Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #49

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CANADA....R0 down to 1.0....good news
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David Fishman....Univ of Toronto
By the way: take some time out of the day to pat yourself on the back, Canada. We did this together.
We’re not finished, but we have achieved a lot. David Fisman on Twitter

Well, that's a lovely thought, but I would like to see more confirmation of this before I put my trust in that graph.
 
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De Blasio to Trump: ‘Are You Telling N.Y.C. to Drop Dead?’: Live Updates

“De Blasio asks Trump if he’s telling New York City to ‘drop dead.’

Mayor Bill de Blasio on Sunday continued to call on President Trump to direct desperately needed federal funding to American cities, and to criticize the president’s silence on the matter.

“President Trump, what’s going on? Cat got your tongue?” Mr. de Blasio said during his daily press briefing. “You’re usually really talkative. You usually have an opinion on everything. How on earth do you not have an opinion on aid to American cities and states?”

He compared President Trump’s lack of response to the financial shortfall facing New York City in particular to President Gerald Ford’s dismissal of the city during the fiscal crisis of the 1970s.

The mayor announced earlier in the week that New York City would have to slash more than $2 billion in municipal services over the next year.

“There was that famous Daily News cover that said ‘Ford to City: Drop Dread,’” Mr. de Blasio said. “So my question is, Mr. Trump, Mr. President, are you going to save New York City or are you telling New York City to drop dead? Which one is it?”

“You are failing to protect the very people you grew up around,” Mr. de Blasio added.

The Daily News cover that Mr. de Blasio referenced was printed in response to a speech given by President Ford in October 1975, in which he said he would veto any federal bill that would prevent New York City from bankruptcy.

Mr. de Blasio’s statements on Sunday represented a significant heightening of his rhetoric even as he continued to call on the president to personally intercede in making sure that all American cities received the federal funding they so badly needed.”

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““If cities can’t function, how on earth do you have a national recovery?” Mr. de Blasio said.”

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Mayor De Blasio to Trump: ‘Are You Telling New York City to Drop Dead?’

“"Literally with the snap of his fingers, Donald Trump could fix that," de Blasio said, suggesting the president's intervention could spur legislation from Congress. "If he would just say the word, the Senate would jump."

The mayor says he has had numerous conversations with President Trump and Vice President Pence, but neither, he says, have delivered public support for legislative aid delivered by Congress.”
 
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It worked.....I was good to go.....all tele-medicine includes UTI in there wheelhouse.

Yes, with UTI's and URI's, there is what are called "broad spectrum antibiotics" which are to this day, the STANDARD of care initially at outset.
 
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Sbm
I know
Let the conspiracy theories begin. Or better yet, let them please don't begin!

jmo

The bats researched in the Wuhan virology lab are not Fruit Bats
Alzo makes an over the counter test. Can buy from Amazon too. I keep a box on hand. I held it up to the screen for my teladoc to see....got a script for cipro....

OOh. Watch out for the Ciprofloxacin side effects. I know someone who ruptured an Achilles tendon while on it. Had to have surgery. Still isn't exactly right.
 
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Venezuela's go-to test for fighting virus raising questions

"... they are reporting fewer.

The odd result highlights that Venezuela is going about testing its citizens unlike any other country: Mass deployment of a rapid blood antibody test
from China that checks for proteins developing a week or more after someone is infected, while using on a much smaller scale the gold-standard nasal swab exam that detects the virus from the onset.

Doctors warn that Venezuela's approach could be missing untold numbers
because they do not yet have high antibody levels but could nonetheless have the virus and be spreading it to others.

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Physicians in and outside Venezuela say the antibody test is best utilized not as a diagnostic tool but to help access how wide spread the virus is in a community, when to lift quarantines or to identify potential plasma owners.

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The antibody test comes from Chinese biotech company Wondfo and takes about 20 minutes to yield a result"

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ETA
Wondfo:

COVID-19 - wondfo

Chinese testing kit exports soar as COVID-19 spreads - Chinadaily.com.cn

NB:
Disclaimer: WHO does not endorse any of the lists provided by NRAs. This information is provided exclusively to assist stakehol

PDF (unable to post link)

The FDA has opened the floodgates to allow all sorts of unsupported "tests" to be used in the US. They don't have enough personnel to review the many pages of documentation and data that a test usually requires, so right now all they require are some preliminary forms.

I have reviewed some test validation data on some of these rapid serology tests from China. They are very poorly supported and should not be used.

Remember Spain wasted $400 million on such inadequate and poorly designed tests from China. They had a sensitivity rate of 36%.

That means if 100 patients were positive, the test would only detect 36.
You would be better off flipping a coin. That would be more accurate than a test with a sensitivity rate of only 36%. The specificity was also very poor. They made no effort to correct for any of the other coronaviruses we may come in contact with ( there are 6 others that may be found in humans, at this time)

There are a few more very good tests coming on the market that are made by legitimate US or European laboratory test makers. They are far superior in accuracy and sensitivity than these worthless tests from China.
 
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I have reviewed some test validation data on some of these rapid serology tests from China. They are very poorly supported and should not be used.

Remember Spain wasted $400 million on such inadequate and poorly designed tests from China. They had a sensitivity rate of 35%.

You would be better off flipping a coin. That would be more accurate than a test with a sensitivity rate of only 35%.

There are a few more very good tests coming on the market that are made by legitimate US or European laboratory test makers. They are far superior in accuracy and sensitivity than these worthless tests from China.

Good to know, ty, Herat.
 
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I stated less serious issues....that wouldnt include trauma. Agreed, telemedicine can handle UTI, headaches, minor aches and pains, allergy, constipation, ear ache....yes, he gets calls for these in 911.

I dispatch for 000 (911) in Australia and we triage these calls, they go through to a clinician who assesses them and if appropriate, tells them to go see their own doctor. We also have a 24 hour “Nurse on Call” service with the goal that people will call them first for something non-life threatening. And if it turns out not to be so minor, they’ll then transfer them through to 000 (because it works the other way too, sometimes people are under-dramatic rather than over-dramatic!). These things combined have greatly reduced tying up ambulances for minor issues.
 
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And @Auntie Cipation I just finished The Institute and it’s great! Of course Pet Cemetery is an oldie but a goodie.

I’ll have to check out Under the Dome, I haven’t read that one yet.
I loved The Institute! And read Pet Semetary so long ago. But Under the Dome looks good, as does The Outsider. Thanks!

https://nypost.com/2020/04/17/pastor-urges-people-to-donate-stimulus-checks-to-church/

Louisiana pastor urges people to donate stimulus checks to church

The Rev. Tony Spell is imploring followers to join a new online challenge he dubbed the #PastorSpellStimulusChallenge because churches have been starved of “offerings” amid the pandemic, he said in a video posted to YouTube on Wednesday.

“Donate it to evangelists, North American evangelists who haven’t had an offering in a month; missionaries, who haven’t had an offering in a month; music ministers, who haven’t had an offering in a month,” Spell, of Baton Rouge, says in the video.

I passed my stimulus check on to my local Humane Society. I'm one of those whose income hasn't been affected by the virus and closures, thankfully. Our humane society makes most of their money via a thrift store they run, but that is closed for now as unessential. They were thrilled with my donation.

It was on a big screen in the car park apparently so they could watch and listen from there cars like a drive in. Personally, if everyone is following social distancing, what are they doing wrong?

I think this is like the skateboard park -- yes it's possible to participate in a distance-safe manner, but in reality too many people decide to ignore caution -- having windows open while parked right next to each other, letting kids out to play, getting out to stretch legs etc. Impossible to ensure safety without patrols, and patrols are busy with more essential activities. MOO on this.

And blowing bubbles out of their nose.

The next upcoming fad! :p
 
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I dispatch for 000 (911) in Australia and we triage these calls, they go through to a clinician who assesses them and if appropriate, tells them to go see their own doctor. We also have a 24 hour “Nurse on Call” service with the goal that people will call them first for something non-life threatening. And if it turns out not to be so minor, they’ll then transfer them through to 000 (because it works the other way too, sometimes people are under-dramatic rather than over-dramatic!). These things combined have greatly reduced tying up ambulances for minor issues.
Thank you for what you do....its a tough job....Australia has done a great job in this crisis with processes....IMO
 
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“CORONAVIRUS CASES IN COLORADO
In Colorado, 9,433 people have tested positive for the disease caused by the novel coronavirus, COVID-19, and 411 people have died. Of those who tested positive for the disease, 1,797 have been hospitalized.

According to CDPHE, 44,606 people have been tested and 56 counties are reporting cases. There have been 107 outbreaks at residential and non-hospital health care facilities.”

Colorado coronavirus latest, April 19: Bob Lazier, Vail hotel mogul and former pro racer, passes away at 81

230 nursing homes in Georgia infected with COVID19! Some states are not releasing this information, some are such as Georgia which lists in this article all of them, their names and addresses etc.

.State agency: Confirmed COVID-19 cases at 230 nursing homes, facilities across Georgia
 
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There was an outbreak in Toronto, but that seemed far away even for those living in Canada. It seemed contained, and not that contagious except in hospitals.
I lived an hour outside Toronto during SARS so it felt quite real to me :(
 
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These threads move fast. No way can I read all posts.

Was out twice today. At 6 AM went to store for a couple items. Few people and everyone wearing a mask. Some of us wearing non cloth gloves.

Went out again at 8 AM to gas up the car and can for mowers. $15 for the car and $5 for the mower. Use either CC or exact cash . I do not accept change these days. Disappointed car wash at gas station is closed till further notice. Attendant when I asked said business is down a lot.

Eerie driving with barely any traffic. There were more cars out and about late 60s when I started driving around here than today. Even on a Sunday.
 
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I have some family members in Michigan and I was really concerned when I read about all these restrictions placed on buying garden seeds and gardening supplies. My relatives are retired and have always had a large backyard garden each summer (both vegetables and flowers). I called them yesterday and offered to mail some seeds so they could plant despite the restrictions. To my great relief, they told me that they can still buy garden seeds and garden plants and I didn't need to send anything. The restriction is ONLY on buying those things at the big box stores like Walmart and Home Depot. Apparently the rule is based on the physical size of the store. They can get all their seeds and plants and other supplies from smaller garden centers. And they told me they got almost everything they will need already. My relatives main concern with the restrictions were that the rules made the small garden centers more crowded and meant they had to increase their risk by shopping at more than one store. They wore masks and gloves but it was impossible to social distance in one of the smaller stores. The other small local garden center was placing restrictions on the number of people allowed in at once. That was good for social distancing inside but it led to long lines outside and a full parking lot. I'm glad that the small garden centers will likely be able to stay in business but I worry a little that they might not be able to handle all the additional people who are suddenly wanting to start gardening. Hopefully this ban is only a temporary situation. I wouldn't like those rules at all.

MOO.
It's good that they can get gardening supplies, but why the rational that only certain stores can sell these supplies? IMO when I go to a garden center, whether it be in a big box or a small garden center, at least 1/2 of it is outdoors. Small stores also won't have the staff or the experience to keep their stores virus clean, whereas bigger stores have been doing necessary sanitizing daily. I love small stores, and support them, but I think this is wrong to not allow big box stores to also sell. Further more, it requires people to go to more than one store for their needs, which is certainly increasing the chance that they are exposed to the virus.

I've contacted some of my favorite vendors at the local farmers markets which should start up next week (but won't), and one has told me he will be selling his early produce at a smaller garden center. Whoo Hoo.

MOO
 
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