon Bundy in Oregon in 2016.

SANDPOINT, Idaho — Inside an old factory building north of Boise, a few dozen people gathered last week to hear from Ammon Bundy, the man who once led an armed takeover of an Oregon wildlife refuge.

The meeting, which appeared to violate orders by Gov. Brad Little of Idaho to avoid group gatherings, was an assertion of what Mr. Bundy said was a constitutional right to peacefully assemble. But Mr. Bundy said he also hoped to create a network of people ready to come to the aid of those facing closure of their businesses or other interference from the government as a result of the coronavirus outbreak.

“If it gets bad enough, and our rights are infringed upon enough, we can physically stand in defense in whatever way we need to,” Mr. Bundy told the meeting. “But we hope we don’t have to get there.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/07/us/coronavirus-idaho-bundy-patriot.html

Similar here:

Ammon Bundy: ‘I Want the Virus Now’

 

[drama_farmer]

Just started reading this new thread....has anyone brought up the recent theory that Covid 19 is more of a blood disease rather than respiratory? Here is a layman's article that explains it better than I can. Food for thought and many on the frontlines are finding this out for themselves....****NO Ventilators...High 02 Sat....CHQ+ZPAK+ZINC??****MOO
this is an important read-Covid-19 had us all fooled, but now we might have finally found its s…

That was a fun read, but I'd like to see a study done by an actual medical professional, not just a screen name, and published on a site other than Medium, where anyone can publish anything. IMO

 

[Sundog]

Sacramento State University is using their parking lot for students to access wi-fi if they don't have access from home. Our university is looking into as we have about 25% of our undergraduate students who are potentially having difficulty getting access to wi-fi to complete their spring courses. Also, since we will be doing summer courses online only, we will continue to need safe options for students to have access to wi-fi.

Sac State offers ‘drive-in wi-fi’ amid coronavirus-induced online classes

 

[SuziQ]

My 40 year old son (banker) just told me he's yelling at all their customers because they're getting too close to him. He said they all look at him like he's crazy. This from my calm, level headed son

My DD and her husband are bankers. They are on drive thru only at their branches. A customer caught my daughter in the parking lot leaving for the day and walked right up to her. My daughter had to tell her to back up six feet and the lady got mad. It was worse before the lobbies closed. People touching and coughing all over everything and trying to shake your hand. Ironically my sil had two close calls from coworkers coming to work sick! They tested positive, but he didn't catch it thank god.