Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #46

[Tbone144]

In my area in North San Diego, nearly everyone is wearing masks.
We've got 6 cases, 0 deaths. Population 45,000.

Last week I was only one in FedEx with the mask. Today all the employees were wearing them and about half the customers I would says it’s running about 50/50 right now in East Houston. Hopefully this is it for being in the public although I’m sure I’ll get more mask requests. I’m making everyone 2 unless they are in healthcare or pubic (my sister works for USPS on delivery).

 

[mickey2942]

I don't expect much to happen soon. As this started, there were alot of missteps. Much of that occurred because everything was so unknown.

The issue is that so many jobs in other areas of the United States, are connected with what is happening in NYC, DC, LA, Seattle, that even if people where I live get a "go ahead", not much is going to really happen in many places, because the pipeline areas that feed the workload, are still closed down.

 

[pocketaccent]

CA tells insurers to return some premiums, including auto insurance, due to COVID-19
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Lara’s bulletin impacts insurance lines with a decreased risk of loss due to the crisis, including private passenger and commercial automobile, workers’ compensation, commercial multi-peril and liability, and medical malpractice, according to a news release from the commissioner’s office.

The order would cover premiums for at least March and April, and could extend through May if statewide stay-at-home restrictions remain in place.
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Under the bulletin, insurance companies would have to provide a premium credit, reduction, refund or other adjustments as soon as possible, but no later than August.
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[SeattleStew]

It's a hard undertaking, for sure. We definitely need a vaccine and good treatments.

I totally agree. And I personally will not feel confident about a "re-opening of the economy" until there is a way to test EVERYONE for antibodies and /neg status!

Until then, my family and I ain't do'in it!

 

[Herat]

It's a hard undertaking, for sure. We definitely need a vaccine and good treatments.

And we need a thoughtful, coordinated, and clearly described program to open businesses.

I am emphasizing:

Thoughtful: Using input of multiple sources
Coordinated: No one person randomly tweeting
Clearly Described: A Plan to avoid confusion and changing mind midstream without consideration of the appropriate advisors.....

 

[Trino]

What is this???
Trump says he has the authority to reopen. Really? According to this and a few other statements, he did not close businesses/cities/counties/states.

Trump Declares He Has Power to ‘Open Up’ States, Not Governors

And, this is rather amusing. Six states rally around Cuomo and will decide when to reopen, AND Washington, Oregon, and California are deciding on their own when to reopen. Good for them. No reopening party.

Cuomo, Northeast Governors Say They Will Coordinate Reopening, Though Trump Insists It’s His Decision

 

[LadyL]

Diplomats, consultants create a made-for-Canada solution to get critical supplies from China

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-building-own-ppe-supply-chain-in-china-1.5530259

 

[Sundog]

Control of information in the People’s Republic of China has been a feature since its founding in 1949. Today, China’s State Secrets Law, which came into effect in 1989 and was revised in 2010, mandates that information be given a classification, with the charge of revealing state secrets and internal information carrying harsh criminal penalties.

Explainer: As Beijing declares victory over the coronavirus, can we trust its data? | Hong Kong Free Press HKFP

"Exactly what is considered to be classified is a state secret itself" (excerpt BBM)

 

[margarita25]

World Health Organization (WHO) on Twitter
"Some countries and communities have now endured several weeks of social and economic restrictions. Some countries are considering when they can lift these restrictions; others are considering whether and when to introduce them"-@DrTedros #COVID19 #coronavirus
11:18 AM - 13 Apr 2020

World Health Organization (WHO) on Twitter
"In both cases, these decisions must be based first on foremost on protecting human health, and guided by what we know about the #coronavirus and how it behaves. Since the beginning, this has been an area of intense focus for WHO"-@DrTedros #COVID19
11:19 AM - 13 Apr 2020

World Health Organization (WHO) on Twitter
"As we’ve said many times before, this is a new virus & the first pandemic caused by a #coronavirus. We’re all learning, all the time & adjusting our strategy, based on the latest available evidence. We can only say what we know & we can only act on what we know"-@DrTedros
11:19 AM - 13 Apr 2020

World Health Organization (WHO) on Twitter
"Evidence from several countries is giving us a clearer picture about this virus, how it behaves, how to stop it & how to treat it. We know that #COVID19 spreads fast & we know that it is deadly – 10 times deadlier than the virus responsible for the 2009 flu pandemic"-@DrTedros
11:21 AM - 13 Apr 2020

World Health Organization (WHO) on Twitter
"We know that the #coronavirus can spread more easily in crowded environments like nursing homes. We know that early case-finding, testing, isolating caring for every case & tracing every contact is essential for stopping #COVID19 transmission"-@DrTedros
11:22 AM - 13 Apr 2020

World Health Organization (WHO) on Twitter
"We know that in some countries, #COVID19 cases are doubling every 3 to 4 days. However, while COVID-19 accelerates very fast, it decelerates much more slowly. In other words, the way down is much slower than the way up"-@DrTedros #coronavirus
11:23 AM - 13 Apr 2020

World Health Organization (WHO) on Twitter
"That means control measures must be lifted slowly, and with control. It cannot happen all at once. Control measures can only be lifted if the right public health measures are in place, including significant capacity for contact tracing"-@DrTedros #COVID19 #coronavirus
11:23 AM - 13 Apr 2020

World Health Organization (WHO) on Twitter
"But while some countries are considering how to ease restrictions, others are considering whether to introduce them – especially many low- and middle-income countries in Africa, Asia and Latin America"-@DrTedros #COVID19 #coronavirus
11:24 AM - 13 Apr 2020

World Health Organization (WHO) on Twitter
"In countries with large poor populations, the #StayHome orders & other restrictions used in high-income countries may not be practical. Many poor people, migrants & refugees are already living in overcrowded conditions with few resources & little access to health care"-@DrTedros
11:25 AM - 13 Apr 2020

World Health Organization (WHO) on Twitter
"How do you survive a lockdown when you depend on your daily labor to eat? News reports from around the world describe how many people are in danger of being left without access to food"-@DrTedros #COVID19 #coronavirus
11:26 AM - 13 Apr 2020

World Health Organization (WHO) on Twitter
"Meanwhile, schools have closed for an estimated 1.4 billion children. This has halted their education, opened some to increased risk of abuse, and deprived many of their primary source of food"-@DrTedros #COVID19 #coronavirus
11:26 AM - 13 Apr 2020

World Health Organization (WHO) on Twitter
"As I've said many times, physical distancing restrictions are only part of the equation & there are many other basic public health measures that need to be put in place"-@DrTedros #COVID19 #coronavirus
11:27 AM - 13 Apr 2020

World Health Organization (WHO) on Twitter
"We also call on all countries to ensure that where #StayHome measures are used, they must not be at the expense of human rights. Each government must assess their situation, while protecting all their citizens & especially the most vulnerable"-@DrTedros #COVID19 #coronavirus
11:28 AM - 13 Apr 2020

World Health Organization (WHO) on Twitter
"To support countries in making these decisions, WHO will tomorrow be publishing its updated strategic advice. The new strategy summarizes what we’ve learned and charts the way forward"-@DrTedros #COVID19 #coronavirus
11:32 AM - 13 Apr 2020

World Health Organization (WHO) on Twitter
"[The new strategy] It includes 6 criteria for countries as they consider lifting restrictions that:

transmission is controlled

health system capacities are in place to detect, test, isolate & treat every #COVID19 case & trace every contact"-@DrTedros #coronavirus
11:32 AM - 13 Apr 2020

World Health Organization (WHO) on Twitter

outbreak risks are minimized in special settings like health facilities & nursing homes

preventive measures are in place in workplaces, schools & other places where it’s essential for people to go

importation risks can be managed"-
@DrTedros #COVID19 #coronavirus
11:32 AM - 13 Apr 2020

World Health Organization (WHO) on Twitter
6 communities are fully educated, engaged & empowered to adjust to the “new norm”.
Every country should implement a comprehensive set of measures to slow down #COVID19 transmission & save lives, with the aim of reaching a steady state of low-level or no transmission"-@DrTedros
11:32 AM - 13 Apr 2020

World Health Organization (WHO) on Twitter
"Countries must balance between measures that address the mortality caused by #COVID19, and from other diseases due to overwhelmed health systems, as well as the social economic impacts"-@DrTedros #coronavirus
11:33 AM - 13 Apr 2020

World Health Organization (WHO) on Twitter
"As the #COVID19 pandemic has spread, its public health and socioeconomic impacts have been profound, and have disproportionately affected the vulnerable. Many populations have already experienced a lack of access to routine, essential health services"-@DrTedros #coronavirus
11:33 AM - 13 Apr 2020

World Health Organization (WHO) on Twitter
"Our global connectedness means the risk of re-introduction and resurgence of #COVID19 will continue. Ultimately, the development and delivery of a safe and effective vaccine will be needed to fully interrupt transmission"-@DrTedros #coronavirus
11:35 AM - 13 Apr 2020

Ten million stars for this post @PommyMommy and for Doc T!!!!! Yes I agree a thousand percent!!

 

[pocketaccent]

Amazon puts new food delivery customers on waitlist, converts L.A.-area store to warehouse amid high demand for service

Soaring demand for online food delivery during the coronavirus pandemic has forced Amazon to create a waitlist for new shoppers. It’s part of a number of changes Amazon is making to its food delivery business.

Shoppers who want to order through Whole Food or Amazon Fresh have recently found it nearly impossible to find an open delivery or pickup slot. Beginning Monday, Amazon said it’s requiring new customers that want to use those services to “sign up for an invitation” to help it handle the demand crush.
...

 

[Sundog]

"Exactly what is considered to be classified is a state secret itself" (excerpt BBM)

Replying to my own post. When you stand in the center of Tiananmen Square in Beijing, which is the seat of the Chinese government, there is the Great Hall of the People which is the site of the National People's Congress (legislature) and the Communist Party (executive), but there is no judicial branch. Not that any of us are surprised, but there is not even any lip service to it. For those of us who are used to our three branches of government.

 

[tmar]

Australian researchers discover a way to help two people breathe from one ventilator in major coronavirus breakthrough amid global shortage

Levi Parsons For Daily Mail Australia
2 hrs ago
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Australian researchers have found a way to split life-saving ventilators between two patients.

The coronavirus crisis has already put major strain on the global demand for breathing machines and the discovery is being hailed as a breakthrough.

But researchers from Monash University, The Alfred and The Royal Women's Hospital in Melbourne warn using one machine for two sets of lungs should only be attempted in the most critical of circumstances when intensive care units are overrun.
The team successfully tested ventilator splitting in a simulated setting, with the results of the study published on Tuesday in the international journal Anaesthesia.
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'Then we've contracted ResMed, a great Australian firm that manufactures here in Australia which is really important, to help add another 5,500.

'We're expecting to have about 7,500 ventilator ICU beds that are ready and available for even the most difficult of circumstances, but then with spare capacity around Australia because one may never know exactly where a hot spot or an outbreak might occur.'

 

[oceanblueeyes]

So a certain number of preventable deaths is okay? I wonder what that number is.

If they go too slow and methodical and a complete collapse of the economy takes place the death toll could be terrible. JMO.

Afternoon everyone!

I'm worried about the uptick in suicides, and even murder/suicides due to the desperate state of our economy. Have suicides rates climbed during the pandemic because we know all too well desperate times can mean desperate measures taken by some? TIA

Also I wonder if drug overdoses have been higher since social distancing began which may mean isolation for some who have no families?

I'm worried desperation/ severe depression, and how it can elevate what already takes many more lives per year than the virus has taken thus far.

Vehicle accidents should decline greatly since being told to stay home, and socially distance from others.

As an aside: sorry just coming online today, and havent caught up.

Ranch, do you know how many patients are aboard the military hospital ship in NYC being treated? I read yesterday it's a very small number. Iirc, it was less than 100 as of then. If so, that makes no sense to me because Cuomo stressed it was urgently needed.

It takes a tremendous amount of taxpayers money, and military personnel to bring the ship where it is most needed, and a full medical staff that are fully prepared to care of 1000 patients. .

I would have thought by now it would be filled to the 1000 bed capacity with as many cases NY, and NJ has. It just seems to not be cost effective to just sit there not filled with patients.

TIA

Jmhoo

 

[jjenny]

For everyone.

Not for me, thanks but no thanks.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

We have looked at information from COMTRADE, a database maintained by the United Nations that tracks the bilateral trade for almost 200 countries and 5,000 product categories. Some of these categories are broader than the specific products we’d like to consider, but they offer internationally comparable data.

Professional masks
Professional masks, such as the now famous N95 masks, are essential in the battle against COVID-19, but in Canada, most of them are imported. They appear in the COMTRADE product category as “breathing appliances and gas masks” and “protective masks” having no mechanical parts.

Beyond professional masks, the WTO recently published a list of products that are essential for tackling COVID-19. We tracked 75 of these products in COMTRADE data. Let’s call them COVID-19 products.

In Canada, COVID-19 products accounted for 3.9 per cent of total imports in 2018, compared to 5.8 per cent in the U.S. These products include medicinal products, immunological products, medical, surgical or dental instruments and plastic products, among which there are certain types of masks. The exact composition of COVID product imports differs in each country, reflecting their different manufacturing structures.

The COMTRADE data also shows that Canada is a key supplier to the United States for some products that the U.S. does not export much itself to other countries, and therefore rarely produces. They include antibiotics other than penicillin, sterilizers for medical, surgical or laboratory use and electro-cardiographs.

In times of crisis, it’s easier to ensure quick deliveries, if necessary, with commercial partners that are geographically close and with whom we share a trusting relationship. And so maintaining a harmonious relationship between Canada and the U.S. is important for both countries.
Why Canada needs the United States to fight the coronavirus
bbm

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Afternoon everyone!

I'm worried about the uptick in suicides, and even murder/suicides due to the desperate state of our economy. Have suicides rates climbed during the pandemic because we know all too well desperate times can mean desperate measures taken by some? TIA

Also I wonder if drug overdoses have been higher since social distancing began which may mean isolation for some who have no families?

I'm worried desperation/ severe depression, and how it can elevate what already takes many more lives per year than the virus has taken thus far.

Vehicle accidents should decline greatly since being told to stay home, and socially distance from others.

As an aside: sorry just coming online today, and havent caught up.

Ranch, do you know how many patients are aboard the military hospital ship in NYC being treated? I read yesterday it's a very small number. Iirc, it was less than 100 as of then. If so, that makes no sense to me because Cuomo stressed it was urgently needed.

It takes a tremendous amount of taxpayers money, and military personnel to bring the ship where it is most needed, and a full medical staff that are fully prepared to care of 1000 patients. .

I would have thought by now it would be filled to the 1000 bed capacity with as many cases NY, and NJ has. It just seems to not be cost effective to just sit there not filled with patients.

TIA

Jmhoo

USNS Comfort, Javits Center still largely empty of NYC coronavirus patients

The USNS Comfort and Javits Center field hospital remained mostly empty Friday — as emergency rooms teemed with coronavirus patients and federal and state officials blamed each other for the vacancies.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/09/usns-comfort-and-javits-center-mostly-empty-amid-coronavirus/

 

[Inthedetails]

Amazon puts new food delivery customers on waitlist, converts L.A.-area store to warehouse amid high demand for service

Soaring demand for online food delivery during the coronavirus pandemic has forced Amazon to create a waitlist for new shoppers. It’s part of a number of changes Amazon is making to its food delivery business.

Shoppers who want to order through Whole Food or Amazon Fresh have recently found it nearly impossible to find an open delivery or pickup slot. Beginning Monday, Amazon said it’s requiring new customers that want to use those services to “sign up for an invitation” to help it handle the demand crush.
...

A local politician in my area is asking people who are able to do their own grocery shopping to do so, and save deliveries for people who truly cannot go to the stores themselves.

jmo

 

[tmar]

China coronavirus infections rise as some Spanish companies prepare to restart work

Helen Davidson
3 hrs ago
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China has seen a rise in Covid-19 cases along its northern border with Russia, as some Spanish factories and construction sites are preparing to resume work amid other continuing restrictions.

On Sunday China’s national health commission reported 108 new infections, the highest number in more than five weeks, surpassing Saturday’s 99, which was nearly double the 46 reported on Friday.

All but 10 of the cases were imported, and seven of the local infections were in the Heilongjiang province, a northern region where authorities are increasing restrictions and monitoring after a rise in people with Covid-19 crossing the Russian border.
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Some Spanish companies will resume operations on Monday, at the end of a two-weeks halt to all non-essential activity. The country’s death toll has fallen over recent days, but as a small bump in deaths was reported on Sunday, the prime minister, Pedro Sanchez, warned that the locked-down country was “far from victory”.
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In the US, Donald Trump took to Twitter on Sunday night to angrily deny accusations that he rebuffed advice to implement physical distancing measures as far back as February, describing the New York Times, which printed the allegations, as a “fake” paper.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Not for me, thanks but no thanks.

Why?

Total transparency. That's an asset for everyone in my opinion.

 

[tresir2012]

USNS Comfort, Javits Center still largely empty of NYC coronavirus patients

The USNS Comfort and Javits Center field hospital remained mostly empty Friday — as emergency rooms teemed with coronavirus patients and federal and state officials blamed each other for the vacancies.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/09/usns-comfort-and-javits-center-mostly-empty-amid-coronavirus/

This is good that they are empty though isn't it ? It means the expected cases have not materialised.

ETA here is a link about our Nightingale London hospital that says hospitals were only 3/4 full at that time (3rd April) so the Nightingale may not be needed.
"Nightingale emergency coronavirus hospital may not be needed as urgently as expected | World news | The Guardian" Nightingale emergency coronavirus hospital may not be needed as urgently as expected

 

[Deleted member 39678]

This is good that they are empty though isn't it ? It means the expected cases have not materialised.

I guess.

I thought that NYC hospitals are overwhelmed.