Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #50

[Deleted member 39678]

Does someone have to tell me? I can think for myself. We can listen to them, and we can listen to other people and form our own opinion. Thing do not need to be censored. We can sort out the "weirdoes in their basement."

Apparently we should only listen to one source.

 

[rodneymullenmg]

I don’t understand the anti- science sentiment

 

[RoadToSerfdom]

Science and medical professionals

not politicians, youtubers or conspiracy theorists

Can't you take a look at the Vet study yourself and see that it is useless propaganda? I listed a bunch of reasons that are true facts about the study and prove it holds no scientific value. So those "science and medical professionals" who uploaded that study have been proven to be spreading a flawed study and propaganda.

appeal to authority fallacy

 

[Seattle1]

Well, this is a bit maddening. We should not have unqualified people at the helm. It can cost lives.

Special Report: Former Labradoodle breeder tapped to lead U.S. pandemic task force

And to be clear, this is not a professional coming back from semi-retirement to help an overwhelmed agency with $1.3 trillion budget in need of oversight!

Shortly after his televised comments, Azar tapped a trusted aide with minimal public health experience to lead the agency’s day-to-day response to COVID-19. The aide, Brian Harrison, had joined the department after running a dog-breeding business for six years. Five sources say some officials in the White House derisively called him “the dog breeder.”

Azar’s optimistic public pronouncement and choice of an inexperienced manager are emblematic of his agency’s oft-troubled response to the crisis. His HHS is a behemoth department, overseeing almost every federal public health agency in the country, with a $1.3 trillion budget that exceeds the gross national product of most countries.

 

[Sillybilly]

Just to share a little tidbit from my day of WS and self-isolating.

Went out briefly to get milk at a local gas station. Saw they had 500 ml bottles of rubbing alcohol and peroxide. First time I've been able to get my hands on any disinfectant type products other than 1 bottle of bleach that I've been using judiciously. Pondering how many bottles I should get, and without checking the price, bought only 1 of each in order to be considerate of others. Got home and was totally POd to discover I had been charged $9.99 for each bottle that should normally cost maybe $1.99 to $2.99.

Later decided to go to my storage unit in the building to get my earthquake preparedness bag to see what goodies I might have there. Opened it to discover I am the proud owner of 6 N95 masks ... worth their weight in gold !!

Sometimes even a little cloud has a silver lining

 

[TMAN2014]

I don’t understand the anti- science sentiment

I am pro science, but anti groupthink, and I am for checks and balances, kind of how our government was designed to work. Everything should be checked. Don't trust anyone. You cannot blindly accept things. That is part of science.

 

[PommyMommy]

The Senate approved the next round of fiscal stimulus, but economists don't think it's enough

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Economists call the latest round of fiscal stimulus a step in the right direction, but warn that more money will be necessary to help both American households and businesses during the coronavirus pandemic.

"This bill will help address shortfalls, but even more stimulus will likely be needed," said economists at Bank of America in a research note. "We expect Congress to pass another large package worth up to $1.5 trillion that extends on provisions in the CARES Act."

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More than 75% of US hotel rooms remain empty

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The numbers are a slight increase from recent weeks, but STR attributes that to rooms being used by people working to respond to the pandemic.

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New York City, were some medical workers are being housed in hotels, posted an occupancy rate of about 33%, up from a low of about 15% for the week ending March 28.

Oahu Island, Hawaii, remains the market with lowest occupancy. Only 8% of the rooms there are occupied.

Two cats in New York are first pets in US to test positive for coronavirus, federal officials say

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Both animals had mild respiratory symptoms and are expected to make a full recovery.

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The two cats were tested after they showed respiratory symptoms, according to the agencies, and they join the ranks of a lion and a tiger in New York who were previously confirmed to be infected.

A veterinarian tested the first house cat after it showed mild respiratory signs, but none of the humans in its household were confirmed to have the virus.

It’s possible, officials said, that the cat was infected by somebody outside the home. Someone inside the house, with mild or no symptoms, could have also transmitted the virus.

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Minnesota records its most coronavirus deaths and infections seen in one day

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The governor cited 19 deaths and 154 new infections. Walz went on to say it appears the state is climbing the slope.

Health Secretary Jan Malcolm said the state expects to see these numbers increase.

California governor says call with Trump focused on need for testing supplies

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As the state increases testing capacity, the overwhelming need is supplies, specifically test swabs, Newsom said he told Trump during a call Wednesday.

The President promised that California will receive 100,000 test swabs this week, 250,000 next week, and more the week after, Newsom said.

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California governor on reopening state: "There is no date"

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California is looking closely at six key indicators based on health science, not politics, the governor said. Those indicators are:

1. Testing and tracking
2. Protecting vulnerable populations
3. Hospital preparedness, including personal protective equipment
4. Developing treatments, including vaccines
5. The ability to continue physical distancing, especially at schools and businesses
6. The ability to reinstate stay home orders if needed

Las Vegas mayor says businesses "better figure" out plan to reopen on their own

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"I am not a private owner. That's the competition in this country. The free enterprise and to be able to make sure that what you offer the public meets the needs of the public," Goodman, an independent, told CNN's Anderson Cooper.
"Right now, we're in a crisis health-wise, and so for a restaurant to be open or a small boutique to be open, they better figure it out. That's their job. That's not the mayor's job."

Boston mayor says the city is still not at its peak of coronavirus cases

There are at least, 6,010 cases of coronavirus in Boston, and 196 people have died from the disease, Boston Mayor Marty Walsh said at a news conference Wednesday.

The city is still not at its peak of cases and the surge is going to continue, he said.

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Pompeo announces $270 million in additional US foreign assistance for coronavirus response

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced more than $270 million in additional foreign assistance being provided in humanitarian aid and government assistance from the US to countries that need help responding to the Covid-19 outbreak.

This is part of the emergency supplemental funding provided by Congress for the pandemic – which totals $2.4 billion.

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US coronavirus update: Latest on cases, deaths and reopening the country - CNN

 

[firebird]

Apparently we should only listen to one source.

This convo reminds me of the babylon bee's coronavirus talking point translation guide from yesterday. The talking point was "the WHO kind of blew it on this one" and the translation was "I want people to die and I hate science"

 

[rodneymullenmg]

I am pro science, but anti groupthink, and I am for checks and balances, kind of how our government was designed to work. Everything should be checked. Don't trust anyone. You cannot blindly accept things. That is part of science.

Exactly and that medicine has not been shown to help at all. More tests needed but right now it’s more harmful than good

 

[JustEve]

Maybe we should listen to a labradoodle breeder. I’m sure they’ll know more than a doctor haha

Certainly.

In all my posts here
there are links to medical research papers, not to labradoodle breeder´s magazine.

 

[RoadToSerfdom]

Actually, if an employer offers an employee a job offer, back to work, and the employee declines a valid job offer, the employer can contact Unemployment insurance, and have the employee disqualified from collecting UI.

Each weekly filing, a claimant has to "certify" that they did not decline any job offers, that they were able and available for work. So...

That is normally true but I think this legislation included a new rule where you could just declare you can't go back to work do to the virus (to take care of child home from school, etc.) and you can stay on unemployment even after turning down job offer.

 

[Seattle1]

Hard to say, but my hunch is that most people out of work WANT to return to their jobs. I think most will be willing to return rather than try to continue unemployment benefits. There will be exceptions, of course.

jmo

True but the difference now is that recipients are getting an additional $600/wk benefit if they're unemployed March 29 - July 25. This was established just for the COVID-19 crisis.

 

[anneg]

Now I have to make little masks for my cat.

Cats are wearing coronavirus masks in China

 

[TMAN2014]

Later decided to go to my storage unit in the building to get my earthquake preparedness bag to see what goodies I might have there. Opened it to discover I am the proud owner of 6 N95 masks ... worth their weight in gold !! snipped

You have an earthquake preparedness bag? Wow. I have nothing of the sort I'm doomed if we have one of those, but we don't get that here.

 

[musicaljoke]

Now I have to make little masks for my cat.

Cats get a coronavirus vaccine as part of their routine vaccinations. I'm a bit sceptical about the reports of the particular coronavirus, CoV19 in cats, however it could be so, I suppose. I want to see the lab tests before believing it. I'm not even sure that there is a lab test for CoV19 in cats.

Cat FIP (Feline Infectious Peritonitis): Symptoms, Causes, and Treatments

From the link..."Diagnosing FIP is challenging. Despite the claims made by some laboratories and test manufacturers, there is currently no test that can distinguish between the harmless intestinal coronavirus and the deadly FIP coronavirus. A positive test may support the veterinarian’s suspicions, but by itself is inconclusive. It means only that a cat has been exposed to and may be harboring a coronavirus. A negative test usually (but not always) indicates that the cat is unlikely to have FIP."

 

[cody22]

Cats are wearing coronavirus masks in China

But.........Is that mask WHO and youtube approved ?......moo

 

[Curious Me]

As I have said before, t hydroxychloroquine is nothing more than one needle in the haystack. The less we focus, the more that will be done with all those other needles. geeez.

I think what was brought up matters that by disregarding one inexpensive drug as being ineffective or dangerous might be a profit making ploy. There might be "other needles in the haystack" that will cost more and make more profit for behind the scenes greedy people. So, geez. It's not wrong to consider that.

 

[TMAN2014]

Even though I work in the medical profession, I do not know much about specific drugs.

I took the hydrocloroquine as more of a "shot in the dark" for people at the end of the line, where you could afford to take a risk. If it works great, if not, well it was a shot in the dark. These people cannot wait 3 years for all the tests. They have 3 days left, not years, so take a shot. If you are going to die any way, what do you have to lose? That is who they were talking about.

 

[PommyMommy]

Michigan governor is reevaluating state's stay-at-home order

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Hospitalizations peaked roughly 10 days ago and the state has seen a decline since then, the governor added.

She also said that they have secured enough medical equipment for hospitals to last at least a week.

"The curve is flattening and starting to stabilize," Whitmer added.

Maryland governor will announce reopening plan on Friday

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Hogan said the plan has "four essential building blocks that are needed to be solidly in place before we can be in position to begin lifting restrictions."

He said the four parts include:

1. Expanding the state's testing capacity
2. Increasing hospital surge capacity
3. Increasing the supply of protective medical equipment
4. Developing a robust contact tracing operation

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HHS announces funding for coronavirus testing for uninsured Americans

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Some of the money from the CARES Act will go to reimburse caregivers who treated Covid-19 patients who had no health insurance, HHS Secretary Alex Azar told reporters. Some will also pay for testing uninsured Americans for Covid-19, said the administrator for the HHS’ Health Resources and Services Administration, Thomas Engels.

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“When an FDA-approved vaccine becomes available, it will also be covered,” Engels said.

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New York City has 9,944 confirmed coronavirus deaths

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The total number of confirmed coronavirus deaths and probable coronavirus deaths in New York City is 14,996.

There have been 138,435 coronavirus cases in the city and approximately 35,920 people have been hospitalized, according to the city.

Rhode Island drafting plan to open parks and beaches

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“It's my hope that we will be able to enjoy our parks and beaches in the month of May,” Raimondo said. “We’ll be reopening them, like everything else, in a staged fashion, slowly, with new restrictions, incrementally, leading up to an eventual complete reopening.”

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California will begin allowing scheduled surgeries

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Newsom emphasized those surgeries include important medical procedures like heart surgery and cancerous tumor.

Elective procedures like cosmetic surgery are not a priority, he said.

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Kansas governor signs executive order to ease license restrictions on health care workers

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The governor said this measure will temporarily wave physician supervision or collaboration requirements from certain medical professionals who are assisting in the state’s response efforts such as physician assistants and registered nurses.

The executive order will also permit registered nurses and licensed practical nurses “who hold a specialty license that is exempt, inactive, or has lapsed within the last five years to provide medical services appropriate to their qualifications,” Kelly said.

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New York crematoriums overwhelmed by the number of dead get help from volunteers

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Penepent, who is also an associate professor of Funeral Services Administration at SUNY Canton, said, “I knew that with the backlog of human remains down in the NYC area there was going to be the need to find a solution to get these remains to a final resting place.”

North Carolina examining ways to ease state restrictions

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Cohen said decisions are currently being made on the state level, and not county-by-county.

“I think making decisions at the county level is incredibly challenging given how people move throughout the counties. The virus certainly does not respect county borders. I think it's reasonable to look at regions, but we have to be guided by the data to do that. And we're going to continue our work here. At the moment, we want to be making statewide decisions,” she said.

US coronavirus update: Latest on cases, deaths and reopening the country - CNN

 

[24Roses]

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