Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #48

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I dispute their reading of the graph. None of those lines are curving downwards. What are they looking at? The lines might be bending but they're definitely not 'curving downwards' IMO.

I'm just going to use BC as an example ... If you look at the spike between 0 to 15 days at the bottom of the graph and compare that to the next 15 to 30 days at the bottom of the graph, there is a flattening of the increase in number of cases within those 2 different 2 week periods. IOW, BC went from 0 to just slightly over 1000 in the first 15 days (66 new cases per day), and in the next 15 days those figures slowed to approx 500 (33 new cases per day) to bring it to its current total of 1500.
 
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How sad is this though? It's Friday night and the world is sitting around getting educated on nasal swabs.

Thanks Tillicum, I needed that laugh. We've come a long way baby?
 
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I hadn't either but DeWine does.
That's because there is a more dorm-like living situation in some of the prisons. Except the walls to your "room" are like short partitions. Maybe he was talking about one of these.
 
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"Last week the city was burying its unclaimed and anonymous dead at a rate of almost five times more than usual on Hart Island, which has been used as a potter's field since the 19th century....

A few minutes after he launched a small drone to survey what was happening on Hart Island, Steinmetz said that a group of plainclothes NYPD officers emerged from an unmarked van, and asked him to bring the drone back..."


NYPD Seizes Drone Of Photojournalist Documenting Mass Burials On Hart Island
 
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Just make certain you don't touch your face until you can wash your hands or use sanitizer and you're good.

it can live on fabric and be transferred even after washing hands
 
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"Last week the city was burying its unclaimed and anonymous dead at a rate of almost five times more than usual on Hart Island, which has been used as a potter's field since the 19th century....

A few minutes after he launched a small drone to survey what was happening on Hart Island, Steinmetz said that a group of plainclothes NYPD officers emerged from an unmarked van, and asked him to bring the drone back..."


NYPD Seizes Drone Of Photojournalist Documenting Mass Burials On Hart Island

spooky
 
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Thankfully Fauci was there. Now he I can understand and speaks to this virus.
He sure has that uncommon knack to simplify scientific topics. I really respect that, it is so hard to find in that community. Birx unfortunately does not, IMO, have that gift. Not today, but often she sounds evasive thru the way she talks around the question from a reporter without answering. I probably wouldn't notice if Fauci weren't so exquisitely good at "translating". What a mind, what a gift.
 
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Yes, I understand. I have college kids right now.

We have a difference of opinion, which is fine. (Other solutions exist besides instantly going to video online classes.....but nevermind. My point isn't to argue.)

jmo

Yes, there are other solutions. But as a current prof and a prior administrator in the California system, I can say that would have taken planning. About 6 years ago, local planning efforts got complacent, to say the least. People like me were called worry-warts or people would stare at me like I had two heads if I mentioned disease issues. School shootings. That became the theme. All the planning went over to police. We've got great plans in place for the one afternoon or morning where a shooter comes on campus.

We had no plans for viruses and frankly, faculty truly were not cooperative in planning. People like me (who both teach and have worked as administrators) are not common and while faculty are more trusting of people like me, they are suspicious of anyone in administration. For good reasons, btw.

Anyway, some of us have always employed some distance techniques (testing online is awesome, if the course material warrants it). Video can be outstanding - the best lecturers from around the world. This takes work and curation to accomplish. BUT...the really engaged students, the ones whose own voices need to be heard in the classroom - those students really don't get what they should. Small classes, intense work, intense discussions and well-written papers.

If this virus means we'll get smaller real world classes, that's great But so far, I don't think that's what is going to happen (have to hire more real people - real people are expensive).

Nope, it's gonna be partly online or all online going forward. The Zoom we're using is not the public Zoom - and we go through two layers of authentication and IP address validation before we teach, BUT, well, I am certainly one prof who has to get used to it. We need a thread for "How to handle fully online interaction in the era of Covid and other viruses." (Just kidding).

There are universities (like Oxford) who have entire courses structured around 1 student who does the reading and homework, and meets once every two weeks (alone) with the prof for deeper dialogue and oral questioning as to understanding. This works exceedingly well. Nothing like personal responsibility for the undergrads.

Maybe some of us will do something like that? I would be told by my current administration that it is not "good for all" but could be an option. It's always harder to teach a class 5 different ways. In fact, I'm pretty much over that. So unless administration can see its way clear to allowing teachers to navigate this as they will, there won't be much cooperation

I'm hearing some horrific things about people who have refused to use a computer all their lives...now teaching online. I can share details if any of you are interested.
 
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You must not be in California or Michigan then. Or, your'e very lucky.

I’ve literally done almost everyone of those things and it’s a non issue. The only people that can fine or arrest are state troopers and they have to stay on the highway. Don’t live in fear. Fake rules.
 
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How sad is this though? It's Friday night and the world is sitting around getting educated on nasal swabs.

I’m excited about the One World concert tomorrow. I just saw the Stones have been added to the lineup. :)
 
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there are people here who just don't care
I was gonna call the snitch line on some neighbours who had four extra cars in front of their house on Easter but I couldn't find which # to call

We live seven hours from nowhere in Northern Ontario, and would you believe, a traveller in an RV camper/trailer vehicle came driving up to the local traffic stop today, looking for a campground to park their camper. I seriously wondered if they had just dropped onto the planet from outer space. They had Ohio plates on their vehicle and somehow got across the border. How could they have missed the memo, "Stay at Home"?
 
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I think we could do a lot better. We don't have the excuse that some people don't have access to health care. Every community has a public health unit. We've got a decent emergency wage subsidy, and we aren't crowded, except in a few places. We've got well-informed government leadership that gets their information from the medical leaders. Most people are practicing safe distancing.

What the heck is going on? I wonder if we are starting to see the numbers rise because this is 2 weeks since the end of the March Break. 1,000,000 Canadians travelled during that period. Plus a huge number of snow birds came back and are now in Canada.

If this is the case, then we are going to work hard to keep the outbreak contained.
 
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