Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #51

[BHughes]

Louisiana coronavirus stay-at-home order extended until May 15, with three changes
Louisiana coronavirus stay-at-home order extended until May 15, with three changes
"Restaurants will be allowed to let customers eat outdoors on patios if there is no table service, malls can operate curbside retail and public-facing workers must wear masks. Those three changes will take place May 1, when the current order is set to expire"

 

[musicaljoke]

Nursing homes push governors for legal immunity during COVID-19 crisis

As the COVID-19 death toll at nursing homes climbs to nearly 12,000, the nursing home industry is pushing states to provide immunity from lawsuits to the owners and employees of the nation's 15,600 nursing homes.

So far at least six states have provided explicit immunity from coronavirus lawsuits for nursing homes, and six more have granted some form of immunity to health care providers, which legal experts say could likely be interpreted to include nursing homes.



Patient advocates worry that nursing homes accused of extreme neglect could avoid liability.

"I can't even believe this is a topic of discussion," said Anny Figueroa, whose 55-year-old mother was a resident at Andover Subacute & Rehab Center in New Jersey, where law enforcement discovered 17 bodies in a makeshift morgue this month. The nursing home is under investigation by the state attorney general.

Figueroa said her family was kept in the dark about her mother's coronavirus diagnosis, forcing her to demand that she be transferred to a hospital, where she is now in intensive care. Figueroa said she fears immunity will let facilities like Andover "continue to neglect and abuse these helpless individuals because now they are not liable."

Continued at link.

It might be a good time to put a moratorium on all lawsuits related to CoV-19. Otherwise, I foresee that everyone will have justification at some point to initiate a lawsuit. The costs will be endless.

 

[tresir2012]

(This is what they mean by depopulation)

2 million chickens will be euthanized at a single plant as the coronavirus puts the US on the brink of a meat shortage

A poultry processing plant in Delaware has made the "difficult but necessary" decision to kill two million chickens as worker shortages push the US meat supply chain towards a breaking point.
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"If no action were taken, the birds would outgrow the capacity of the chicken house to hold them," the company said, noting that the birds will be killed "using approved, humane methods" and farmers will still be compensated.
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Why can't they be killed and frozen? I do not understand this.

 

[Curious Me]

(This is what they mean by depopulation)

2 million chickens will be euthanized at a single plant as the coronavirus puts the US on the brink of a meat shortage

A poultry processing plant in Delaware has made the "difficult but necessary" decision to kill two million chickens as worker shortages push the US meat supply chain towards a breaking point.
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"If no action were taken, the birds would outgrow the capacity of the chicken house to hold them," the company said, noting that the birds will be killed "using approved, humane methods" and farmers will still be compensated.
...

That's so many chickens! I want to stay in semi-denial, but it sounds like they won't be used for anything, just killed. I have a love/hate relationship with eating meat. I started to like Rotisserie Chicken, and read a long article about Costco having their own chicken producing in the Midwest. This is all an eye-opener.

Can't they just make them egg layers instead?

2 million chickens will be euthanized at a single plant as the coronavirus puts the US on the brink of a meat shortage

 

[tresir2012]

If viruses like this comes from bats, what would happen if we cut down the bat population? I am sure they prey upon insects or something, that makes them necessary, but at what cost? Is there a point where it is worth it to declare war on bats to prevent a million+ people from dying?

I am sure a scientist is ready to pounce on me for this question!

Bats are a protected species in the UK. It's illegal to harm them.

 

[tresir2012]

As the number of COVID-19 cases continues to increase, it is clear an effective vaccine is urgently needed. With experts predicting 12 to 18 months before a vaccine is available, some scientists are considering unconventional ways to speed up the process. One highly debated method involves injecting healthy adults with live coronavirus.

This strategy -- called a challenge trial -- would normally never be considered to test a deadly virus for which there is no effective cure, but these are extraordinary times.

Injecting healthy adults with live coronavirus provides moral dilemma, faster path to vaccine

This will just make the placebo group sick won't it? What is the point of this after staying at home so that we don't get the virus?

 

[ilovewings]

That's just so sad.

a terrible tragedy

 

[Trino]

What? The federal government is a last resort for testing? I thought we were the UNITED States of America.
White House document says federal government is a test 'supplier of last resort' - CNNPolitics

 

[MimosaMornings]

I think that the guidelines will be that vulnerable workers continue to work remotely, if possible. You can't furlough a class of workers (such as those over 65, etc.) as it is against U.S. labor laws. But you can keep them working remotely.

I wish there was a plan for those trying to keep working but it’s difficult. Especially if unable to work remotely or even in a smaller office environment.

My cousin who works for a large manufacturing plant asked for a temporary furlough due to 65 with hypertension and was told to take his two weeks of vacation and then show up for work. How do you social distance with 1000 people in a manufacturing plant working elbow to elbow? He will not get his full social security for a year and a half.
Temp checks are good but we know that it is also spread by people with no symptoms or very mild symptoms.
To avoid paying unemployment, the plant is going to work 2-3 days a week.

 

[BUF]

Woman travels from New York to North Carolina on full flight despite social distancing orders | Daily Mail Online

photos included (of course...it’s the DM)

 

[CSIDreamer]

Woman travels from New York to North Carolina on full flight despite social distancing orders | Daily Mail Online

photos included (of course...it’s the DM)

Soooooooo why did she not get off the plane?

 

[Deleted member 158085]

If viruses like this comes from bats, what would happen if we cut down the bat population? I am sure they prey upon insects or something, that makes them necessary, but at what cost? Is there a point where it is worth it to declare war on bats to prevent a million+ people from dying?

I am sure a scientist is ready to pounce on me for this question!

No. The consequences would be terrible. They eat the insects that cause other devastating diseases. Every time we decide to “manage” some animal population, it just causes other problems. We need to leave Mother Nature alone.

 

[MimosaMornings]

This is the decision for some of us that still need to get home. 15-16 hours with gas/bathroom stops plus hotel stay in a rental car driving alone or flying on a crowded plane. Ugh

 

[mickey2942]

Bats are a protected species in the UK. It's illegal to harm them.

WTH?! They are classified as "vermin" here. And a quick call to the exterminator takes care of those critters.

Kids are SO dumb! I remember petting bats when I was a kid! They are so soft and tiny. Especially the baby ones...somehow, I survived...

This is an interesting article about how bats are part of an "ecosystem" in Las Vegas.
https://www.casino.org/blog/luxors-sky-beam-attracts-a-lot-more-than-just-casino-goers/

 

[Deleted member 158085]

That's so many chickens! I want to stay in semi-denial, but it sounds like they won't be used for anything, just killed. I have a love/hate relationship with eating meat. I started to like Rotisserie Chicken, and read a long article about Costco having their own chicken producing in the Midwest. This is all an eye-opener.

Can't they just make them egg layers instead?

2 million chickens will be euthanized at a single plant as the coronavirus puts the US on the brink of a meat shortage

This is graphic - warning.
Meat chickens are bred so that they cannot live long. They have been engineered by humans to become so large that their muscles and bones just collapse under their own weight. Those who rescue these creatures are incredible people because they are signing on for monitoring food intake and still losing the chickens at a very young age. They are different from laying hens. This is why hatcheries that breed laying hens throw those day old males right into the grinder (alive) to die, because they can’t be used by the factories that produce meat birds and almost nobody wants a regular rooster, so they can’t sell many.

This is your food supply. It is in no way kind or humane. And that is why I do not eat chicken. I hope their “euthanasia” isn’t going to be the awful gas fogging I’ve seen video of. It is not humane. But of course, no “euthanasia” for that many birds will be.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

What? The federal government is a last resort for testing? I thought we were the UNITED States of America.
White House document says federal government is a test 'supplier of last resort' - CNNPolitics

Nothing makes sense anymore, does it?

 

[jjenny]

This will just make the placebo group sick won't it? What is the point of this after staying at home so that we don't get the virus?

The challenge trial would only use healthy young people that normally don't get severely sick from covid. Of course there are exceptions to everything. So it would be very dangerous.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Woman travels from New York to North Carolina on full flight despite social distancing orders | Daily Mail Online

photos included (of course...it’s the DM)

They’re working on “allowing” flight attendants to wear masks. So it must currently be against the rules to protect themselves and others b wearing one.

 

[Trino]

APRIL 27, 2020 - 1:02 PM

Newport Beach now considering closing beaches due to weekend's crowds

An aerial view of beachgoers enjoying a warm, sunny Saturday in Newport Beach amid state-mandated stay-at-home orders to help prevent the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.(Allen J. Schaben / Los Angeles Times)

Newport Beach will consider targeted beach closures in response to the turnout during this weekend’s heat wave.

About time "consideration" goes to full arrests.

 

[tmar]

Australia warns China against using 'economic coercion' to prevent a probe into the coronavirus pandemic as Beijing ambassador warns they could stop importing wine and beef

Tim Stickings For Mailonline and Reuters
7 hrs ago
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Australia has warned China against using 'economic coercion' to stop an investigation into the coronavirus pandemic after Beijing's ambassador in Canberra hinted at a boycott of the country's products.

Australia is urging WHO members to support an independent review into the origins of the virus - an inquiry which China opposes.
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China's ambassador Cheng Jingye said in an interview that the 'Chinese public' might abandon Australian wine and beef if such a probe goes ahead.

But Australia's foreign minister Marise Payne has dismissed the threat, saying Australia was making a 'principled call' for an investigation.

'We reject any suggestion that economic coercion is an appropriate response to a call for such an assessment, when what we need is global cooperation,' Payne said.

An 'honest assessment' of the pandemic would seek to strengthen the WHO's role, the foreign minister said.

The comments from ambassador Cheng were published in the Australian Financial Review, which said the diplomat had described a possible probe as 'dangerous'.

'The Chinese public is frustrated, dismayed and disappointed with what Australia is doing now,' he said.