Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #52

[cody22]

Face masks will not be mandated for Ohio's retail customers, DeWine says

Ohio Virus News....moo

 

[tresir2012]

The idea that children if infected don't spread it much doesn't make sense to me. They are infected at the same rate as adults, but many infections probably go diagnosed because children in general show less symptoms. But if they are infected, I fail to see why they wouldn't spread it like everyone else.

"“If they are infected, there is no reason to believe that they will not transmit,” Malik Peiris, a professor of medical science at Hong Kong University who specializes in coronaviruses, told STAT, a news organization focused on health and medicine."
Here’s what we know about children, infection rates, and COVID-19

I thought they were more infectious than adults and that was the initial reason for them not being able to see the elderly vulnerable group. Now I don't know what to think, or why they are proposing to social distance kids in classrooms.

 

[musicaljoke]

No. Those could be your parents, grandparents, friends, or neighbors.

Indeed, or the medical workers, nurses, doctors, nursing home staff, store clerks, taxi drivers, First Responders, etc. It's atrocious that some leaders in our society have no consideration for human life.

 

[cody22]

Amazon, Instacart, Whole Foods, Walmart, Target, FedEx workers plan ‘May Day Strike’

National Virus News.....moo

 

[Inthedetails]

In Indiana some of our largest per capita outbreaks have been in rural counties.

And rural communities might not have the heath-care infrastructure to handle a large outbreak. The virus isn't a big-city virus.

jmo

 

[Inthedetails]

I was thinking about this yesterday. All these huge city centre office blocks are going to become a bit redundant I reckon. The big corporates have realised they do not need ALL their staff in ALL the time as most can work from home quite easily, and I doubt they'll require as much desk space ever again. I hope it brings about a shift in the way we work - could be very beneficial for parents trying to juggle working with school pick ups and childcare.

But... what to do with hundreds of massive, expensive, half empty office buildings?

I agree. Architecture is going to change.

jmo

 

[Tadpole12]

No. Those could be your parents, grandparents, friends, or neighbors.

I know.
Half of my family and friends, my neighbours are older and in the high risk group.

 

[IceIce9]

I know.
Half of my family and friends, my neighbours are older and in the high risk group.

Mine as well. And they are not “acceptable losses.”

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

Regarding the legal challenge I wanted to read a bit more about that so here is an additional link.

Supporters kept from entering Four Courts for hearing on Waters and O'Doherty case

A crowd gathered outside the Fourt Courts today for the hearing.
Image: TheJournal.ie
Supporters kept from entering Four Courts for hearing on Waters and O'Doherty case
There was a heavy garda presence today as the pair challenged the State over the Covid-19 restrictions.

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SUPPORTERS OF GEMMA O’Doherty and John Waters were not allowed into the Four Courts building today for a High Court action challenging the State over the introduction of Covid-19 restrictions.

With a heavy garda presence outside and around the Four Courts in Dublin, supporters were prevented from joining O’Doherty and Waters inside the building.

The two have launched a legal challenge against the State over its decision to implement emergency restrictions in response to the Covid-19 pandemic.

O’Doherty addressed the crowd before entering court today.

Gardaí blocked off the road onto Chancery Place after over 20 supporters of O’Doherty and Waters, one carrying a tricolour, gathered outside the Four Courts building at around 10.30am this morning.

Only O’Doherty, Waters and one other supporter were allowed to enter the small courtroom in the Four Courts complex following discussions with gardaí.

No social distancing to be seen there. Just a crowd of morons willing to put others health at risk for another couple of morons willing to put everyone at risk.
JMO

 

[Reasonable & Just]

Coronavirus & Chloroquine -- Woman Who Gave Her Husband Fish-Tank Cleaner is Under Investigation for Murder | National Review

National Virus Possible Crime News....moo

I always wondered about her. I don't know about this particular substance, but I know that alcohol affects women more than men, and I imagine other substances do, too. So I'm always a little wary when one spouse survives and the other doesn't, especially since poison is a popular MO for husband-killers.

 

[tresir2012]

Coronavirus: Switzerland says young children can hug grandparents

Well this looks like good news.

Swiss authorities say it is now safe for children under the age of 10 to hug their grandparents, in a revision to official advice on coronavirus.

The health ministry's infectious diseases chief Daniel Koch said scientists had concluded that young children did not transmit the virus.

However, he said such meetings should be brief and not involve babysitting.

Switzerland is one of several European countries beginning to ease their lockdown measures.

This week, garden centres and hairdressers have been allowed to open their doors. Schools and shops selling items other than food will be allowed to reopen in two weeks' time.

Dr Koch told a news conference this week that the original advice to keep distance between children and their grandparents was made when less was known about how the coronavirus was transmitted.

"Young children are not infected and do not transmit the virus," he said. "They just don't have the receptors to catch the disease."

So what does WHO say about this?

ETA I thought I would check Worldometers deaths per 1m population and these two are both next to each other on the numbers. See below.


Switzerland are worse than US but not a lot in it.
Switzerland 196
USA 179

 

[CoverMeCagney]

I thought they were more infectious than adults and that was the initial reason for them not being able to see the elderly vulnerable group. Now I don't know what to think, or why they are proposing to social distance kids in classrooms.

I was chatting to a hospital consultant the other day who works on paediatric wards. They were all geared up for a big influx of young patients and cleared a whole ward ready for virus cases, but on the day I spoke to her there were only 3 kids in there. A few others had been released or were back on general wards already.

In her professional opinion it is not children who are the problem in terms of both treatment/resources and spread of the disease, and she said she'd have no issue with her own children going back to school in a few weeks.

I think they will phase them in and have different year groups go in on different days. There's no way you can plonk 300 excited kids back in a primary school and expect social distancing to work effectively!

 

[cody22]

Mayor Cooper proposes property tax increase for Nashville

Nashville, Tn. Virus News....moo

 

[Tadpole12]

Coronavirus: Switzerland says young children can hug grandparents

Well this looks like good news.

Swiss authorities say it is now safe for children under the age of 10 to hug their grandparents, in a revision to official advice on coronavirus.

The health ministry's infectious diseases chief Daniel Koch said scientists had concluded that young children did not transmit the virus.

However, he said such meetings should be brief and not involve babysitting.

Switzerland is one of several European countries beginning to ease their lockdown measures.

This week, garden centres and hairdressers have been allowed to open their doors. Schools and shops selling items other than food will be allowed to reopen in two weeks' time.

Dr Koch told a news conference this week that the original advice to keep distance between children and their grandparents was made when less was known about how the coronavirus was transmitted.

"Young children are not infected and do not transmit the virus," he said. "They just don't have the receptors to catch the disease."

So what does WHO say about this?

That children "just don't have the receptors to catch the disease"?
Hmm?

 

[tresir2012]

I was chatting to a hospital consultant the other day who works on paediatric wards. They were all geared up for a big influx of young patients and cleared a whole ward ready for virus cases, but on the day I spoke to her there were only 3 kids in there. A few others had been released or were back on general wards already.

In her professional opinion it is not children who are the problem in terms of both treatment/resources and spread of the disease, and she said she'd have no issue with her own children going back to school in a few weeks.

I think they will phase them in and have different year groups go in on different days. There's no way you can plonk 300 excited kids back in a primary school and expect social distancing to work effectively!

The link I just posted by the Swiss head of infectious diseases looks like it backs up that convo you had. Will be interesting to see what the UK and US briefings come out with today.

 

[Sundog]

Coronavirus: Licking County nursing home staff living at work limiting spread

At noon on March 12, two Licking County assisted living facilities closed their doors to the outside world for the sake of the 225 vulnerable residents within.

They had been preparing for this day for three weeks, enlisting staff who would be willing to commit to 24-7 service for as long as the COVID-19 period of isolation would last; no one knew how long.

They still don’t.

But life on the inside of The Inn at Chapel Grove in Heath and The Inn at SharonBrooke in Newark continues largely in the way it did before, thanks to the 44 staff members who have agreed to live in their workplace — and will continue to be for the foreseeable future.

Nursing Home Workers Agree to Live On-Site to Protect Residents

Brouker and other fellow staff members are now living in these furnished campers outside the nursing home’s property 24/7.

“I got into healthcare for that reason to help others,” Brouker said.

Brouker says she’s keeping connected through phone calls and texts with her family.

“It’s about saving all senior homes this isn’t just about my home this is in a feel-good story we really need to change what we’re doing and we need to change it quick,” Belanger said.

Wow, that's impressive that they are staying in campers to protect the residents. They may be a national model of best practices for long term care homes during a pandemic or other medical outbreak if this actually works to lower death rate signficantly. I used to travel to Licking County for work, and Heath and Newark have strong community leadership in the medical field.

Edited to add: Licking County is in central Ohio, and the city of Heath, Ohio and the city of Newark, Ohio are adjacent to each other, both cities in Licking County.

 

[tresir2012]

No social distancing to be seen there. Just a crowd of morons willing to put others health at risk for another couple of morons willing to put everyone at risk.
JMO

ITA

 

[mickey2942]

The youngest don’t live in a vacuum. Many live with grandparents, or have parents who are in higher risk groups.

And it is easy to say that a lunch lady might need to find a less risky job but it isn’t always possible. Many bus drivers, teacher aides, and lunch servers are part time jobs held by semi-retired folks, at least in the area where I live. I don’t know that they could quickly secure other career options.

Ain't that the truth. I am about 5-10 years from retirement, and seriously, at my age, finding another job isn't going to be a piece of cake.

And, I have been hearing a lot of troubling whispers where I work about RIF. And also, from friends at two other completely different places.

If people have a job now, they better buckle down, and stay tight. We are in for a bumpy ride.

 

[cody22]

Mayor Bill de Blasio on Twitter

New York Virus News....moo

 

[tresir2012]

One employee spread Coronavirus to 40 residents. Employee at Illinois Nursing Home Infects 40 Patients with Coronavirus - At least 24 Dead

I am not surprised and wondered when this would begin to come out. The care homes must have caught it from somewhere and once the visitors were stopped then who else would they have caught it from but for the staff or the A/C IMO.