Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #48

[Deleted member 39678]

Because they know how to plan, are organized, and hold themselves to high standards, I'm guessing. Sorry if this is a paywall from NYT, but also see links from Finnish news indicating that they have a stockpile coordinator, and are actually in a position to turn away low-quality product from China that they believe led to healthcare workers getting infected (which led to the resignation of "stockpile boss" who did the purchasing.)

Finland, ‘Prepper Nation of the Nordics,’ Isn’t Worried About Masks
Coronavirus latest: 90 deaths, nearly 3,700 infections and a scramble for PPE

They must be doing something right.

The links you supplied are a bit confusing. The first one talks about how Finland stockpiled medical supplies and is in good shape.

The second link talks about the difficulties Finland is having getting PPE's.

 

[Reasonable & Just]

They must be doing something right.

The links you supplied are a bit confusing. The first one talks about how Finland stockpiled medical supplies and is in good shape.

The second link talks about the difficulties Finland is having getting PPE's.

Yes. Looks like they had lots to begin with, but like everyone else, needed to get more as time passes and we learn more about this virus. That may be why they were in the position to reject defective masks from China and allow a guy to resign over it. JMO.

 

[Lilibet]

Annie and Lola Lennox! Really great!

 

[firebird]

Coronavirus death toll estimate DROPS again: Top COVID-19 model shows predicted US fatalities have fallen by 12% from 68,841 to 60,308 - just three weeks after it projected that 84,000 would die

• The University of Washington's model projected on Friday that the US death toll will reach 60,308 by August 4
• This marks a 12 percent decline from 68,841 deaths forecast earlier in the week

The model also projected that the US reached its peak death rate of 2,481 on April 15, and peak hospitalizations on April 14.

Experts say death toll will be 12 PERCENT lower than expected as state lockdowns slow spread | Daily Mail Online

 

[Reasonable & Just]

Coronavirus death toll estimate DROPS again: Top COVID-19 model shows predicted US fatalities have fallen by 12% from 68,841 to 60,308 - just three weeks after it projected that 84,000 would die

• The University of Washington's model projected on Friday that the US death toll will reach 60,308 by August 4
• This marks a 12 percent decline from 68,841 deaths forecast earlier in the week

The model also projected that the US reached its peak death rate of 2,481 on April 15, and peak hospitalizations on April 14.

Experts say death toll will be 12 PERCENT lower than expected as state lockdowns slow spread | Daily Mail Online

Fantastic if accurate!!!

 

[BUF]

Yeah. We all need to mind ourselves, unless something egregious is happening. House divided and all that. The title would make me click on it in outrage. But this is what it says in the article (which is quoting his Tweet), so it doesn't sound like he's asking me to personally narc on you...although the "anything" would definitely encourage cranks.

"When you see a crowd, when you see a line that’s not distanced, when you see a supermarket that’s too crowded -- anything -- you can report it right away so we can get help there to fix the problem.”

This sounds more like getting help to get store managers to do a better job, or to have police do some crowd control in public spaces that are getting to be too much. JMO.

Thanks for posting this. It is amazing how things sound so much different when taken out of context.

 

[Reasonable & Just]

Annie and Lola Lennox! Really great!

I'm sure they are great, but right now I'm missing Mr. Al Green and Annie from their heavenly 80's remake of "Put a Little Love in Your Heart". Needed right now by all, I think, but especially by me

 

[tresir2012]

Japan doctors warn health system may 'break down'

Doctors in Japan have warned that the country's medical system could collapse amid a wave of new coronavirus cases.

Emergency rooms have been unable to treat some patients with serious health conditions due to the extra burden caused by the virus, officials say.

One ambulance carrying a patient with coronavirus symptoms was turned away by 80 hospitals before he could be seen.

Japan, which initially appeared to have the virus under control, passed 10,000 confirmed cases on Saturday.

More than 200 people have now died with Covid-19 and the capital Tokyo remains the worst-affected area.

• Live updates from around the world
• Lessons from Hokkaido's second wave of infections

Groups of doctors at GP surgeries in the city are assisting hospitals with the testing of potential coronavirus patients in order to ease some of the pressure on the health system, officials say.

"This is to prevent the medical system from crumbling," Konoshin Tamura, the deputy head of an association of GPs, told Reuters news agency.

"Everyone needs to extend a helping hand. Otherwise, hospitals would break down," he added.

Japan's virus response criticised
Analysis by Michael Bristow, BBC World Service Asia editor

This is a stark warning.

Two medical associations said the coronavirus outbreak was reducing the ability of Japan's hospitals to treat other, serious, medical emergencies.

Hospitals are already turning away patients, and all this while the number of confirmed cases of Covid-19 remains relatively low compared with other countries.

Doctors have complained of a lack of protective equipment, which suggests Japan has not prepared well for the virus. This is despite the fact it was the second country outside China to record an infection, way back in January.

Meanwhile, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has been criticised for not introducing restrictions to deal with the outbreak sooner for fear they could harm the economy.

His government has argued with the governor of Tokyo, who wanted tougher measures introduced more quickly.

Only on Thursday did Mr Abe extend a state of emergency to the whole country.

 

[CSIDreamer]

I need to vent this here.

It really bothers me how every community has a certain "popular" "golden" family. And I'm not even sure how my town's golden family got that award.

Tonight they are at someone's house, cookout. No masks, collapsible chairs in a circle but "social distancing". No. They are not. Not even close.

But "you're all such a great family!". Our society is a bit off. Jmo

End rant. Thank you.

 

[Trino]

Help me to understand Minnesota protests. Our state's order is no different than most other states.

On Friday Minnesota reported one of the largest single day increases in COVID-19, with more than 150 new cases. Statewide, more than 2,000 people have been infected and at least 111 have died. This was the same day as the Liberate Minnesota protests.

Here's what the organizer stated: "And we want that [stay-at-home restriction] to end now. We don't want a slow trickle into this. We are perfectly capable of opening our own businesses and running those again and being safe in doing that."

Things are NOT going to open BOOM. I don't even think most businesses would open without some sort of testing/restrictions. Do the protestors think life will just be back to normal pre-coronavirus?

 

[CSIDreamer]

Help me to understand Minnesota protests. Our state's order is no different than most other states.

On Friday Minnesota reported one of the largest single day increases in COVID-19, with more than 150 new cases. Statewide, more than 2,000 people have been infected and at least 111 have died. This was the same day as the Liberate Minnesota protests.

Here's what the organizer stated: "And we want that [stay-at-home restriction] to end now. We don't want a slow trickle into this. We are perfectly capable of opening our own businesses and running those again and being safe in doing that."

Things are NOT going to open BOOM. I don't even think most businesses would open without some sort of testing/restrictions. Do the protestors think life will just be back to normal pre-coronavirus?

Can you link your restrictions?

 

[Reasonable & Just]

Help me to understand Minnesota protests. Our state's order is no different than most other states.

On Friday Minnesota reported one of the largest single day increases in COVID-19, with more than 150 new cases. Statewide, more than 2,000 people have been infected and at least 111 have died. This was the same day as the Liberate Minnesota protests.

Here's what the organizer stated: "And we want that [stay-at-home restriction] to end now. We don't want a slow trickle into this. We are perfectly capable of opening our own businesses and running those again and being safe in doing that."

Things are NOT going to open BOOM. I don't even think most businesses would open without some sort of testing/restrictions. Do the protestors think life will just be back to normal pre-coronavirus?

Not specific to MN, but I think it's incredibly important for leaders to be transparent about why they are doing things, and to show real compassion and to keep on both chambers of Congress to GET MOVING on taking care of the people. While I'm not sure about the motives of some protestors, and who is backing them, it is undeniably important to validate people's very real fears and anger, and to give them a safety net while we wait it out. Too many are suffering.

ETA - and, there is nothing wrong with walking back a restriction and saying you were wrong if you overreached or could have accomplished things differently. Yes, your detractors will say you were weak, but they would say it anyway.

 

[FrostOwl]

I'm more interested in learning why Finland has such a low infection number compared to other Nordic countries.

- An almost total lockdown of the Uusimaa region around Helsinki, where most cases have been registered. Government lifts Uusimaa lockdown ahead of schedule | News Now Finland Coronavirus prevention in Finland - A state of emergency in Finland
- As there are a disproportionate number of cases among minority groups in many countries, and Finland doesn't have as large minority groups as other countries.
Immigration to Finland - Wikipedia
- Less correct reporting of those who have died outside hospitals. See article below.

There is a risk that the number of cases and deaths in Finland will be similar to that of Sweden when the second wave hits, according to this doctor in infectious diseases in Finland: Infektionsöverläkare till Yle: Risk för en andra våg – att stänga skolor har haft minst effekt

 

[Lilibet]

Jennifer Hudson and friends singing Hallelujah. Gorgeous!

 

[margarita25]

I think this is the live link to the main concert:

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[10ofRods]

How the subways seeded New York's CV19 epidemic:

http://web.mit.edu/jeffrey/harris/HarrisJE_WP2_COVID19_NYC_13-Apr-2020.pdf

 

[Lilibet]

Concert starts! Lady Gaga “Smile.”

Here's everything we know about Lady Gaga's 'One World: Together at Home' concert

We are getting it on MSNBC and Axs TV.

STEVIE WONDER!!!

 

[jjenny]

Walgreens wouldn't deliver my mom's prescription unless she used a smart phone app. She doesn't have a smart phone.

I picked it up for her.

I don't think mine delivered before. If they did I didn't know. But I called and asked and turns out they do now. So I got my meds delivered and dropped at my door. They didn't ask to use any apps, but I had to call and request delivery.

 

[10ofRods]

In relation to Canada, Trump announced today that the USA international border with Canada could open as soon as next month.

Canada said that is not happening. I suspect that many things will happen in Canada before the country will open the border to foreigners.

Ha. I wonder if he realizes that Canada has to consent?

Canada is in a really good position to get control over this and perhaps be able to avoid any sort of real epidemic within its borders. It may take a while to re-establish certain trade patterns, but Canada certainly can choose specific partners (even specific states within the US) for trade. For example, Canada could work with Washington, who has similar goals and ideas about CV19 as Canada does.

 

[CSIDreamer]

How the subways seeded New York's CV19 epidemic:

http://web.mit.edu/jeffrey/harris/HarrisJE_WP2_COVID19_NYC_13-Apr-2020.pdf

I wonder if UV lights would help?