Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #55

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It is interesting to see your relaxed restrictions. Any masks on the coffee drinkers?
(ETA by the look of the pic no)

No masks here (except for the occasional person here and there).
Our Prime Minister has said 'no masks, if you are well'.

"The Prime Minister and Australia's top doctor say Australians don't need to wear facemasks."
Australians should not wear facemasks, say top doctor and Prime Minister,


It might be different if we were not locked down so tightly, and with such a relatively low amount of infections. It also might be different when we re-open our international borders. Masks may be required then. I understand completely why so many are wearing masks in many countries.

(Currently we social-distance, cough into our elbows, sanitise our hands regularly, try not to touch our faces, don't shake hands, use the provided wipes to wipe down store handles, use the provided sanitiser as we enter/leave stores ........ )
 
  • #1,062
I went to the dollar store. I bet there were 20 people in there. ONE person was wearing a mask. Guess who?
thanks for the little giggle first thing this morning!!
 
  • #1,063
So can someone previously asymptomatic become contagious and what makes that happen?

ETA I want to say chicken dinners but will refrain from that. :)

obviously the million dollar question... we are going to have to learn form China and South Korea I believe..
 
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I think that the government was negligent in not advising people to wear masks when the infection was discovered initially in the United States. So people didn't think it was a big deal not to wear one. Then they tell us to wear a mask. We know why they told us not to wear masks (cause they didn't want people to take away masks from hospital workers), but that was clearly the wrong advice and in some ways is unforgivable.
What I am finding so surreal...is that people were wearing masks a lot 3-4 weeks ago, but now hardly anyone. As if this is over. The leaders have made a huge mistake by always being mask-less. This is a very bad message.
 
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Thanks. I watch the local news and read the local paper. I also keep up with all areas of my state and other states. We have had 25 deaths in our parish. I have a vast view of the city from my 8th floor windows and there's quite a lot of traffic even at night. It just doesn't seem like people are staying home.

Thanks for the link. I will save it.
Yes it is a great site... enough information to last a lifetime!!!
and oh..by the way... there are a lot of us from around the world who live on our own during this... websleuths is such a great place to congregate!! Virtual party all the time. Well maybe, virtual classroom is better. But virtual party is more fun.
 
  • #1,066
I'm in regional New South Wales, Australia and have been self isolating.
Today I made a rare trip to Aldi and noticed a man who seemed to have a really bad cold or I hope that's all it was. He was openly coughing all over the place!!
I tried to avoid him and waited til he left the aisle and went in to quickly get what I needed. But suddenly he was right in front of me and there were people behind me. He had me trapped on the side, I had nowhere to go :(
I tried to get past him and he sort of waved me away because he seemed to think I was in his way. Good heavens!
I did the usual, not touch my face, washed my hands when I got home and sanitised everything including my handbag, keys, doorknobs and everything I bought.
That man did not look well at all, grrr.
On the plus side, we haven't had any deaths in our town, only 1 active case left with that person in isolation, but you can't help but worry with people like that wandering around coughing all over everything.
 
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    • order council chief warns of 'interesting times'
      Monmouthshire council chief executive Paul Matthews says interesting times lay ahead with lockdown restrictions in Wales differing to those across the border.

      The prime minister said yesterday that those who could not work from home should be "actively encouraged to go to work" in England.

      The message in Wales is still very much to stay at home, and Mr Matthews has already received messages from confused commuters who live near the border.

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      No dates for restrictions ending in Wales
      The man charged with Wales' recovery from the coronavirus pandemic has refused to set out a timeframe on when lockdown will be lifted.

      Counsel General Jeremy Miles said while it was "important to give people a sense of the direction of travel”, he would not commit the Welsh Government to producing a roadmap outlining phased changes to the lockdown restrictions.

      The Welsh Government has already set out a so-called "traffic light" framework to ending lockdown, which is based on a serious of questions which must be answered before restrictions can be gradually eased.

      Speaking on BBC Radio Wales Breakfast with Claire Summers, Mr Miles said: “When the lockdown is lifted it will not be immediate, it will be gradual, and in the initial stages, it may not feel very different from the restrictions that we are living under now.

      “But it's very important that that is the way that it happens so that we can continue to monitor and keep the spread of the virus under control, which is everyone's top priority.”

      Mr Miles said work was “under way” to reintroduce some non-Covid-19 NHS procedures and getting more people to travel on public transport.

      He also said Education Minister Kirsty Williams will publish a document “in the coming days” explaining the next steps for the phased return to schools.

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Coronavirus in Wales: Motorists told to stay away - BBC News

Confusion on the Welsh/English border today.
 
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The Swedish statistics agency have presented the numbers of deaths for the first four months of 2020. Week 15 (April 6 - 12) was the week we had the highest number of deaths this century, 2,554 cases. There has been a higher number of deaths compared to the "normal" death rate for the years 2015 - 2019 during the first 18 weeks, but not in all Regions, in 11 the numbers have been higher, but in 9 they have been lower compared to earlier years. In my Region we have had 58 fewer deaths, and also the Regions to the west, and north of us have had fewer deaths. It shows that it is possible to prevent the spread of infectious diseases when using the "basic hygiene routines" correctly, as my guess is that one reason for a lesser death rate is because older people didn't got the flu when being shielded from the corona virus.
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Nearly All Patients Hospitalized With Covid-19 Had Chronic Health Issues, Study Finds

This link is about the study of 5700 NY patients and the high percentage with pre existing conditions.

Here is the link to the actually study results referred to in the article.

Presenting Characteristics, Comorbidities, and Outcomes Among 5700 Patients Hospitalized With COVID-19 in the New York City Area - PubMed

From the report - see below

Results:
A total of 5700 patients were included (median age, 63 years [interquartile range {IQR}, 52-75; range, 0-107 years]; 39.7% female). The most common comorbidities were hypertension (3026; 56.6%), obesity (1737; 41.7%), and diabetes (1808; 33.8%). At triage, 30.7% of patients were febrile, 17.3% had a respiratory rate greater than 24 breaths/minute, and 27.8% received supplemental oxygen. The rate of respiratory virus co-infection was 2.1%. Outcomes were assessed for 2634 patients who were discharged or had died at the study end point. During hospitalization, 373 patients (14.2%) (median age, 68 years [IQR, 56-78]; 33.5% female) were treated in the intensive care unit care, 320 (12.2%) received invasive mechanical ventilation, 81 (3.2%) were treated with kidney replacement therapy, and 553 (21%) died. Mortality for those requiring mechanical ventilation was 88.1%. The median postdischarge follow-up time was 4.4 days (IQR, 2.2-9.3). A total of 45 patients (2.2%) were readmitted during the study period. The median time to readmission was 3 days (IQR, 1.0-4.5) for readmitted patients. Among the 3066 patients who remained hospitalized at the final study follow-up date (median age, 65 years [IQR, 54-75]), the median follow-up at time of censoring was 4.5 days (IQR, 2.4-8.1).

Conclusions and relevance: This case series provides characteristics and early outcomes of sequentially hospitalized patients with confirmed COVID-19 in the New York City area.
 
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This is a scientific fact: COVID-19 is a highly contagious virus sweeping our planet - spreading when people get too close and sneeze, cough and breathe near or on each other.

I agree a valid reason not to wear a mask is due to a medical condition. This seems to be a no-brainer. Short of this, to cover our mouths and noses with a mask while in public and close to other people doesn’t seem like a big deal. Wearing one is not going to kill us, but not wearing one just might. Or it might kill someone else. To risk our lives or the lives of others by refusing to take this simple painless step is reckless. I understand the controversial issues - balking at government mandates or political stance may cloud the intent of the message - a proactive serious attempt to keep people safe and accelerate our long journey to economic recovery. Wearing a mask is a very small price to pay for a chance at not dying or causing the death of someone else. I admit, I’m a bit of a stubborn rebel. I don’t like being told what to do. But...I am not stupid. I might whine a bit. I will still wear the mask! moo
 
  • #1,071
Not sure how it is in outlying areas, but yes, we have done well. A good governor (can't believe I'm writing this about Charlie!) and elected officials who care. Leadership makes a huge difference. It's everything in a crisis, just like in a battle. My degree is in military history and I know this! lol.
These were my thoughts day one.... this is a battle and we should have put military logistics experts in charge of the PPE and distribution. I believe this would have helped in all the initial chaos. I feel if health care workers had known they were getting this type of support, they would have been able to have more confidence in this horrific war. At least Cuomo is constantly rewarding these health care soldiers....but I believe there is going to be horrendous PTSD issues in the future. We owe our lives to these people.
 
  • #1,072
Yesterday was my first day of full mask wearing for 8 hours. I couldn't stand it. It was hot, suffocating, my glasses fogged up, I poked my eye when taking the mask off. My chin was sweaty. I felt like the mask was soggy after 30 minutes.

Day One, of the rest of my life.

I am committed to learning how to make masks now. To be able to change more frequently. And find one I like better.

I have ordered one of these silicone masks... it just appears to have more breathability.... but not sure, yet. I love the handmade cloth masks that my friends make...but I breath much better in the blue surgical masks... but we'll see about this one...

Reusable Silicone Face Masks : silicone face mask
 
  • #1,073
So far our government have not advised the public to wear masks, not even on public transport. Till they do, I will make up my own mind, which is what they want us to do. We have been advised that outdoors, the risk is much less. At home too the risk is much less so it seems that public indoor spaces are where there will be most risk IMO. The shops I frequent have really done well with their procedures so at present I and most others in those shops including the staff are not wearing masks. Social distancing is currently having the desired effect. I do expect masks could be mandated for public transport, once more people head back to work. AJMO.
 
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The Swedish statistics agency have presented the numbers of deaths for the first four months of 2020. Week 15 (April 6 - 12) was the week we had the highest number of deaths this century, 2,554 cases. There has been a higher number of deaths compared to the "normal" death rate for the years 2015 - 2019 during the first 18 weeks, but not in all Regions, in 11 the numbers have been higher, but in 9 they have been lower compared to earlier years. In my Region we have had 58 fewer deaths, and also the Regions to the west, and north of us have had fewer deaths. It shows that it is possible to prevent the spread of infectious diseases when using the "basic hygiene routines" correctly, as my guess is that one reason for a lesser death rate is because older people didn't got the flu when being shielded from the corona virus.
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Thank you for this info, it is really interesting. Hope you are feeling better.
 
  • #1,075
I was told to isolate from my pet, as well as my human family, after I had my COVID-19 test last week.
Our dog park closed, when FL announced non-essential closings. However our Doggy Daycare is considered essential, because so many essential workers take their pets there. So many dogs, and a wonderful place. We have all felt we are ok, and workers and customers all wear masks. This newer information is so scary to me.
 
  • #1,076
Our dog park closed, when FL announced non-essential closings. However our Doggy Daycare is considered essential, because so many essential workers take their pets there. So many dogs, and a wonderful place. We have all felt we are ok, and workers and customers all wear masks. This newer information is so scary to me.
So far not many cases of animals getting infected. At least known cases. One officially infected pug in the US was licking food of his owners plates. But just in case, don't let these dogs lick your face.
Cats, Dogs and COVID: How Safe Are Your Pets?
 
  • #1,077
It does seem that maybe virus doesn't like the warm weather. Not that it can't be transmitted in warm weather, but it's a little bit less infectious.
“For every increase in heat of 1 degree Celsius (the equivalent of 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit), we are seeing about 2% decline in transmission,” public-health expert Ali Mokdad, the chief strategy officer for population health at the University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, told ABC News. “We find this relationship in our data and possibly it would be more when the weather warms up this month.”
Does warmer weather slow coronavirus?
 
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Thank you for this info, it is really interesting. Hope you are feeling better.
I so value your links @tresir2012, and @FrostOwls as well... Sweden is just such a test ground, and I still feel that the comparisons with the US and UK are the most similar....
 
  • #1,080
Yes, some children have CV and some do not. From the last article I posted:

"The 14-year-old, Jack McMorrow, "He was rushed to the ICU and tested positive for COVID-19. John McMorrow is his father."

Some of the other children I post over the last week also tested positive

Kawasaki Disease From COVID-19 in Kids: How Common?

The first known published case of classic Kawasaki disease associated with COVID-19 was reported in Hospital Pediatrics in late April. A 6-month-old seen in Stanford, California, screened positive for COVID-19 after presenting with fever, blotchy rash, and minimal respiratory symptoms. She had initially been sent home from urgent care.

This week, the New York City Health Department announced finding 15 cases between April 29 and May 3. The "full spectrum of disease is not yet known," it noted. "Only severe cases may have been recognized at this time."

On Wednesday, the New York State Department of Health expanded that to 64 cases statewide and issued an advisory on what is being called "Pediatric Multi-System Inflammatory Syndrome Temporally Associated with COVID-19."

Two children are now known to have died in New York with the syndrome, a 5-year-old boy and a 7-year-old boy.

Italy, Spain, and the U.K. have noted an uptick in Kawasaki-like disease among children coincident with the COVID-19 outbreaks there.

British health authorities warned about a small rise in children with severe COVID-19 and features consistent with toxic shock syndrome and atypical Kawasaki disease. "Abdominal pain and gastrointestinal symptoms have been a common feature as has cardiac inflammation."

Even under normal circumstances, it can be difficult to sort out Kawasaki disease from other childhood diseases that cause similar symptoms given that there are no definitive blood tests, noted Michael Portman, MD, of Seattle Children's Hospital and a member of the American College of Cardiology committee that set benchmarks for care of Kawasaki disease.

"What's really unusual about this particular presentation is that they are older," noted Deepika Thacker, MD, medical director for the cardiac inpatient unit at Nemours Children's Health System in Wilmington, Delaware. Kawasaki disease typically affects children age 5 years and younger, but many of these cases reported have been in teens, she pointed out.

In the NYC health department report, the 15 cases in children ages 2 to 15 years were hospitalized with typical or incomplete Kawasaki disease, some with shock. All had fever and more than half had rash, abdominal pain, vomiting, or diarrhea. However, less than half have had respiratory symptoms.

Some cases have even been described where severe abdominal pain sent these children to surgery but nothing was found, Thacker noted in an interview monitored by her institution's media relations. Bloodwork has also been following a "very different pattern," she said, including markers of cardiac injury higher than typically seen with Kawasaki disease.

"Whilst it is too early to say with confidence, features appear to include high CRP [C-reactive protein], high ESR [erythrocyte sedimentation rate] and high ferritin," Britain's Pediatric Intensive Care Society said in a statement.

The New York state alert also pointed to myocarditis and other cardiovascular changes that may be seen. "Additionally, some patients have developed cardiogenic or vasogenic shock and required intensive care. This inflammatory syndrome may occur days to weeks after acute COVID-19 illness."

Missed Cases

While most children who develop Kawasaki disease recover without incident, "there's still that 25% out there that if they get late treatment, they could have serious illnesses. And some of those children, the fever goes away and they're walking around with a coronary artery aneurysm and they don't even know it," Portman noted.

(and the article continues to this info)

One community-based study is the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID)'s 6,000-person HEROS study looking into the rate of SARS-CoV-2 infection in U.S. children and their family members, which collects nasal swab and blood samples from participants every 2 weeks.

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/86393

The Heros Study

Study to determine incidence of novel coronavirus infection in U.S. children begins

NIH-funded study also will ascertain percentage of infected children who develop COVID-19.

The study, called Human Epidemiology and Response to SARS-CoV-2 (HEROS), also will help determine what percentage of children infected with SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, develop symptoms of the disease. In addition, the HEROS study will examine whether rates of SARS-CoV-2 infection differ between children who have asthma or other allergic conditions and children who do not. The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health, is sponsoring and funding the HEROS study.

“One interesting feature of this novel coronavirus pandemic is that very few children have become sick with COVID-19 compared to adults,” said NIAID Director Anthony S. Fauci, M.D. “Is this because children are resistant to infection with SARS-CoV-2, or because they are infected but do not develop symptoms? The HEROS study will help us begin to answer these and other key questions.”

“So far, data on the extent of SARS-CoV-2 infection in the U.S. population have been limited to people who physically interact with the healthcare system: those who are tested―especially those who test positive―and those with severe disease,” said Dr. Hartert. “These data provide real-time guidance in a setting of limited test availability, but they don’t enable us to understand the full extent of SARS-CoV-2 infection in the entire population. The HEROS study will help fill this knowledge gap and inform public health interventions.”

Preliminary evidence suggests that having an allergic condition paradoxically may reduce a person’s susceptibility to SARS-CoV-2 infection and severe COVID-19 disease. A NIAID-funded study(link is external) recently examined upper and lower airway cells for the expression of ACE2, the gene that codes for the receptor that the coronavirus uses to infect cells. ACE2 expression is necessary for a cell to make this receptor, but additional steps also are involved. In both children and adults, respiratory allergy, asthma and controlled allergen exposure were associated with significantly reduced ACE2 expression. The expression of ACE2 was lowest in people with high levels of both asthma and sensitivity to allergens.

The HEROS study will further clarify whether reduced ACE2 gene expression in airway cells of children with allergic diseases correlates with a lower rate of SARS-CoV-2 infection and COVID-19.

Study to determine incidence of novel coronavirus infection in U.S. children begins

Researchers remain uncertain if this is being caused by COVID-19, but most children appear to have a link. Some affected children have tested positive for coronavirus antibodies, suggesting that the inflammation is "delayed," Nancy Fliesler of Boston Children's Hospital wrote on Friday.

Doctors have described children "screaming from stomach pain" while hospitalized for shock, Jane Newburger of Boston Children's Hospital told the Washington Post.

More information is trickling in from various places.

As some children go into inflammatory shock, doctors urgently study COVID-19 in kids

--Why are children largely spared from COVID-19 — and why do a tiny handful become extremely sick? To find out, Boston Children’s Hospital has launched a national study to perform real-time surveillance at more than 35 U.S. children’s hospitals.

Called Overcoming COVID-19, the study has $2.1 million in funding from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. It will capture real-time data on 800 children and youth up to age 25 hospitalized with COVID-19, in search of factors that increase vulnerability to the novel coronavirus — but also what protects the vast majority of kids.

National study tracks COVID-19 in children - Boston Children's Discoveries

Lines up with a recent Dr. Seheult video where he stated COVID19 is an epithelial disease that enters the body through the lungs.............
 
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