Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #48

[Bravo]

Night all. Be safe. Be kind.

 

[KALI]

It is a sad state of affairs, When your leaders have their eyes on promoting their political aspirations over the health and wealth of their citizens
I don't want to name, names. That would be political.
So. I will not.
For me. My anger for these politicians is off the charts.
As, I watch thousands of Mom and Pop businesses die.
Our business is right up there on the death charts.
The very first thing I am Not going to pay is this government.
I will pay our employees and Vendors.

 

[Strangeworld]

When it comes to protecting ourselves from the spread of CV19, there's only three things we have to do: test, test, test.

We definitely need ventilators and PPE's and social distancing, but the lynch pin on smothering this virus is testing.

That means every single person needs to be tested. Not just people who exhibit symptoms or have been identified as being in close contact with someone who has tested positive, but everyone.

I don't think it matters anymore, where the virus originated; focusing on that fact is counterproductive. Because politics doesn't halt the spread, logic does.

It seems to me, based on a lot of anecdotal evidence, is that more people who are asymptomatic are spreading the virus more than people who exhibit obvious signs of a upper respiratory illness.

I had a friend who owned a hotel in Amsterdam. It was probably built in the mid 1700s. It was located on a picturesque street on a canal. The street was narrow and every now and then someone, usually a tourist, ended up in the canal when trying to park in such economic spaces. The car was fished out of the canal and the driver got a tetanus shot. That was it. But when you think about it, it was proactive. Not wondering IF the unfortunate tourist swallowed a mouthful of bacteria-laden water, the logic was that they had. So they got the shot.

We don't know if an individual who has successfully beat CV19 has antibodies. The only way to find that out is to test them. We don't know if someone is asymptomatic. The only way to find that out is to test them. We don't know if someone who tested negative for CV19 can end up positive again. The only way to find that out is to test them.

It is critical that testing and testing supplies are provided to every single city and urban area, starting with those who have experienced the worst outbreaks. It has to be proportionally applied. That's not only logical, it's morally right.

Although I am with you on increasing testing, testing everyone is just not logical at this point in time. Because you could test everyone today, and then 20% could be exposed to the virus tomorrow. The test will say negative, because they weren't exposed at the time of testing.

 

[margarita25]

We talked about disinfecting $ in the early days.

I am really thinking about “cash” as we know it going forward, as I’m deep cleaning and finding “pennies”. (you know you’re cleaning well when you’re finding change hahaha)

Anyway, yeah, I’m not a fan of handling cash as we know it going forward.

If and when I ever “go out there” (it’s been over 6 weeks now? Cookoo) I’m going to wear gloves and going to have a “separate nasty bag” for cash transactions.

I’ll be like “just put the change in the bag“

My purse isn’t going to have nasty stuff in it, change touching my lipstick and lotion

Who thought I’d ever say “I’m worried about cash?” Cash is always good!

I can see myself with the bandana mask and bag saying “just put the money in the bag!”

 

[KALI]

It is a sad state of affairs, When your leaders have their eyes on promoting their political aspirations over the health and wealth of their citizens
I don't want to name, names. That would be political.
So. I will not.
For me. My anger for these politicians is off the charts.
As, I watch thousands of Mom and Pop businesses die.
Our business is right up there on the death charts.
The very first thing I am Not going to pay is this government.
I will pay our employees and Vendors.

 

[PingTheRouter]

yesterday looked like we were winning the battle we recorded 1 case then 0 cases for my state

then today happened and we recorded 17 new cases

people have to keep this thing up and continue distancing measures, that jump today should heed a warning to what can happen when complacency sets in

 

[KALI]

I watched this entire video.
Personally, on a scale of 10 points being a good investigative video, I give this video a 3.
JMO

On Nightline last night, Bob Woodruff went to Wuhan
"Birth of a Pandemic " 10 minute video

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[PommyMommy]

BNO Newsroom on Twitter
1,081 sailors aboard the French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle have tested positive for coronavirus; hundreds more are still waiting for their results
Tracking coronavirus: Map, data and timeline
4:17 PM - 17 Apr 2020

BNO Newsroom on Twitter
Over the past 24 hours, the U.S. reported 30,579 new cases of coronavirus and 2,618 new deaths, raising total to 710,331 cases and 37,150 dead
11:58 PM - 17 Apr 2020

BNO Newsroom on Twitter
NEW: Spain's death toll reaches 20,000
12:07 AM - 18 Apr 2020

Welcome back, @Henry2326! This thread just isn't the same without you!

 

[Trino]

I am not about to post any, but I just finished reading several coronavirus theories which actually sickened me. Do real people actually believe these theories? How are individuals who spread these ideas even part of our country? of the world? of the universe?

 

[Trino]

This is actually disturbing news.

If we can't develop herd immunity by infection, we must rely very heavily on a vaccine and this actually makes me worried about the effectiveness of a vaccine.

Otherwise, it's likely outbreak after outbreak and variable spots of isolation when there are outbreaks.

And we have protestors, despite current cases and deaths, wanting to reopen and go on as normal business. Even the business leaders that Trump consulted want to wait and thought testing was necessary before things opened. We need leadership to give protestors a perspective they are obviously missing.

 

[margarita25]

BNO Newsroom on Twitter
1,081 sailors aboard the French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle have tested positive for coronavirus; hundreds more are still waiting for their results
Tracking coronavirus: Map, data and timeline
4:17 PM - 17 Apr 2020

BNO Newsroom on Twitter
Over the past 24 hours, the U.S. reported 30,579 new cases of coronavirus and 2,618 new deaths, raising total to 710,331 cases and 37,150 dead
11:58 PM - 17 Apr 2020

BNO Newsroom on Twitter
NEW: Spain's death toll reaches 20,000
12:07 AM - 18 Apr 2020

Welcome back, @Henry2326! This thread just isn't the same without you!

Omg on the sailors.

France finds more than 1,000 virus cases on aircraft carrier

France finds more than 1,000 Covid-19 cases on flagship aircraft carrier

French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle in the Mediterranean sea, March 7, 2019. © Jean-Paul Pelissier, REUTERS

ETA:

BBC yesterday / references in progress
Coronavirus infects 668 on French aircraft carrier


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French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle - Wikipedia
Description
Length: 858′
Construction started: April 14, 1989
Capacity: 800 commandos, 500 tonnes of ammunitions
Speed: 27 knots (50 km/h)
Homeport: Toulon, France
Complement: Ship's company: 1,350; Air wing: 600


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Charles de Gaulle is the flagship of the French Navy (Marine Nationale). The ship is the tenth French aircraft carrier, the first French nuclear-poweredsurface vessel, and the only nuclear-powered carrier completed outside of the United States Navy. She is named after French statesman and general Charles de Gaulle.

Charles de Gaulle

Charles de Gaulle
History

France
Name: Charles de Gaulle
Namesake: Charles de Gaulle
Operator: Marine Nationale
Ordered: 3 February 1986
Builder: Naval Group
Laid down: 14 April 1989 (stacking of elements in prefabrication since 24 November 1987)
Launched: 7 May 1994
Maiden voyage: 18 May 2001
Renamed: Ordered as Richelieu on 3 February 1986, renamed Charles de Gaulle 18 May 1987[1][2]
Homeport: Toulon, France
Identification:

• Hull number: R91
• MMSI number: 228711555

Nickname(s): CDG
Honours and
awards: Jack with the colours of the Free French Forces (front) and the ribbon of the Ordre de la Libération (back)
Status: In service

 

[KALI]

Why is the death toll so high in New Jersey?
Many commute via subway to New York for work?
Do they have a lot of old folks home in Jersey?
I sure wish there were still reporters, who explained their stories..

With the death toll in New Jersey from the COVID-19 pandemic now greater than the number of New Jerseyans who lost their lives in World War I.

Gov. Phil Murphy said Thursday that schools will remain closed at least through May 15 in an effort to spare lives.

There have been 3,518 deaths related to coronavirus in New Jersey. Officials reported 362 new deaths Thursday, 54 of those deaths were residents of long-term care facilities.

As of April 16, there were 75,317 reported cases in the state, including 4,391 additional cases disclosed Thursday.

There were 8,224 of the stricken hospitalized as of 10 p.m. Wednesday, with 1,880 in critical condition or in intensive care, and 1,645 of those on ventilators, Murphy said.

New Jersey has completed a total of 138,609 tests with 44.7% of the tests coming back positive as of Thursday.

Long-term care facilities continue to be a concern across the state. There are 8,209 reported COVID-19 cases at 379 long-term care facilities across the state, state Health Commissioner Judith Persichilli said Wednesday.

The state is using 56% of its statewide ventilator capacity with 1,645 patients on ventilator

The governor thanked New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo for sending 100 ventilators from New York to New Jersey.

Coronavirus NJ: 375 dead in Monmouth and Ocean; state death toll exceeds World War I

 

[PommyMommy]

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
Connecticut has become the seventh state to reach 1,000 coronavirus deaths, following New York, New Jersey, Michigan, Louisiana, Massachusetts and Illinois.
5:52 PM - 17 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
Reported US coronavirus deaths:
Right now: 36,721
24 hrs ago: 32,186 4
8 hrs ago: 27,850
72 hrs ago: 25,163
6:26 PM - 17 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
(The CDC began counting probable coronavirus cases and deaths on April 14, so some states are now beginning to add probable cases and deaths to their counts.)
6:38 PM - 17 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
California has become the eighth state to reach 1,000 coronavirus deaths, following New York, New Jersey, Michigan, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Illinois and Connecticut.
6:41 PM - 17 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
Dr. Fauci says he was tested for coronavirus today and it was negative.
6:57 PM - 17 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
Fauci on lab vs. bat coronavirus origin: "A group of highly-qualified evolutionary virologists looked at the sequences in bats as they evolve. The mutations that it took to get to the point where it is now is totally consistent with a jump of a species from an animal to a human."
8:05 PM - 17 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
CNN: 700,000 people in the United States have tested positive for coronavirus.
9:05 PM - 17 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
Reported US coronavirus deaths:
7 weeks ago: 0 deaths
6 weeks ago: 17 deaths
5 weeks ago: 49 deaths
4 weeks ago: 249 deaths
3 weeks ago: 1,588 deaths
2 weeks ago: 7,152 deaths
1 week ago: 18,758 deaths
Right now: 36,997 deaths
10:47 PM - 17 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
Reported US coronavirus deaths:
Feb. 17: 0 deaths
Mar. 17: 111 deaths
Apr. 17: 36,997 deaths
10:47 PM - 17 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
Reported US coronavirus cases:
6 weeks ago: 332 cases
5 weeks ago: 2,204 cases
4 weeks ago: 18,763 cases
3 weeks ago: 101,242 cases
2 weeks ago: 277,953 cases
1 week ago: 501,301 cases
Right now: 701,131 cases
10:53 PM - 17 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
Reported US coronavirus cases:
Feb. 17: 15 cases
Mar. 17: 6,135 cases
Apr. 17: 701,131 cases
10:56 PM - 17 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
CNN: 37,000 people in the United States have died from coronavirus.
11:04 PM - 17 Apr 2020

 

[margarita25]

More quick reference on Charles de Gaulle / French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle - Wikipedia

General characteristics
Type: Aircraft carrier
Displacement: 42,500 tonnes (full load)[3]
Length: 261.5 m (858 ft) overall
Beam: 64.36 m (211.2 ft) overall
Draught: 9.43 m (30.9 ft)
Propulsion:

• 2 × Areva K15 pressurised water reactors (PWR), 150 MWt each[4][5]
• 2 × Alstomsteam turbines with a total 61 MW[5] shaft power
• 4 × diesel-electric
• 2 × shafts

Speed: 27 knots(50 km/h)
Range: Unlimited distance; 20–25 years
Endurance: 45 days of food
Capacity: 800 commandos, 500 tonnes of ammunition
Complement:

• Ship's company: 1,350
• Air wing: 600

Sensors and
processing systems:

• DRBJ 11 B tridimensional air search radar
• Thales SMART-S MK2 (replacing DRBJ 11B)
• DRBV 26D air search radar
• DRBV 15C low altitude air search radar
• Arabel target acquisition radar

Electronic warfare
& decoys:

• ARBR 21 Detector
• ARBB 33 Countermeasures suite
• ARBG2 MAIGRET Interceptor
• 4 × Sagaie decoys launcher
• SLAT (Système de lutte anti-torpille) torpedo countermeasures

Armament:

• 4 × 8 cell A-43 Sylver launcherscarrying the MBDA Aster 15surface-to-air missile.
• 2 × 6 cell Sadral launchers carrying Mistralshort range missiles
• 8 × Giat 20F2 20 mm cannons.

Aircraft carried:

• 30–40 aircraft,[6][7]including
• 30-40 Rafale M
• 2 E-2C Hawkeye
• 2 NFH Caïman Marine
• 1 AS565 Panther ISR
• 2 AS365F Dauphin Pedro

The ship carries a complement of Dassault Rafale M and E‑2C Hawkeyeaircraft, EC725 Caracal and AS532 Cougar helicopters for combat search and rescue, as well as modern electronics and Aster missiles. She is a CATOBAR-type carrier that uses two 75 m C13‑3 steam catapults of a shorter version of the catapult system installed on the U.S. Nimitz-classaircraft carriers, one catapult at the bow and one across the front of the landing area.[6] As of May 2019, Charles de Gaulle is the only non-American carrier-vessel that has a catapult launch system, which has allowed for operation of F/A-18E/F Super Hornets[8] and C-2 Greyhoundsof the US Navy.[9][10]

 

[Auntie Cipation]

Regarding reading, I usually read nonfiction but I have found that right now, the lower concentration required for fiction (a delicious Stephen King, to be more specific) is doable.

Ooh, care to say which one? I try to read one of his each year (usually on Halloween, mwahahaha)

Why is the death toll so high in New Jersey?
Many commute via subway to New York for work?
Do they have a lot of old folks home in Jersey?
I sure wish there were still reporters, who explained their stories..

Someone posted this morning that NJ has a higher population density than even NY. I can't find the post so MOO.

 

[margarita25]

Virginia lawmakers urge Navy to support shipbuilders during pandemic
2 hours ago

“WASHINGTON (WAVY) — More than a dozen lawmakers from Virginia have joined forces to request the U.S. Navy support the shipbuilding and ship maintenance industrial base.


[...]

“The lawmakers also asked the Navy support expeditious contractual agreements between the shipbuilding industry and the military to make sure the partnership “fully alleviates the negative impacts” on workers and companies by COVID-19.”

 

[BeckyF]

No one is going to want to use the public bathrooms ... ewh!

It will be a long time before I use a public bathroom. I'd have to be desperate.

Indeed. That’s why I said “one side of it”.

ETA:
If they already don’t use public restrooms, etc, there’s less of a transition and behavioral changes that need to be made, therefore less shocking lifestyle wise overall. I’m certainly not saying it’s not traumatic because we know that’s not true.

How’s Howie Mandel I wonder?

LOL. I was just thinking about him today. He may be wearing a hazmat suit. How on earth will he be able to handle sitting so close to so many people if they decide to film another AGT series?

 

[Tripod]

The numbers are awful for NYC, but they could've been far, far worse, imo. NY has done a great job at flattening the curve.

Most people are adhering to social distancing (yes, you can find exceptions in the news stories) and masks are now mandated for everyone - though people have been wearing them and some stores were already requiring them.

The majority of people take social distancing seriously and that slowed the spread....and avoided even more deaths.

Keep it up! Every day heroes are people who social-distance, wear masks, stay home. I give credit to everyone cooperating with that - THANK YOU!

(I'm in NYC.)

I agree that the numbers could be worse. Thankfully the Javits Center and Navy ship Comfort have not had to have been fully utilized.
I'm in NYS and my better half does the store runs. He says too many people are still not adhering to the safety guidelines set up in each store

 

[BNA]

New story.....4/17.....evening.....

It is a nasty bear.

How does coronavirus kill? Clinicians trace a ferocious rampage through the body, from brain to toes | Science | AAAS

 

[firebird]

Ooh, care to say which one? I try to read one of his each year (usually on Halloween, mwahahaha)



Someone posted this morning that NJ has a higher population density than even NY. I can't find the post so MOO.

I can't back this up other than being from NJ, but I would say it has a higher density than NY, but a lower density than Manhatten. Also, two of the worst cities in the country -- Newark and Camden, are in NJ. And it's just across a river from two more -- NYC and Philly.