Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #47

[squareandrabbet]

Farmers could dry up a percentage of their cows. Minimize their work load and reduce the high protein feed costs.

I just checked, and it seems like it takes 30 days to successfully "dry out" a cow. Also to appear to have something to do with calving (I agree I'm no farm expert). This could be great, if the farmer is willing to accept that the economy is dead for, at this point, I'm guessing minimum 60+ days/2 months. They're probably hoping it's not.

 

[CSIDreamer]

My stimulus payment was automatically deposited into checking account today. Happy to have it.

I need to change my tagline like you've done with yours. I try to label my specific posts with my state lol.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

"We regret the decision of the president of the United States to order a halt in funding to the World Health Organization," WHO Direct0r-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said Wednesday in response to President Trump's plan to stop U.S. money from going to the agency.
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Responding to a question about the U.S. accusations today, Dr. Mike Ryan, executive director of WHO's emergencies programs, said, "In the first weeks of January the WHO was very, very clear."

"We alerted the world on January the 5th," Ryan said. "Systems around the world, including the U.S., began to activate their incident management systems on January the 6th. And through the next number of weeks, we've produced multiple updates to countries, including briefing multiple governments, multiple scientists around the world, on the developing situation — and that is what it was, a developing situation."
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As the U.S death toll from COVID-19 soared past 26,000 on Wednesday, the White House issued a statement reiterating Trump's complaints about WHO.
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'We Alerted The World' To Coronavirus On Jan. 5, WHO Says In Response To U.S.

 

[ilovewings]

Flying versus driving?
Flying out of deserted airport with very few people on the plane.
Driving two days getting gas frequently plus a hotel stay.

Those are both risky: i don't fly---i am not looking forward to traveling back to Michigan from Florida--- by car.

 

[10ofRods]

South central Ohio. 6 cases in my county, 20 in county I need to shop in. We have construction masks, not N95s. I think I'll probably wait it out a little longer. We eat a special diet and if we go off it, it's pretty miserable for several days after so I want to avoid that. Better that than COVID-19 though.

That's a pretty low rate (similar to where I live). I guess I might drive by and check out the store to see if it was crowded.

I bet if you called the store and had a brief shopping list of what you really needed, they would be happy to put it into a cart and call you or text you when it was ready. Stores that have instacart (but aren't delivering) still have pick-up but it may not exist in South Central Ohio.

If they won't do that for you, ask them when the store is least crowded. Otherwise, drive by mid-morning and mid-evening, to see which is less crowded (if you're an early bird, maybe store opening would be a good time).

Bring your wipes with you. If people aren't keeping a distance, abandon cart and move away, then come back and wipe while making tutting noises.

If you don't already wear glasses, be sure to wear sunglasses throughout. Obviously, once groceries are loaded, you disinfect your face and hands. I have to remember not to touch the mask itself, only the loops, because I'm forgetful like that.

As for timing, well, your risk is very low due to the few cases where you live. You might also ask the store if their cashiers and baggers are wearing masks.

I guess if I found out that even the cashiers weren't wearing masks, my motivation to go to the store would drop. However, we too have some special dietary needs and will be facing your issue in two weeks. DH will go with mask to store (he's healthier than me) and grab what we need if it's there. Fortunately, we can use instacart although it's getting mega-expensive to do so. I'm shocked at the prices on some things (the eggs we usually buy are available - but $9 a dozen! The store eggs from the industrial chicken houses are $4 - they are usually like $2).

 

[24Roses]

Iowa news today: 4 deaths, 96 new COVID-19 cases reported in Iowa Wednesday
DES MOINES, Iowa —

Gov. Kim Reynolds on Wednesday relayed new COVID-19 statistics from the Iowa Department of Public Health.

Reynolds said there were four deaths and 96 new cases in the state. That brings the total to 53 deaths and 1,995 cases.

Also, this website has been redesigned to tell alot more details by clicking on the county and the areas above the map. Now telling about how many have been tested in each county, how many are hospialized in each region, and demographics, etc. along with long term care outbreaks. https://idph.iowa.gov/Emerging-Health-Issues/Novel-Coronavirus
Reynolds seeks federal help at food plant outbreaks
Iowa DHS providing domestic and child abuse outreach
Suspects arrested; facing COVID-19-related charges in Bever Park shooting I guess LE is serious about implemnenting the no groups larger than 10 order by the governor!

 

[cass523]

As of April 15, there were 71,030 reported cases in the state, including 262 additional cases disclosed Wednesday.

New Jersey has completed a total of 131,976 tests with 44.8% of the tests coming back positive as of Wednesday.

Long-term care facilities continue to be a concern across the state. There are 6,815 reported COVID-19 cases at 358 long-term care facilities across the state, state Health Commissioner Judith Persichilli said Wednesday.

There have been 3,156 deaths related to coronavirus in New Jersey. Officials reported 351 new deaths Wednesday.

Of the statewide deaths, 58% were male and 41.9% were female. Less than one percent were under 30 years of age, while 45.5% were over the age of 80.

The racial breakdown of those who have died in New Jersey is: 51.7% white, 21.9% black, 15.5% were Hispanic, 5.7% Asian and 5.2% are classified as other, Persichilli said.

NJ coronavirus update: 3,156 deaths reported as cases rise to 71,030

 

[Sundog]

Well, here's what I am thinking. It's not spoken about directly in most of the planning.

People in the US aged 50 or over at the ones at high risk. Almost everyone else is not at risk, so much. So it will be up to those of us who are older and/or at medical risk just to protect ourselves.

This could lead to herd immunity. The at risk would still be at risk, though, even with some herd immunity established. Why don't they just say that workers who are 50-67 are the ones who are going to be screwed by this in one way or another? They can't lower the age of retirement (although they should) for many reasons.

Hey - think of the benefits! We lower life expectancy, we don't have to pay as much in MediCare or Social Security, the people who wanted to lower those benefits anyway will be happy! Everybody wins! And the Dead don't care or vote, right??!?

Is that what we've become? I do see this attitude among younger people, perhaps it's a majority view.

I think it would be a good idea for those of us who are over 60 and/or have a medical risk factor to start to make plans for how we will deal with the re-opening of the economy. Just about every state is working on the development of plans, and it could come soon. Even Ohio's governor, Mike DeWine, said today that every person will have to think about what risk they want to take and how to handle the reopening when it comes - not if it comes - but when it comes. Note that I am paraphrasing as I don't have the script yet of DeWine's briefing today. But he has been pretty transparent and forthcoming up to now, and he said that this COVID-19 virus is going to be with us for a long time, and that we will have to individually find ways to deal with it. They will recommend face masks and 6 feet distancing, and hand-washing, etc., but it is clear from the interview that he gave today that some of us will be more at risk than others. And yet the reopening will happen, nonetheless. I think the governor will try to reopen society in a way that mitigates against the worst possible outcomes, if he can, but it is still going to be up to each individual to figure out how to deal with this. I wonder if we should all be having some kind of discussion about this. Not all of us can stay home indefinitely if our work places reopen. Some of us can't afford to retire right now, even though we might be at the age where theoretically that would be possible. I have a feeling that our university is going to reopen some time in June, although it has not been announced yet. I think older employees (both faculty and staff) will have tough choices to make. Just my thoughts on this.

 

[SA55]

Laundry (two months later)

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says COVID-19 can live on cardboard for 24 hours and plastic or metal surfaces for 72 hours, but data has yet to show exactly how that could translate to fabric and linens.

Dr. Todd Ellerin, an infectious disease expert at South Shore Health, told ABC News "the drying part is important as well."

Don't share towels with people if you can avoid it

New Guidelines for Laundromats
Doing Laundry at Home and Someone is Sick
Other Tips and Takeaways

Expert tips for doing laundry to avoid germs amid coronavirus

oh my - I never thought of all those that depend on laundromats, adding another blessing to my own list. I would be terrified to go out to a laundromat right now

 

[10ofRods]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...th-phased-reopening/5e9688d288e0fa101a763033/

BBM
The framework lays out criteria that should be in place before a region can responsibly ease guidelines related to public gatherings: a “genuinely low” number of cases; a “well functioning” monitoring system capable of “promptly detecting” spikes of infections; a public health system able to react robustly to new cases and local health systems that have enough inpatient beds to rapidly scale up in the event of a surge in cases.

This would seem to necessitate ramping up testing and production of personal protective equipment at levels not currently being done."
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Reading the 10-page executive summary of the proposed public health response offers a window into the discussions happening inside the government about how to practically and responsibly ease toward reopening. For example, the document says the first priority should be reopening places where children are cared for – including K-12 schools, day cares and summer camps – so parents can return to work."
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So many YIKES here. The lack of a strong supply of the needed drugs (while the nation is hitting a plateau - how sad it would be if the people in the second half of this die in greater numbers, due to no drugs).

The kids in the schools will be silent carriers for some time to come. Being a school bus driver (most of ours are older people) should earn people hazard pay. Having many substitutes and temp workers will mean rapid training (as all the teachers will get it and get sick, no matter what anyone does with masks I imagine).

It's estimated we'd need about 33,000 newly trained contact tracers to make this doable at all. And of course, antibody and virus testing kits (more need for antibody tests if we're really reopening schools).

They could, for example, get a small pool from the 15-20% of teachers who will probably have the antibodies. Have huge classes (they may have to use community centers and school cafeterias) and show the kids educational videos and let them run around outside/do athletics more. A few smaller classes could meet with a teacher who already had it, while the rest of the kids were warehoused in this way.

People will be livid, but maybe the point will be gotten across? We weren't ready, we're not ready. We need to learn to manufacture those drugs needed here in the US, obviously.

With antibody testing, though, as soon as my grandkids get it and form antibodies (if they haven't already), I get to see both of them again!

 

[BHughes]

Recipients of Coronavirus Stimulus Checks Include the Recently Deceased

Recipients of Coronavirus Stimulus Checks Include the Recently Deceased

 

[10ofRods]

I don't regret it; especially considering that this was the doofus (#sorrynotsorry) telling us not to wear masks.

I've said from the beginning, telling laypeople on the street not to wear masks has nothing to do with whether or not they would benefit from the masks; it has to do with the WHO not wanting the medical professionals to run out of masks.

Which is fine and dandy, until the state/country/principality in question decides they're going to make the wearing of masks by every layperson on the street mandatory, and people can no longer find masks, or worse, have already sickened; specifically because they believed this guidance.

I totally get what you're saying and felt exactly the same way for many hours. Then I calmed down, especially after reading what Bill Gates said. WHO is an untrustworthy source of overall information, but it's the only agency trying to deal with this in Africa, parts of the Pacific and some areas in South America and Asia.

But I do really understand why the president reacted as he did - but it may be (like mine) rather knee jerk and unfortunately, a hard decision to undo for him to undo. I guess we'll see new organizations formed and stepping up. Perhaps WHO has run its course and this critical failure in regard to CoVid will be its end.

 

[NuttMegg]

Recipients of Coronavirus Stimulus Checks Include the Recently Deceased

Recipients of Coronavirus Stimulus Checks Include the Recently Deceased

Wow, and here I am still alive and no check.

 

[cody22]

That’s great! Atleast you don’t have to worry about getting within 6 feet of a fish...

One of these days you’ll get one Cody.

LOL !.............moo

 

[squareandrabbet]

oh my - I never thought of all those that depend on laundromats, adding another blessing to my own list. I would be terrified to go out to a laundromat right now

The staff of my building complex just recently sent around an email saying that people had been asking to have hot water added to even the cold cycles; or something similar.

I can't remember what tactful excuse they gave; but I forgive them credit for not telling said people what they probably wanted to say. Currently we only have to leave empty washer/dryers between different households; and there is a sink if one wants to bring some hand soap and wash up before leaving (or, one presumes, do a hand-washed garment). To be frank, I'm currently a bit more worried that some of the washers are starting to show obvious black mold in the detergent containers , and might even take a scrubbrush myself and spend $1.50 afterwards on an empty cycle, just to flush it out.

 

[Tony1902]

@cody22
Please tell me you are not doing Gulf fishing!! Vibrio in water, flesh eating bacteria. It’s also in some bayous & creeks in South. Scary.. Dr Tony, whom is used to call DH—until he exposed me to Jesus knows what by going to a crawfish boil—once had a patient who was in Gulf near Lake Charles & got a puncture from a shrimp & he washed his hand in water.. I don’t want to say more. Warm waters can harbor death.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Zoo says coronavirus may force it to feed animals to each other

 

[Tillicum]

Recipients of Coronavirus Stimulus Checks Include the Recently Deceased

Recipients of Coronavirus Stimulus Checks Include the Recently Deceased

I'm also wondering how accurate the census will be. Those who filled them out online early, how many are deceased now?

 

[tresir2012]

Yes, and for good reasons. Would you drink raw milk? I'm truly curious (not just you, Tresir, but you are a smart person - surely you would not?)

I was a farmers daughter and drank milk unpasteurized from the cows still warm and creamy. Until we stopped having a milking herd in the sixties.. It never hurt me and I still have all my own teeth. The milk went to the milk marketing board who bought it and pasteurized it for sale to the GP. To this day I love milk and milk products but drink pasteurized now. People eat cheese so I don't see the difference really. I hate to see the waste when there are kids who need it.

 

[NuttMegg]

Coronavirus Live Updates: Business Executives Call for More Testing; Trump’s W.H.O. Attack Is Condemned
"But another issue of great concern to the executives on the call, the person said, was the need to address the liability companies could face if employees were to get sick after returning to work. Workers who felt that they were brought back too soon or were not placed in an adequately safe environment could sue en masse. Details of the call were first reported by The Wall Street Journal."
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