Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #46

[katydid23]

I did a whole "shop" on line at our Harris Teeter, that always has had an excellent express lane for drive up pick up. So I spent a long time putting the shopping list together....and then went to sign up for a pick up time. And there were NONE. So I called the store, and said the first pickup time would be April 19...and the signup started at midnight the next night. And all the sale prices for THIS week could be totally changed by the time I got a pickup after April 19. So screw that.... I just decided to go directly into my Winn Dixie in the first hour of opening this am. The first thing I saw as I walked in was a package of 30 rolls of White Cloud TP, at a ridiculously good price. I wore a mask, gloves, and got a number of wipes as I entered the almost empty store... SO much more accomplished by going inside and moving very quickly. AND all the registers had the plastic barriers between me and the cashier. Sooooooooo...my feeling is now, that with all these precautions, I feel it is truly very safe to do shopping as usual. I am fortunate to be in a relatively low population area...so know that that makes a huge difference. So i will count my 14 days....but truly loved my visit into the store!!!!!!

I totally agree. I wasted a lot of time, effort and money, with my 3 instacart deliveries. I paid much higher grocery prices and was not successful with the most needed items, like TP and fresh produce and eggs.

So I paid very high prices for macaroni, cookies and more canned goods, but missed out on the most important items.

Eventually I did what you described. I put on my protective gear and went to 'senior' hour at my local Albertsons, and was able to get lettuce, spinach, avocados, baby potatoes, broccoli, mushrooms, carrots, TOILET PAPER, paper towels, free range eggs, flour, tortillas, wine and bottled water and ice cream. And many items were ON SALE.

 

[Hazelnutty]

My DD’s big barn wedding is supposed to be the end of May in Pennsylvania. I don’t really expect it to be able to go as planned. Does anyone think there is even a chance?

I'm worried about my DDs wedding mid-October. 200+ Alabama. I just cant see it happening . Not with so many people. It breaks my heart. My DD has been planning this wedding forever .

I hope & pray for both our DDs big day.

 

[PommyMommy]

New York is putting together a team to study the possibility of a 'second wave,' governor says

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"The worst thing that can happen is we make a misstep and we let our emotions get ahead of our logic and fact, and we go through this again in any manner, shape or form," he said.

About 453 people have been treated at the Javits Center in New York City

There are 319 patients in the facility now, Terry Lynam, senior vice president and chief PIO at Northwell Health, told CNN.

The USNS Comfort, US Navy hospital ship also in New York City, has treated 96 patients, and there are 66 patients currently there, Lynam says.

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Texas waives physicians-in-training regulations to combat coronavirus
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"These temporary waivers will expand the staffing capacity of our hospitals and medical facilities, ensuring Texans will have access to the care needed during the response to Covid-19," Abbott said. "I am grateful for all the frontline health care workers across the state serving their fellow Texans during this challenging time."

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Pentagon is using Defense Production Act authority to ramp up N95 mask production

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“On the evening of April 10, the Department of Defense received approval from the White House Task Force to execute the first DPA Title 3 project responding to Covid-19,” Pentagon spokesperson Lt. Col. Mike Andrews said in a statement. “The $133 million project will use these authorities to increase domestic production capacity of N95 masks to over 39 million in the next 90 days."

[...]

April 11 coronavirus news - CNN

 

[katydid23]

Again, there has never been a successful vaccine developed for a coronavirus.

We don't have to wait on vaccines. The biggest turnaround would be finding successful treatments. Many of our diseases, which used to be very deadly, have been conquered because of finding effective treatments. I think we have many potential treatments being tested as we speak.

 

[katydid23]

I'm worried about my DDs wedding mid-October. 200+ Alabama. I just cant see it happening . Not with so many people. It breaks my heart. My DD has been planning this wedding forever .

I hope & pray for both our DDs big day.

In October? Hopefully we will be able to attend weddings by October. JMO

 

[katydid23]

Bumping Sillybilly’s post about mainstream media.

Hey everyone,

WS relies on MSM and recognized leaders, organizations, and scholarly articles for facts. This thread is not about journalistic integrity, it is about trying to learn all we can about Covid-19 through the most trusted sources we have available to us.

If you don't like or believe the particular media that is posted or linked, please just scroll on by.

Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #45

That doesn't say we cannot post other articles which might point out mistakes in previously linked articles. JMO

 

[Lilibet]

I totally agree. I wasted a lot of time, effort and money, with my 3 instacart deliveries. I paid much higher grocery prices and was not successful with the most needed items, like TP and fresh produce and eggs.

So I paid very high prices for macaroni, cookies and more canned goods, but missed out on the most important items.

Eventually I did what you described. I put on my protective gear and went to 'senior' hour at my local Albertsons, and was able to get lettuce, spinach, avocados, baby potatoes, broccoli, mushrooms, carrots, TOILET PAPER, paper towels, free range eggs, flour, tortillas, wine and bottled water and ice cream. And many items were ON SALE.

We got our first Instacart order on Wednesday. Other than TP, paper towels and a few other items we got everything we ordered. The shopper left the store receipt in a bag by mistake (I think). We paid $20 more to Instacart than we would have in person, and with the fees and tip on top of that we paid $67 for the service. We could view this as worth it not to take the risk at the store ourselves, but we were shocked and we aren’t sure we will do it again.

 

[PommyMommy]

There are only 61 ventilators left in New Jersey state warehouses, officials say

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She [NJ Dept of Health Commissioner Judy Persichilli] believes the state will have bed spaces for everyone, but the concern continues to be the availability of personal protection equipment and ventilators.

Persichilli also said the USNS Comfort, a military hospital ship in New York City, will now be accepting patients from New Jersey hospitals.

Massachusetts governor authorizes activation of 3,000 additional National Guard members

Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker has authorized the activation of an additional 3,000 members of the Massachusetts National Guard in anticipation of the expected peak in coronavirus cases in the coming weeks, Baker announced Saturday.

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Experts answer some of your coronavirus questions

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Q: Could Covid-19 spread from second-hand vaping and how quickly will it get into your lungs?

A: Dr. Darria Long, emergency room physician –– "If you are vaping, increased coughing and maybe deeper breathing you may be more likely to spread Covid to other people, but what we also have to emphasize is studies are showing that people who vape, smoke, smoke cannabis, any type of smoking are at higher risk of developing potentially more severe Covid and more complications from Covid. It decreases your immune system and hurts your lungs."

US should have enough testing capacity if country reopens in May, key federal health official says

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Giroir, the assistant Health and Human Services secretary, outlined the four diagnostics needed before easing social distancing restrictions.

"Surveillance to catch new flare-ups; testing of people who have specific symptoms; contact-tracing for confirmed cases; and antibody testing to know who’s recovered from the virus," which he said is weeks away, according to Bloomberg.

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A finger-prick test to identify people who have already had coronavirus should be available "in the course of weeks," Giroir told the outlet.

IRS deposits first wave of stimulus checks to Americans

The Internal Revenue Service sent out the first wave of stimulus checks to Americans on Saturday, according to an announcement the agency made on Twitter.

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More than 400 coronavirus cases are now tied to Cook County Jail in Chicago

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According to the Cook County Sheriff’s Office, 304 detainees at the jail in Chicago and 174 correctional officers have tested positive for Covid-19.

Of the detainees sickened in the outbreak, 20 have been hospitalized and 39 have been moved to a recovery facility. Earlier this week, officials announced that two detainees died of "apparent" complications due to coronavirus, pending autopsy results.

[...]

April 11 coronavirus news - CNN

 

[katydid23]

We got our first Instacart order on Wednesday. Other than TP, paper towels and a few other items we got everything we ordered. The shopper left the store receipt in a bag by mistake (I think). We paid $20 more to Instacart than we would have in person, and with the fees and tip on top of that we paid $67 for the service. We could view this as worth it not to take the risk at the store ourselves, but we were shocked and we aren’t sure we will do it again.

Yes, it is a judgment call for sure. Paying more, for the luxury not to have to go out of the house is worth it.

But my main issue was not being able to get items we needed most. I waited 9 days for the delivery and then received no milk, bread or eggs.

My daughter and her boyfriend have been doing most of our errands and shopping for us, and I appreciate it so much. But I hate asking her to go out as well. We live in Los Angeles suburb, that is peaking right now.

 

[katydid23]

Does anyone know about these?
3:18 mark Chilblains
What a strange coincidence that I have a bright red square patch on my big toe. Caused from cold?...but I live in So. California. It doesn't hurt, isn't itchy, it's not a fungus, but it won't go away. It's still bright red for over a week. Pimple Doctor says it may be a sign of Covid Positive. You're the only people I'm telling for now. I feel fine.

Chilblains - Symptoms and causes

oh NO....another symptom to be afraid of....yikes....

Each time I smell my husband making coffee in the morning, and I taste my morning oatmeal and cinnamon, I rejoice that I haven't lost my sense of taste or smell...

Each time I touch my forehead with the back of my hand, and it is not hot to the touch. I rejoice.

When ever I check my oximeter, and see that my lungs are at 98, I smile and rejoice.

When I do my deep breathing exercises, and note that my chest does not feel tight, and I don't need my inhaler, I relax and rejoice...

When I wash my face and hands, and verify that my eyes are not circled in red, I smile a little smile...

But now I have to check my toes for red squares????

 

[Curious Me]

Looking at the world in photos - week of Jan 18-25. Everyone is in hazmat suits in the third week of January in Wuhan, so they knew that it was highly contagious and deadly. Why did the rest of the world wait until the virus was confirmed in their countries to react? This same week, China started building the 11 days hospital.

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20 photographs of the week

Do any of you remember the date when you personally became aware of this virus, at first vaguely in the news, and not yet in your area?

In So. California, I know I was already aware of the virus but as only a distant threat.

On Jan. 23--I saw a disgusting video of a woman eating Bat Soup and mentioned it in an email.

On Feb. 9-- around the Chinese New Year celebration here, I got on an elevator after a bunch of Chinese people got off on their way to the celebration, and it crossed my mind. I was hearing things and beginning to worry.

By Feb. 14th-- I was starting to feel cautious. I went to a gathering and it crossed my mind again.

By Feb 22nd-- I wondered if it was safe to babysit my granddaughter.

By March 3rd-- I finally was convinced I should be careful, but I never imagined this full-blown Pandemic. Still seems unreal.

When did you become aware of something happening elsewhere and then in your backyard?

 

[imstilla.grandma]

“It is quite surreal for us to see this whole situation unfolding on the planet below,” said Jessica Meir, who last year took part in the first all-female spacewalk.

“We can tell you that the Earth still looks just as stunning as always from up here, so it’s difficult to believe all the changes that have taken place since both of us have been up here.”

As an emergency physician in the army, Morgan said he feels a little guilty coming back midway through the medical crisis.

“It’s very hard to fathom,” Morgan said.

Meir said it would be difficult not being able to hug family and friends after seven months off the planet. She expects to feel even more isolated on Earth than in space.
Astronauts prepare to return from ISS to world transformed by coronavirus

 

[tresir2012]

The Constitution was written in 1789, but I know that's not the point.
There were a lot of things that the founders could not foresee, living in the 18th century while we live in the 21st. That's precisely why we have Constitutional Amendments.

The National Emergencies Act is a federal law, passed in 1976, that allows the President to activate emergency powers during a national crisis.

I agree 100% that we need to stay home. The president and the governors are abridging our normal freedoms (like to go outside and stand near someone, or the right to assembly) in order to keep us alive and to keep the hospitals functioning. It's like when men were drafted into war, even though so many didn't want to go. A national emergency takes precedence.

We are still a democratic republic. We still vote for our leaders, we still have freedom of speech and the press and to worship. We just can't assemble right now.

We can "assemble" via the net though. Didn't have the net in 1789.

 

[katydid23]

Do any of you remember the date when you personally became aware of this virus, at first vaguely in the news, and not yet in your area?

In So. California, I know I was already aware of the virus but as only a distant threat.

On Jan. 23--I saw a disgusting video of a woman eating Bat Soup and mentioned it in an email.

On Feb. 9-- around the Chinese New Year celebration here, I got on an elevator after a bunch of Chinese people got off on their way to the celebration, and it crossed my mind. I was hearing things and beginning to worry.

By Feb. 14th-- I was starting to feel cautious. I went to a gathering and it crossed my mind again.

By Feb 22nd-- I wondered if it was safe to babysit my granddaughter.

By March 3rd-- I finally was convinced I should be careful, but I never imagined this full-blown Pandemic. Still seems unreal.

When did you become aware of something happening elsewhere and then in your backyard?

Good post.
I remember my timeline pretty well because I had an airline ticket purchased and needed to make a decision.

Jan 30th---At the end of January I was aware of the virus, thanks to Amonet and this thread that was started. And it did spur me on to buy some extra medications, TP , water jugs and canned food.

Feb 2nd---In early February, my older brother called to remind me that he was going to be out of state, when my Mom was celebrating her 90th birthday. On our Christmas visit I had promised to fly up for that party.

I went ahead and booked a 2 week flight, from LAX to Reno, from march 7th to march 21st.

March 2nd---...after reading this forum, I began to feel a bit nervous about the flight and going to LAX, etc. My kids didn't want me to fly, but as I told them, my Mom was having a milestone birthday, and I didn't want her to be all alone.

I even had a private conversation with Margarita about this stupid decision, and she set me straight about the possible risks...

I flew on the 7th, and wore a mask and gloves. I didn't see anyone else wearing any PPE, until I passed Japan Airlines, and saw an entire flight of departing passengers, ALL wearing masks.

Mar 7th--Even the flight attendant asked me if I was ill........I said NO, just preventative measure, but she seemed to think I was a nut case for doing so....


What a difference a week makes.

My Mom lives in her own 2 bedroom apt, but it is part of a senior community complex. So there are a lot of communal activities and restaurants etc, hairdressers, exercise classes, for them to take part in.

March 11th--While I was visiting, things imploded. The NBA cancelled their season, and people were suddenly aware of the coming crisis.

I went to the local grocery store and bought my Mom a month worth of supplies for her kitchen. She had voiced a lot of concern about not being able to get out, as the Community shuttle bus had been cancelled.

Mar 12th---In fact, by March 12th, her Senior Complex asked ALL GUESTS to leave as soon as possible. They were no longer allowing the residents to have visitors, or to use any of the communal areas.

So I flew home a week early. Thank goodness for trip insurance.

Mar 13th---what a difference....LAX was full of people wearing masks and gloves. Not everyone, but way more than just the previous week, where I was the only one. lol

I have been pretty much on lock down since March 13th. So far so good.

 

[tresir2012]

I am sorry to say, that there is probably not a chance that wedding day will happen as planned. And I doubt that all of the guests would attend.

Sorry. I don't think that I am wrong on this, because several events planned for Summer, 2020, have already been canceled. We may not even have baseball this season.

In the UK, all weddings have been stopped. Also Wimbledon (June) and the Edinburgh Festival (August) have been cancelled, for the first time in their history. F1 Grand Prix races have been cancelled or postponed till later in the year. Glastonbury is cancelled and many other things I cannot remember. Basically everything has been cancelled or postponed.

 

[cass523]

As of April 11, there were 58,151 reported cases in the state, including 3,599 additional cases disclosed Saturday.

New Jersey has completed a total of 111,410 tests with 44.3% of the tests coming back positive as of Saturday.

There have been 2,183 deaths related to coronavirus in New Jersey. Officials reported 251 new deaths Saturday


New Jersey's auto insurers are providing credits and rebates to consumers in the wake of the coronavirus pandemic that has left all but essential workers homebound.

Among them are Geico, NJM Insurance Group and Progressive, which combined have nearly half of the state's market share.

Gov. Phil Murphy ordered nearly all of the state's residents to stay home and closed nonessential businesses on March 21, bringing new meaning to a traffic standstill.

It presumably has led to fewer auto accidents.

Coronavirus NJ: Auto insurers hand out credits, rebates as drivers stay home

 

[Lilibet]

Do any of you remember the date when you personally became aware of this virus, at first vaguely in the news, and not yet in your area?

In So. California, I know I was already aware of the virus but as only a distant threat.

On Jan. 23--I saw a disgusting video of a woman eating Bat Soup and mentioned it in an email.

On Feb. 9-- around the Chinese New Year celebration here, I got on an elevator after a bunch of Chinese people got off on their way to the celebration, and it crossed my mind. I was hearing things and beginning to worry.

By Feb. 14th-- I was starting to feel cautious. I went to a gathering and it crossed my mind again.

By Feb 22nd-- I wondered if it was safe to babysit my granddaughter.

By March 3rd-- I finally was convinced I should be careful, but I never imagined this full-blown Pandemic. Still seems unreal.

When did you become aware of something happening elsewhere and then in your backyard?

I was aware of it when @Amonet first started the thread, but other current events had my attention. It was sort of “on” in the background. I’m not sure what news report brought me here on Feb. 26 (thread #7), but this is where I come when there is big news I want to follow. I’ve been here ever since and I am so grateful for all the good information and suggestions that helped me prepare.

I went back to Thread #7 to review and ran across this post by @Henry2326 on February 27 that gave me chills. It’s all come true! And more.

Here's a look at some of the ways daily life could change if coronavirus spreads within the US.
• Some schools and social events could shut down
• You might be urged to work from home
• Health care systems could become taxed
If coronavirus spreads in your community, here's what could happen - CNN

 

[Curious Me]

@katydid23 You remember the lead up to this Pandemic so vividly. Glad you got to get your Mom some groceries. Relieved you managed to get home and are doing fine.

 

[Curious Me]

@Lilibet It's a good thing we were paying attention. Coming here helped to prepare early. It made going through the fast changes to reality easier, but it still seems unreal. I miss normal.

BTW, I have found it very interesting hearing about how delivery orders work out. Take care.

Good Night Everyone.

 

[Really?]

I started following this thread closer when the pics started showing people in China being physically chased, captured and thrown into a white box shaped thingy hitched to a vehicle. Oh my goosh,,,,,the Hazmat Suited Dudes.

Then we saw people collapsed on the sidewalks in their business suits.

Yikes, we were due for a trip to the beach house......so..
March 6th I loaded up on TP....56 double rolls in all, dried and canned beans. Bought some salt pork . Corn bread mix. Glory seasoned southern style blackeye peas.yummy.
Meats n veg......etc etc.


March 7th we made our way down.
I scooped out some soil from last years pots.

I’ve been saving the coffee grounds, egg shells, potato peels and lint from the dryer.......etc.
I’m planting seeds I scavenged from my variety of peppers and 3 different tomatoes. Basil seed should be here Tuesday.

Back on our last trip here I had bought the sweetest cantaloupe I had ever tasted. It was so good I saved some seeds. Woot ! I hope I get a melon or two.

Happy holidays....stay safe