Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #48

[LadyL]

How is that different to sitting on a bus or tube to get to work? It is up to everyone to wash their hands and/or wear gloves/mask to prevent transference.

the difference is essential workers have to get to work
parks are not essential

 

[LadyL]

Tough restrictions in Australia remain for another month.
Here, in my state Victoria, Australia there is ONE NEW Corona case in the last 24 hours.
However, we are still on alert, in case there is an outbreak nearby.

Our lockdown has been most effective, and I hope, in other Countries throughout the world, you have pleasing results happening soon.

I'm in it for the long haul
whatever it takes to save lives

 

[I'm Just Here]

the virus could transfer from person to person via the bench
and contact tracing would be impossible

I read her post thinking she meant that parks are closed and can't hang out in them? Running or walking through is ok although if she wanted to chill on a bench it may look like she is not exercising. Or was she meaning germs?

 

[tresir2012]

the difference is essential workers have to get to work
parks are not essential

Then they should close the parks. Which they have not done. This article is similar in that people are worrying about taking stuff off shop shelves and then changing their mind about it and feeling guilty about putting it back. It's getting ridiculous now IMO especially if people are disinfecting their groceries anyway and washing their hands like they should be doing. That stops the virus right there and then.

Afraid to put things back on the shelf

 

[katydid23]

Tough restrictions in Australia remain for another month.
Here, in my state Victoria, Australia there is ONE NEW Corona case in the last 24 hours.
However, we are still on alert, in case there is an outbreak nearby.

Our lockdown has been most effective, and I hope, in other Countries throughout the world, you have pleasing results happening soon.

But what happens when it is lifted? Is the virus going to be gone by then? Or is it possibly dormant and still being carried by people who have been locked down?

 

[Deleted member 39678]

That's quite long winded! I like the WHO guidelines better.

• Transmission is controlled;
• Health system capacities are in place to test, isolate, and treat every case and trace every contact;
• Outbreak risks are minimized in special settings like health facilities and nursing homes;
• Preventive measures are in place in workplaces, schools, and other essential places;
• importation risks can be managed;
• Communities are fully educated, engaged and empowered to adjust to the new norm.

'The way down is much slower than the way up': WHO announces 6 criteria countries need to meet before lifting lockdown restrictions

There no details on how to reach these goals.

 

[katydid23]

DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THE PREVIOUS POSTS ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT'S NEED FOR PEOPL WHO CAN DO CODING FROM OLD DAYS---they reportedly needed people who could help with old government computers to help with the Unemployment ins. and all that?

I need some more info on that for a friend who really needs help right now.

 

[PommyMommy]

Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus on Twitter
Today we hosted our weekly briefing on #COVID19 for Member States. I shared with them the alarming increase in cases and deaths since last week. Almost 2 million people have now been infected around the world and over 123,000 have died.
WHO Director-General's opening remarks at the Mission briefing on COVID-19 - 16 April 2020
11:23 AM - 16 Apr 2020

Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus on Twitter
I used the opportunity to reiterate @WHO's position that all sectors affected by #COVID19, incl. food markets, need to ensure strong regulatory systems, high standards of cleanliness, hygiene & safety once they are in a position to gradually resume normal activities.
11:23 AM - 16 Apr 2020

Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus on Twitter
I thank all countries for expressing their continued support to our work & for their trust. We will continue to be led by science, find solutions to save lives & build global solidarity. I reassured them that @WHO will continue to give this fight our spirit & soul! #COVID19
11:23 AM - 16 Apr 2020

Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus on Twitter

11:23 AM - 16 Apr 2020

Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus on Twitter (Video)
Some countries are now considering lifting social and economic restrictions. This is something we all want - but it must be done extremely carefully. The updated @WHO strategy outlines six factors for countries as they consider lifting restrictions.
11:23 AM - 16 Apr 2020

Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus on Twitter
Before lifting restrictions, @WHO calls on countries to ensure (1): -#COVID19 transmission is controlled -health system capacities are in place to detect, test, isolate & treat every case & trace every contact -outbreak risks are minimized in special settings
2:55 PM - 14 Apr 2020

Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus on Twitter
Before lifting restrictions, @WHO calls on countries to ensure (2): -#COVID19 preventive measures are in place in essential places people go to (workplaces, schools) -importation risks can be managed -communities are fully educated &engaged to adjust to the “new norm”.
2:55 PM - 14 Apr 2020

Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus on Twitter
Very good explainer on why contact tracing is essential to stop the #coronavirus from spreading. Well worth a read! Together!
How Contact Tracing Works And How It Can Help Reopen The Country
1:34 PM - 16 Apr 2020

Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus on Twitter
Great explanation by Chancellor Merkel on how a relatively small increase in #COVID19 infection can overwhelm even a strong health system. I congratulate her on strong leadership & dedication to keep her nation & the world safe from #COVID19.
Benjamin Alvarez on Twitter (Video)
1:24 PM - 16 Apr 2020

Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus on Twitter
Huge thanks to

Tánaiste @simoncoveney and the people of #Ireland for your continuous support to @WHO, and for your increased contribution for 2020 to €9.5 million. Together, against #COVID19! Together, for a healthier, safer world!
Simon Coveney on Twitter
9:49 AM - 16 Apr 2020

Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus on Twitter
My deepest gratitude to @KingSalman and the people of #SaudiArabia for their generosity in the global #COVID19 response and additional contribution of USD 500M. We hope other @g20org countries will follow your lead. Together!
G20 Saudi Arabia on Twitter
4:31 PM - 16 Apr 2020

Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus on Twitter
Ahead of the WHO-@GlblCtzn One world: #TogetherAtHome event, I am pleased to announce that @ladygaga and @Hughcevans will be joining our media briefing tomorrow at 6:30 PM CET. You can follow it live @WHO. Together, against #COVID19! Together, for a healthier, safer world!
5:57 PM - 16 Apr 2020

World Health Organization (WHO) on Twitter
Working from home means people are sitting longer. It is important for your health to get up often, for at least 3 minutes, to stretch your muscles. What are you doing to be #HealthyAtHome ? Join our challenge and share your video!

4:21 AM - 16 Apr 2020

World Health Organization (WHO) on Twitter
SAVE THE DATE: 18 APRIL 2020 One World: #TogetherAtHome is a historic, global broadcast to support the fight against #COVID19. Watch here @WHO
WHO and Global Citizen announce: 'One World: Together at home' Global Special to support healthcare workers in the fight against the COVID-19 pandemic

8:06 PM - 16 Apr 2020

 

[LadyL]

I read her post thinking she meant that parks are closed and can't hang out in them? Running or walking through is ok although if she wanted to chill on a bench it may look like she is not exercising. Or was she meaning germs?

depends where you are
some places they are closed completely
some you can walk/run through

 

[10ofRods]

if that's what it takes to not die and for my loved ones to stay alive
um, yeah, I'm all in

There's a medium path. People should be allowed to sit one on a bench. Everyone should know the basics of using personal protection methods. We should not reorganize in a way that is overly (and unreasonably) restrictive.

I have loved ones too, but I also want them to have a life and an economy.

 

[PommyMommy]

DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THE PREVIOUS POSTS ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT'S NEED FOR PEOPL WHO CAN DO CODING FROM OLD DAYS---they reportedly needed people who could help with old government computers to help with the Unemployment ins. and all that?

I need some more info on that for a friend who really needs help right now.

I found this.

Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #45

 

[LadyL]

There's a medium path. People should be allowed to sit one on a bench. Everyone should know the basics of using personal protection methods. We should not reorganize in a way that is overly (and unreasonably) restrictive.

I have loved ones too, but I also want them to have a life and an economy.

if all it takes to save a life is to not sit on a bench for a while longer, why would anyone have a problem with that?

I don't find that unreasonable at all

 

[pocketaccent]

DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THE PREVIOUS POSTS ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT'S NEED FOR PEOPL WHO CAN DO CODING FROM OLD DAYS---they reportedly needed people who could help with old government computers to help with the Unemployment ins. and all that?

I need some more info on that for a friend who really needs help right now.

(Start here?)

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IBM Launches New COBOL Training Initiative, as Elderly Programmers Answer the Call for Help - ExtremeTech

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IBM has created three new initiatives to train new COBOL programmers or help old ones get back in the swing of things. There’s a new “Calling all COBOL Programmers” forum, intended to help new coders connect with veterans with significant experience. There’s a new “COBOL Technical Forum,” where active and experienced COBOL engineers are available to provide free advice and expertise. Finally, the company is building a brand-new open-source COBOL training resource. This curriculum was created in partnership with an unnamed institute of higher education and will be available next week at no charge to anyone.

 

[MajorHoople]

Here's some interesting info that I pulled from Worldmeters and Wikipedia:

California is our most populous state. They have a per capita death rate from Covid-19 of 24 per 1 million people.

Texas is our second most populous state. They have a per capita death rate from Covid-19 of 14 per 1 million people.

Florida is our third most populous state. They have a per capita death rate from Covid-19 of 31 per 1 million people.

New York is our fourth most populous state. They have a per capita death rate from Covid-19 of 821 per 1 million people.

New Jersey is our eleventh most populous state. They have a per capita death rate from Covid-19 of 396 per 1 million people.

These numbers make me wonder what the heck is going on in New York and New Jersey?

 

[LadyL]

Here's some interesting info that I pulled from Worldmeters and Wikipedia:

California is our most populous state. They have a per capita death rate from Covid-19 of 24 per 1 million people.

Texas is our second most populous state. They have a per capita death rate from Covid-19 of 14 per 1 million people.

Florida is our third most populous state. They have a per capita death rate from Covid-19 of 31 per 1 million people.

New York is our fourth most populous state. They have a per capita death rate from Covid-19 of 821 per 1 million people.

New Jersey is our eleventh most populous state. They have a per capita death rate from Covid-19 of 396 per 1 million people.

These numbers make me wonder what the heck is going on in New York and New Jersey?

people are sitting on benches there

 

[PommyMommy]

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
Illinois has become the sixth state to reach 1,000 coronavirus deaths, following New York, New Jersey, Michigan, Louisiana and Massachusetts.
4:50 PM - 16 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
.@NYGovCuomo: "When is it over? When is it finally over? It's over when you have a vaccine and that's 12 months to 18 months."
5:05 PM - 16 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
CNN: 32,000 people in the United States have died from coronavirus.
6:07 PM - 16 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
Trump says "it's looking like we will come far under" the 100,000 to 240,000 projected coronavirus death toll. The current coronavirus death toll is 32,000.
6:16 PM - 16 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
TRUMP: "Based on the latest data, our team of experts now agrees that we can begin the next front in our war, which we are calling opening up America again."
6:17 PM - 16 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
PENCE: "These new guidelines for opening up America again can be implemented on a statewide basis or on a county-by-county basis."
6:31 PM - 16 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
FAUCI: "You don't get to phase one until you get through the gating... if you get no rebound and satisfy the gating yet a second time, then you go to phase two. If you have no rebound and you satisfy the gating criteria for a third time, then you go into phase three."
6:47 PM - 16 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
FAUCI: "There may be some setbacks. Let's face it. This is uncharted water. There may be some setbacks that we may have to pull back a little and then go forward."
6:49 PM - 16 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
TRUMP: "When the virus is gone, we're going to have packed arenas."
6:52 PM - 16 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
TRUMP: "It's going to be up to the governors. I think you're going to see quite a few states starting to open and I call it a beautiful puzzle. You have 50 pieces, all very different, but when it's all done, it's a mosaic. When it's all done, it will be a very beautiful picture."
7:01 PM - 16 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
FAUCI: "We're going to have [antibody tests and diagnostic tests] much, much better in the next weeks and months. And by the time we get into the fall, I think we're going to be in pretty good shape."
7:06 PM - 16 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
CDC Director: "The major thrust of how we're going to control and make sure that we continue to keep this nation open is early case recognition, isolation and contact tracing. That's the fundamentals of public health. That's what we're going to do."
7:07 PM - 16 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
TRUMP: "I think we're going very quickly now. I think we're going to have a lot of states open relatively soon. We're beating the date. I set a date of May 1. And, you know, here we are."
7:13 PM - 16 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
Dr. Birx on whether US has enough contact tracing infrastructure: "The criteria the federal government recommended are fairly strict, and that's to give states really the time to really set up exactly how they're going to contact trace with the CDC in the background supporting."
8:34 PM - 16 Apr 2020

 

[Deleted member 39678]

if all it takes to save a life is to not sit on a bench for a while longer, why would anyone have a problem with that?

I don't find that unreasonable at all

Maybe a sign on the bench saying to use at your own risk on getting the covid-19 would work.

That way only people willing to take that risk would sit on it. JMO

 

[10ofRods]

the virus could transfer from person to person via the bench
and contact tracing would be impossible

Highly unlikely. More likely to get it by trailing along behind where someone else is breathing. But we still have to walk or other issues crop up.

And contact tracing would not be impossible everywhere. Cameras exist in many parks already.

But seriously, why can't people do what we've done in the schools since mid-January? Bring your wipes everywhere. Use them. Wear a mask if you think risk is up. Etc.

Getting this from a bench is low risk - but don't sit on one if you are that worried. All the rest of us going back to work is more worrisome - but we must. There are thousands of students waiting to matriculate into nursing or surgery or emergency medicine - and we have to go back to work.

We'll have to use new routines and have precautions. We cannot simply shut everything down except ER treatment for people with CV+. In fact, that phase has to end soon and people with detached retinas or needing cataract surgery need to be able to get those procedures.

I think we'll get to a moderate set of policies - and everyone has to sacrifice. If you don't want to sit on a park bench, fine. All of your human contacts should be traced anyway, and chances are - one of them will be positive. I see those as positives.

 

[jjenny]

Here's some interesting info that I pulled from Worldmeters and Wikipedia:

California is our most populous state. They have a per capita death rate from Covid-19 of 24 per 1 million people.

Texas is our second most populous state. They have a per capita death rate from Covid-19 of 14 per 1 million people.

Florida is our third most populous state. They have a per capita death rate from Covid-19 of 31 per 1 million people.

New York is our fourth most populous state. They have a per capita death rate from Covid-19 of 821 per 1 million people.

New Jersey is our eleventh most populous state. They have a per capita death rate from Covid-19 of 396 per 1 million people.

These numbers make me wonder what the heck is going on in New York and New Jersey?

Population density is high in New York. They rely on public transpiration a lot. So it spread there like wild fire.

 

[SouthAussie]

But what happens when it is lifted? Is the virus going to be gone by then? Or is it possibly dormant and still being carried by people who have been locked down?

I think the Aussie plan is going to be that certain segments are re-opened, then we wait for results - if any - react if we should (perhaps close back down again) or open further segments if there are no/few bad results.

Schools will be open (in a non-mandatory manner) after the current Easter break. Schools are providing an online curriculum, as well, for home schooling.

It will likely turn out to be whatever works best for the majority. imo

Our PM has expressed that things will happen at different times in different states, as there are quite radical differences in infection rates from state to state. It seems - to me - that our areas that have had the most international exposure (flights/visitors) are infected the most.

However, at the moment things are looking fairly positive for Australia and New Zealand, and NZ is considering opening its borders to Aussie commerce.