Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #52

[otto]

Morning Star. I make a breakfast casserole and my dad believes there’s sausage in it. If he realized it was fake he wouldn’t eat it. What he doesn’t know- ha ha!

Substitute with horse meat or wheat, probably a bit off for most.

 

[MyBelle]

What were the results for sick people making ice cream, like Typhoid Fever Mary?

Typhoid isn't a virus. I think Mary had a bacteria on her hands.

JMO

 

[Lilibet]

there's great meat substitutes now that might remind you of the taste or texture that you like
you are exactly the customer they're made for

I’m not even sure I’d miss the taste and texture that much once I got decent recipes (easy ones) figured out. I’m pretty happy with variations on beans and rice. And to keep this on topic for the mods the possibility of a meat shortage is what got me thinking initially, and the treatment of the animals and employees is what really got me thinking.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Substitute with horse meat or wheat, probably a bit off for most.

He probably would more readily eat horse meat than soy protein on principle if he knew. But he doesn’t and he loves it.

 

[katydid23]

Pity they didn't warp speed in January.

The patient from Washington with confirmed 2019-nCoV infection returned to the United States from Wuhan on January 15, 2020. The patient sought care at a medical facility in the state of Washington, where the patient was treated for the illness. Based on the patient’s travel history and symptoms, healthcare professionals suspected this new coronavirus. A clinical specimen was collected and sent to CDC overnight, where laboratory testing yesterday confirmed the diagnosis via CDC’s Real time Reverse Transcription-Polymerase Chain Reaction (rRT-PCR) test.

CDC has been proactively preparing for the introduction of 2019-nCoV in the United States for weeks, including:

• First alerting clinicians on January 8, 2020, to be on the look-out for patients with respiratory symptoms and a history of travel to Wuhan, China.
• Developing guidance for clinicians for testing and management of 2019-nCoV, as well as guidance for home care of patients with 2019-nCoV.
• Developing a diagnostic test to detect this virus in clinical specimens, accelerating the time it takes to detect infection. Currently, testing for this virus must take place at CDC, but in the coming days and weeks, CDC will share these tests with domestic and international partners
• On January 17, 2020, CDC began implementing public health entry screening at San Francisco (SFO), New York (JFK), and Los Angeles (LAX) airports. This week CDC will add entry health screening at two more airports – Atlanta (ATL) and Chicago (ORD).
• CDC has activated its Emergency Operations Center to better provide ongoing support to the 2019-nCoV response.

It looks like the CDC was seeing it as an upcoming battle, but I don't see that they wouldn't have been able to 'warp speed' a vaccine act that point yet.

 

[Lilibet]

Here are the ingredients of the current popular meat substitutes. I was an "ethical" vegetarian for years when it wasn't nearly as easy to be one, and even I hesitate to eat these substitutes.

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The Impossible Burger contains:

Water, Soy Protein Concentrate, Coconut Oil, Sunflower Oil, Natural Flavors, 2% or less of: Potato Protein, Methylcellulose, Yeast Extract, Cultured Dextrose, Food Starch Modified, Soy Leghemoglobin, Salt, Soy Protein Isolate, Mixed Tocopherols (Vitamin E), Zinc Gluconate, Thiamine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B1), Sodium Ascorbate (Vitamin C), Niacin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Riboflavin (Vitamin B2), Vitamin B12.

ust like the Impossible Burger, the Beyond Burger has a long list of ingredients. It contains:

Water, Pea Protein Isolate, Expeller-Pressed Canola Oil, Refined Coconut Oil, Contains 2% or less of the following: Cellulose from Bamboo, Methylcellulose, Potato Starch, Natural Flavor, Maltodextrin, Yeast Extract, Salt, Sunflower Oil, Vegetable Glycerin, Dried Yeast, Gum Arabic, Citrus Extract (to protect quality), Ascorbic Acid (to maintain color), Beet Juice Extract (for color), Acetic Acid, Succinic Acid, Modified Food Starch, Annatto (for color).


Impossible Burger vs. Beyond Meat Burger: Taste, ingredients and availability, compared

BBM

Thanks. Long lists of ingredients are kind of off-putting in any processed food. But I’m chuckling about the “cellulose from bamboo”...thinking of pandas.

 

[LadyL]

yes I'm aware of what's in some of them
not worse than what's fed to farm animals and what they are treated with
these meat substitutes are considered vegan junk food so many use sparingly and focus on beans, rice, potatoes, vegis

Here are the ingredients of the current popular meat substitutes. I was an "ethical" vegetarian for years when it wasn't nearly as easy to be one, and even I hesitate to eat these substitutes.

___

The Impossible Burger contains:

Water, Soy Protein Concentrate, Coconut Oil, Sunflower Oil, Natural Flavors, 2% or less of: Potato Protein, Methylcellulose, Yeast Extract, Cultured Dextrose, Food Starch Modified, Soy Leghemoglobin, Salt, Soy Protein Isolate, Mixed Tocopherols (Vitamin E), Zinc Gluconate, Thiamine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B1), Sodium Ascorbate (Vitamin C), Niacin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Riboflavin (Vitamin B2), Vitamin B12.

ust like the Impossible Burger, the Beyond Burger has a long list of ingredients. It contains:

Water, Pea Protein Isolate, Expeller-Pressed Canola Oil, Refined Coconut Oil, Contains 2% or less of the following: Cellulose from Bamboo, Methylcellulose, Potato Starch, Natural Flavor, Maltodextrin, Yeast Extract, Salt, Sunflower Oil, Vegetable Glycerin, Dried Yeast, Gum Arabic, Citrus Extract (to protect quality), Ascorbic Acid (to maintain color), Beet Juice Extract (for color), Acetic Acid, Succinic Acid, Modified Food Starch, Annatto (for color).


Impossible Burger vs. Beyond Meat Burger: Taste, ingredients and availability, compared

 

[LadyL]

I’m not even sure I’d miss the taste and texture that much once I got decent recipes (easy ones) figured out. I’m pretty happy with variations on beans and rice. And to keep this on topic for the mods the possibility of a meat shortage is what got me thinking initially, and the treatment of the animals and employees is what really got me thinking.

Morning Star. I make a breakfast casserole and my dad believes there’s sausage in it. If he realized it was fake he wouldn’t eat it. What he doesn’t know- ha ha!

I think if we are under a strick diet for protien we might be fine. Nuts, berries and seed people! Nuts berries and seeds. Make sure they are safe if not purchased locally jmo

Beans and rice too, pomegranate juice, tomatoes, oranges, apples, food too.

these posts make me very very happy

 

[otto]

He probably would more readily eat horse meat than soy protein on principle if he knew. But he doesn’t and he loves it.

Most people know the difference between wheat and beef based products. Regardless of age, everyone knows the juicy fat on a slab of beef that cannot be replicated with wheat.

Signal that the substitute is okay, but to suggest that people don't know the difference - nope.

 

[Curious Me]

Young, vibrant, and a dedicated Doctor and then Covid-19 changed everything. Heartbreaking.

Sister believes NY ER doctor's brain 'altered' by coronavirus: report

“I kept telling my sister, you know, ‘You can’t — if you can’t function, you can’t help anybody. You have to sleep. You have to rest.’ And she just didn’t want to give up,” said Feist.

She would not give up. She would not let it break her, which, of course, it did.”

 

[MyBelle]

She could probably use the ratings. I wonder if she's paid her staff yet.Ellen DeGeneres' crew left in the dark about pay for a month amid the coronavirus shutdown: report

Ellen is coming across as tone deaf. She's broadcasting from her million dollar mansion and has compared it to a prison. It's not very funny.
JMO

 

[Sundog]

BBM

Thanks. Long lists of ingredients are kind of off-putting in any processed food. But I’m chuckling about the “cellulose from bamboo”...thinking of pandas.

Bamboo has lots of fiber and potassium. Good for people, too.

 

[firebird]

BBM

Thanks. Long lists of ingredients are kind of off-putting in any processed food. But I’m chuckling about the “cellulose from bamboo”...thinking of pandas.

I eat almost no processed food. An interesting observation is that the produce section of my local supermarket has been virtually unchanged this entire time, whilst the processed, canned, frozen food has been wiped out -- including the frozen "vegan" meat substitutes.

Eta: Not as a "statement," just as a personal preference

 

[firebird]

Bamboo has lots of fiber and potassium. Good for people, too.

I'd conjecture not by the time the processing has been completed. jmo

 

[Curious Me]

This was also reported on the news. So far, all LE received a bulletin from California Gov. Newsom, but a formal announcement will be made tomorrow. Some beach locations were fine, but some did not show any consideration and ruined it for all. I know there are people either thinking they are special and won't get it, or they don't believe how easy this Coronavirus Covid-19 spreads. Anybody watching the news should know this virus spreads and kills some people. Is sitting on the beach close together that important?

Memo Says California Governor Will Order All Beaches Closed

"Gov. Gavin Newsom will order all beaches and state parks closed Friday after tens of thousands of people flocked to the seashore last weekend during a heat wave despite his stay-at-home order, according to a memo sent Wednesday evening to police chiefs around the state."

 

[slowpoke]

Sorry if this has already been posted. I can’t keep up with this thread!

When I first read this update, I thought it was only for those living within L.A. the city, but in rereading I see it is for all who reside in all of L.A. County. (L.A. is a city within L.A. county).That’s a huge difference.

L.A. City has a population of about 4 million, whereas L.A. County holds about 10 million people.

And it is for anyone, symptoms or not.

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Mayor Garcetti announced today that L.A. will be the first big city in America to offer wide-scale, free COVID-19 testing to all residents, whether or not they are experiencing symptoms of the virus. The testing will be open to any resident of Los Angeles County, with tests administered at eight locations inside the City of Los Angeles.

Updates | COVID-19: Keeping Los Angeles Safe

 

[firebird]

Sorry if this has already been posted. I can’t keep up with this thread!

When I first read this update, I thought it was only for those living within L.A. the city, but in rereading I see it is for all who reside in all of L.A. County. (L.A. is a city within L.A. county).That’s a huge difference.

L.A. City has a population of about 4 million, whereas L.A. County holds about 10 million people.

And it is for anyone, symptoms or not.

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Updates | COVID-19: Keeping Los Angeles Safe

I love it when they say "free," as though no one's paying for it.

 

[cass523]

6-month-old survived COVID-19 after having open-heart surgery

A 6-month-old girl got a guard of honor from health care workers at Alder Hey Children’s Hospital in Liverpool, England, after defeating COVID-19 following open heart surgery.

Emma and Wayne Bates had their “miracle child” Erin on Oct. 8, 2019, after trying to have a baby for 10 years. One month later, they were heartbroken to learn that Erin was born with a heart condition called Tetralogy of Fallot. Their daughter went into the hospital for open-heart surgery in December and has been recovering there since the operation.

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6-month-old heart surgery patient gets guard of honor from hospital staff after beating COVID-19

 

[otto]

I love it when they say "free," as though no one's paying for it.

Hopefully the country is able to pay for virus testing in their own country. Russia has quite a problem today with the virus. Should they pay for it?

 

[Curious Me]

I know I heard beer sales were up, up, up. People are drinking more while in quarantine, and yet …

Grocery-store beer sales are up. For some breweries that's bad news.

"Closed bars and taprooms have dried up sales for thousands of brewing companies even as supermarket sales soar."

How The COVID-19 Pandemic Is Upending The Alcoholic Beverage Industry

"Alcoholic beverage sales have spiked significantly, but the impact has been uneven. Some producers have seen their sales soar, while others have seen them decimated."

'More Zoom Parties, More Alcohol Consumption': Hard Seltzer, Tequila Sales Boom During COVID-19 Lockdown

‘More Zoom Parties, More Alcohol Consumption’: Hard Seltzer, Tequila Sales Boom During COVID-19 Lockdown